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brycejones

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I use the word Leftist instead of Liberal because the modern political left is very far from liberal in any accurate sense of the word, specifically and most notably in intolerance of differing opinions.

Please do stick around and share with us some more about that (probably in a different thread). Some of your best pals here would be Starbuck1975 and Uglycassanova if you're intent on somewhat civil discussion but very concerned about just about everything. Ijtssg or slowspyder would be you picks if you're interested in just trolling.
 
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It's pretty funny to hear the trumpets do this for the 8th or 9th time, this declaration of vindication even though they don't know what they're talking about, let alone even seen what they're talking about.

Meanwhile, Il Douche has been uncharacteristically silent. Strange for such an unhinged braggart with no shame to do, what with him usually being the first to completely miss what's going on and declare victory. It's almost like there's a team of lawyers translating reality to him with as few syllables as possible. Feels like 'You're still fucked' probably got through.

I was hoping for “You’re fired!!”. But “you’re still fucked” will do.
 

Vic

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I use the word Leftist instead of Liberal because the modern political left is very far from liberal in any accurate sense of the word, specifically and most notably in intolerance of differing opinions.

And how tolerant are today's conservatives of differing opinions? Yaknow, when they're not claiming that liberal speech is treasonous or seditious, or calling liberalism a mental disorder, etc?

And just FYI, it's not an intolerance of a differing opinion to speak back. It's not an infringement of your free speech to refuse to listen quietly.
 

Stryke1983

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I use the word Leftist instead of Liberal because the modern political left is very far from liberal in any accurate sense of the word, specifically and most notably in intolerance of differing opinions.
You're confusing intolerance of lies, nonsense and bigotry (which basically sums up the current administration and it's supporters) with intolerance of a differing opinion.

Your very first post in here was reposting a tweet full of nonsense about the investigation.

Your second was was accusing someone of being a conspiracy theorist even though they brought up the valid point that if the investigation was a waste of time then why have multiple people been jailed over it. Not to mention the written and verbal evidence of all those members of the campaign and administration having contacts with Russian contacts that they initially denied.

Your third was asking for proof of something that various members of the Trump campaign/administration already admitted (willingly or not). The issue appears to be proving intent, not that the contacts happened. And that's before the general lying, corruption and obstruction of justice that occured before and during the investigation that is enough to warrant punishment on it's own.

Which means that so far all you've contributed to the forum is some lies, ignorance and a complete unwillingness to listen or look at the facts. You then got butthurt when people were pointing out the stupidity in your posts. So you'll really need to improve the quality of your arguments before you earn any respect, which, before you claim you don't care about it, you obviously want as you keep complaining.
 

Starbuck1975

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Please do stick around and share with us some more about that (probably in a different thread). Some of your best pals here would be Starbuck1975 and Uglycassanova if you're intent on somewhat civil discussion but very concerned about just about everything. Ijtssg or slowspyder would be you picks if you're interested in just trolling.
It is clearly a troll account and yet some of you insist on engaging. I doubt its even a conservative that you’re sparring with. Not very bright.

Oh, and when I want civil discussion, I engage the liberals on the forum who have something interesting to say.
 

brycejones

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It is clearly a troll account and yet some of you insist on engaging. I doubt its even a conservative that you’re sparring with. Not very bright.

Oh, and when I want civil discussion, I engage the liberals on the forum who have something interesting to say.
You won’t be dbr1’s friend talking about him like that.
 

ivwshane

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I guess we will be waiting for Mueller's testimony in front of Congress as opposed to this Republican friendly report.
 

K1052

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We haven't even seen the report, just Barr's take on it.

Yes, the guy who said the president could never actually obstruct justice because he’s the president before he became AG. Congress is going to, rightly, have a lot of questions.
 

dank69

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I use the word Leftist instead of Liberal because the modern political left is very far from liberal in any accurate sense of the word, specifically and most notably in intolerance of differing opinions.

And how tolerant are today's conservatives of differing opinions? Yaknow, when they're not claiming that liberal speech is treasonous or seditious, or calling liberalism a mental disorder, etc?

And just FYI, it's not an intolerance of a differing opinion to speak back. It's not an infringement of your free speech to refuse to listen quietly.
It's also an intolerance for differing opinions that were based on misinformation. I can see how to someone that is incapable of figuring out what is or is not misinformation it would seem random.
 

Maxima1

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Yes, the guy who said the president could never actually obstruct justice because he’s the president before he became AG. Congress is going to, rightly, have a lot of questions.

But Barr also put Rosenstein's name behind it, so unless he's lying, Rosenstein also agreed to no obstruction.
 

ivwshane

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So has trump tweeted about this latest report? I haven't seen or heard anyone post anything from him and I would think that if a report came out that said no collusion that trump would be tweeting up a shit storm.

