Special Counsel Mueller has submitted his report to Attorney General Barr

[zinfamous]

The lock step democrat Nazis in here just cant accept it. its quite funny.

"Sure, I may support the party of actual Nazis, but if I call the other party Nazis, that will be a win!"

such a pathetic toddler.

 

[zinfamous]

So if the report does indeed exonerate trump, what then?

I guess we focus on the 17 other current investigations into Trump and his family.

 

[UglyCasanova]

It needs to be made public immediately, the American public deserves nothing less. But hopefully this finally puts it to rest. We’ve had a two year comprehensive investigation and the result was no collusion found. Does that mean it’s the truth? No, but it’s the best we’ve got and this can’t be something that just plays out into eternity. And it will continue to play out until the report is released in its entirety.

 

[zinfamous]

IMO no one should be surprised by this. The Mueller investigation was always a sham. Of course the Republicans investigated themselves and found no evidence of wrongdoing.. except for all the indictments and guilty pleas from low-level patsies. But otherwise, the very purpose and goal of the investigation was always to ensure that the President was exonerated.

wait, what? where are you coming from with this?

 

[zinfamous]

It needs to be made public immediately, the American public deserves nothing less. But hopefully this finally puts it to rest. We’ve had a two year comprehensive investigation and the result was no collusion found. Does that mean it’s the truth? No, but it’s the best we’ve got and this can’t be something that just plays out into eternity. And it will continue to play out until the report is released in its entirety.

devil's advocate: the truth of the Kennedy Assassination was known and extensively investigated to the level of absolute truth by 1967 or so, yet probably more than half of this country believes in some nonsensical bullshit theory (Well, many nonsense theories) and refuse to believe the truth.


...basically, you give simple people way too much credit.

That being said, this isn't any kind of "putting it to rest." Trump is facing multiple investigations relating to serious financial and campaign crimes and, of course, obstruction is actually still kind of up.

 

[Maxima1]

wait, what? where are you coming from with this?

Well, Rosenstein made the determination with Barr on the obstruction side of it. it's improper of Rosenstein because of that letter he signed, and the decision is a pile of excrement for anyone with a lick of sense. Don't know about Mueller. We need to get the actual report.

 

[Perknose]

IMO no one should be surprised by this. The Mueller investigation was always a sham. Of course the Republicans investigated themselves and found no evidence of wrongdoing.. except for all the indictments and guilty pleas from low-level patsies. But otherwise, the very purpose and goal of the investigation was always to ensure that the President was exonerated.

Vic, who took over your account? Such a sentiment really doesn't sound like you. <shrug>

Mueller is old school, by the numbers, and highly conservative (in the non-political sense.) Absent a wildly smoking gun, and despite mounds of highly correlative evidence, he was never going to jump out of line. He determined that, on obstruction, the most he could do was say there was enough for the AG, his boss and the highest legal official, to consider prosecution . . . independent of whether that AG was a more, ummm, political animal.

Mueller is not. Rigorously not. Like I said, old school.

 

[Perknose]

devil's advocate: the truth of the Kennedy Assassination was known and extensively investigated to the level of absolute truth by 1967 or so,

You know the "absolute truth" about the Kennedy assassination? Do share!

 

[fskimospy]

Odd how the left isn’t attacking Mueller for not returning their preferred results in the same way conservatives relentlessly attacked Mueller for years. I was assured that the left and the right were the same.

I wonder if conservatives will re-evaluate and come to different conclusions as to the relative sanity of each side of the political divide.

 

[dbr1]

For everyone here stating collusion was proven, obvious, a given...

From the report summary:

Based on these activities, the Special Counsel brought criminal charges against a number of Russian military officers for conspiring to hack into computers in the United States for purposes of influencing the election. But as noted above, the Special Counsel did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, DESPITE MULTIPLE OFFERS FROM RUSSIAN-AFFILIATED INDIVIDUALS TO ASSIST THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN.

I won't hold my breath for anyone to admit that perhaps they were wrong.

 

[kage69]

Odd how the left isn’t attacking Mueller for not returning their preferred results in the same way conservatives relentlessly attacked Mueller for years. I was assured that the left and the right were the same.

True enough. I don't see insults, wishes of death, etc. I see confusion based on what we already know, over Mueller punting on obstruction. Look how mad the trumpers just got at Crenshaw over nothing, imagine if Mueller presented damning evidence of conspiracy.

I wonder if conservatives will re-evaluate and come to different conclusions as to the relative sanity of each side of the political divide.

I guess if not there are 17 more investigations yet to finish that might assist in that. Actually, since Mueller punted on the obstruction, does that make it 17.5?

 

[Maxima1]

For everyone here stating collusion was proven, obvious, a given...

From the report summary:

Based on these activities, the Special Counsel brought criminal charges against a number of Russian military officers for conspiring to hack into computers in the United States for purposes of influencing the election. But as noted above, the Special Counsel did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, DESPITE MULTIPLE OFFERS FROM RUSSIAN-AFFILIATED INDIVIDUALS TO ASSIST THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN.

I won't hold my breath for anyone to admit that perhaps they were wrong.