If he hasn't responded then I think there is a lot more to come.

I would also like to resubmit my original take on this whole thing back in April 2017.

I haven't read the entire thread so I'd be interested if anyone else came to the same conclusion.

I think the trump/Russian connection is coming into focus. It appears that the Russians had intended to wage a propaganda war on the US in order to elect a president who would give better treatment to Russia.
My guess is that, besides the social media propaganda that was used, the Russians managed to gain the confidence of several US figures who all happen to be associated with or became associated with the trump campaign. It doesn't appear, at least for everyone they managed to use, that anyone was knowingly trying to act against the country. Instead it appears that these key trump insiders were nothing more than useful idiots (Carter page seems to recognize this, hence his willingness to speak in public about it but unwillingness
to say much, plus, known transcripts between spies say about as much). It appears they all fed information to trump to buy into pro Russian policies.
So it appears trump was the mark, which according to a lot of people, was because he apparently takes the opinion of the people who spoke to him last. Having been surrounded by Russian useful idiots, trump was bombarded with pro Russian policies, of which he adopted.
It also appears that the Russians, close to the election, thought Hillary was going to win, and decided to hedge their bets and start spreading propaganda pushing voter fraud in order to delegitimize hillarys presidency had she won. Again, trump parroted this talking point.

Of course when trump was told about the Russians interfering in the election he denied it and instead felt the intelligence community was biased/corrupt. My guess is that this information (Russian involvement) was given to the candidates prior to one of the debates which is why Hillary called trump a puppet and trump flew off the handle.

When trump won the presidency the IC, again tried to tell trump of the Russian involvement in the election and again trump attacked the IC and denied it. Accepting it would have meant his presidency would be in question and that's not something trump could ever admit.


In summary, Russia found some useful idiots too plant pro Russian policies into a puppet.


As far as where this goes? I think, if legit investigations continue, we will find out who these useful idiots are but no charges will be brought because they were unknowingly aiding Russia. Trump will probably lash out, either at the intelligence agencies or at Russia.
As it stands now, the damage is done and the pro Russian policies are still in.
 
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zinfamous

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Well, Rosenstein made the determination with Barr on the obstruction side of it. it's improper of Rosenstein because of that letter he signed, and the decision is a pile of excrement for anyone with a lick of sense. Don't know about Mueller. We need to get the actual report.

I agree with the Rosenstein/possibly Barr side of it...but calling out Mueller specifically. I find that odd, especially from Vic, who has championed the dude all along. Makes no sense. I blame booze.
 

zinfamous

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Regardless whether or not it arises to provable beyond a reasonable doubt or a crime that's prosecutable, he's a piece of crap that has no business being president. Shee-it, this doesn't even include the daily impeachable shit he does.



Who cares?

Reagan did the same with Iran to win in 1980, and to this day, Republicans self-flagellate themselves every night at their home shrines to Reagan, just to be able to sleep.

Every fucking night.

This type of endorsed treason is absolutely required for a proper GOP leader.
 
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zinfamous

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What is that even supposed to mean? That I am a Russian who hacked someone's account here to post propaganda?

And someone here is saying that Leftists are the more rational ones on the political spectrum.:rolleyes:

заткнись и пей свою водку
 

zinfamous

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I do not believe I am a fucktard, but you in fact may be a coc.ksucker.

See how much fun is it to play on this edgy forum where Leftists get to call you any obscene name they want?

you're allowed to call anyone on P&N any obscene name that you want--as long as you are at least clever and/or reasonable with it, motherfucker.
 

K1052

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But Barr also put Rosenstein's name behind it, so unless he's lying, Rosenstein also agreed to no obstruction.

If the AG would not back an obstruction charge or at least a finding then there Rod's options are to resign and tell everybody or be the political animal that he is and survive. I mean he wrote the original Comey firing memos so the answer on that last part is relatively apparent and he seems to have again made some sort of peace with Trump. It's not exactly the first time that political appointees in the DOJ would have agreed to sweep nefarious doings by the executive branch under the rug.
 
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I don't give a damn what that report says. Donald Trump is a lying sack of excrement and a crook! That is all America needs to know. Do us a favor Justice Department - JAIL HIM NOW. There are 9 offenses that are impeacheable. Finding collusion is not the sole reason to charge him. Relax people - this rodeo show is not over yet. There are active ongoing investigations. The Trump propaganda machine can tamp down. The country is past divided. The end...

I Don't care what the facts are *Frothing at the mouth* I DEMAND he be jailed because reasons.

God you stupid millennials are entitled brats.

You will get nothing of any substance that is suitable for impeachment. Keep making these stupid embarrassing scenes of yourselves and you might just enjoy another 4 years of the orange retard.

Like I said, he is going to use this 2 year investigation as ammo for his re-election