Regardless whether or not it arises to provable beyond a reasonable doubt or a crime that's prosecutable, he's a piece of crap that has no business being president. Shee-it, this doesn't even include the daily impeachable shit he does.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1109955889249828865

https://twitter.com/x/status/1109962733477339136

 

[Jhhnn]

No Americans were charged by Mueller for election interference, though.
One would think a few Americans would have been netted if there was an organized American side to it.

Of course not. Americans have the right to free speech, even when they're knowingly or unknowingly just rebroadcasting Russian propaganda.

 

[brycejones]

For everyone here stating collusion was proven, obvious, a given...

From the report summary:

Based on these activities, the Special Counsel brought criminal charges against a number of Russian military officers for conspiring to hack into computers in the United States for purposes of influencing the election. But as noted above, the Special Counsel did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, DESPITE MULTIPLE OFFERS FROM RUSSIAN-AFFILIATED INDIVIDUALS TO ASSIST THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN.

I won't hold my breath for anyone to admit that perhaps they were wrong.

Hacked account says what?

 

[dbr1]

Regardless whether or not it arises to provable beyond a doubt or a crime that's prosecutable, he's a piece of crap that has no business being president. Shee-it, this doesn't even include the daily impeachable shit he does.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1109955889249828865

https://twitter.com/x/status/1109962733477339136

T̶r̶u̶m̶p̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶R̶u̶s̶s̶i̶a̶n̶ ̶a̶g̶e̶n̶t̶
P̷u̷t̷i̷n̷ ̷h̷a̷s̷ ̷d̷i̷r̷t̷ ̷o̷n̷ ̷T̷r̷u̷m̷p̷
R̵u̵s̵s̵i̵a̵n̵ ̵C̵o̵l̵l̵u̵s̵i̵o̵n̵
I̸n̸d̸i̸c̸t̸m̸e̸n̸t̸s̸ ̸w̸i̸l̸l̸ ̸r̸e̸a̸c̸h̸ ̸t̸h̸e̸ ̸W̸h̸i̸t̸e̸ ̸H̸o̸u̸s̸e̸
B̶u̶t̶ ̶P̶r̶a̶g̶u̶e̶
O̵b̵s̵t̵r̵u̵c̵t̵i̵o̵n̵
He's mean to us.

 

[dbr1]

Hacked account says what?

What is that even supposed to mean? That I am a Russian who hacked someone's account here to post propaganda?

And someone here is saying that Leftists are the more rational ones on the political spectrum.

 

[echo4747]

Odd how the left isn’t attacking Mueller for not returning their preferred results in the same way conservatives relentlessly attacked Mueller for years. I was assured that the left and the right were the same.

I wonder if conservatives will re-evaluate and come to different conclusions as to the relative sanity of each side of the political divide.

Dems should at least be grateful to Mueller for dragging this out until now. If he had revealed this six months ago, there would have been no blue wave.

 

[brycejones]

What is that even supposed to mean? That I am a Russian who hacked someone's account here to post propaganda?

And someone here is saying that Leftists are the more rational ones on the political spectrum.

So after 5 years away from Anandtech and zero posting history in P&N you suddenly come back for this thread? Seems legit. Welcome back comrade, next time you should pick less obvious account to assume identity of.

 

[Jhhnn]

From the aricle linked above-

By asserting that the issue is only whether or not he directly colluded with the Kremlin plot, Trump has diverted attention from the fact that he facilitated an assault on his own country. That may or may not have been illegal. But it was betrayal. It was treachery.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/trump-mueller-report-russia/

There's more, of course.

 

[Vic]

What is that even supposed to mean? That I am a Russian who hacked someone's account here to post propaganda?

And someone here is saying that Leftists are the more rational ones on the political spectrum.

From the report summary:

Based on these activities, the Special Counsel brought criminal charges against a number of Russian military officers for conspiring to hack into computers in the United States for purposes of influencing the election.

Mueller found it to be rational enough.

 

[dbr1]

So after 5 years away from Anandtech and zero posting history in P&N you suddenly come back for this thread? Seems legit. Welcome back comrade, next time you should pick less obvious account to assume identity of.

What is your alternative theory? That I am Viktor in St. Petersburg paid for by the Russian government to hack into legitimate accounts to argue with insane and ill-mannered American Leftists on a meaningless sidebar political forum? What possible purpose would that serve?

 

[Jhhnn]

What is your alternative theory? That I am Viktor in St. Petersburg paid for by the Russian government to hack into legitimate accounts to argue with insane and ill-mannered American Leftists on a meaningless sidebar political forum? What possible purpose would that serve?

You get to practice & try out for the big time.

 

[dbr1]

You get to practice & try out for the big time.

I'm afraid that this is not strengthening your rationality credentials.

 

[Vic]

What is your alternative theory? That I am Viktor in St. Petersburg paid for by the Russian government to hack into legitimate accounts to argue with insane and ill-mannered American Leftists on a meaningless sidebar political forum? What possible purpose would that serve?

I don't like that some posters call posters they don't agree with a 'Russian agent.' But at the same time, I really don't care if some ill-mannered partisan hack gets what he gives. If you can't take it, then don't dish it out. Or at the very least, don't whine like a bitch about it.

 

[Maxima1]

You get to practice & try out for the big time.

i think it's just fucktards gloating. They've all come out of the woodwork.