Something for the whining, liberal, atheist in here...

[konichiwa]

Why don't you explain it to me then? I'm interested, that is, if you HAVE an explaination. Considering you most likely don't, feel free to continue avoiding the question politician-style.

 

[Harvey]

KDOG -- I'm a liberal and an atheist and proud of both, but I'm hardly whining. Anyone who gets in my face with that pile of sh8 might hear me bark fsck you!

... a country founded on Christian principles.

yada, yada, yada! The basic principles of this country found in Christianity are also found in other religions and philosophies. Thomas Jefferson was a Deist. That is, he believed that a deity created the universe, then basically let it fly on its own. Essentially, all prayers are answered, but the answer in, NO.

One of the most important principles of this country is freedom of and from religion. That is the law. That is one of the finest guarantees we have. You are welcome to your beliefs, but if you insist on shoving them off on me, I'll be glad to show you who's whining. :|

 

[MrPALCO]

Because we are citizens in good standing of the United States of America, when we move in the circles of Government, we do so prompted by the voice of our God.

God has influence in the Government of this land,
by origin and by proxy.

 

[UG]

KDOG;

<...Oh the freedom FROM religion thing...is pathetic...>

No more so then your adherence to antiquated notions of origin and purpose.

 

[BoberFett]

Under the US Constitution, a person has every right to pray to satan before a football game. That is the very thing that the separation of church and state is there to protect. It's not there to say that a person isn't allowed to pray, quite the opposite, it's there to say they are allowed to pray and in whatever manner they see fit.

 

[Zucchini]

&quot;Some of you are missing the point...its making a point about the whiny, stupid, fruit loopy people getting lawyers cause thier the slightest bit offended. I wondered if youd like it if us Christians got a lawyer everytime, the liberal media, entertainment industry, government and of course the whiny, liberal, atheist citizen said something that offended us...which is like every 5 minutes.
&quot;

Missing the point? Its more about forcing your religion on others then simply offending. Liberal media? Your funny, just look at the coverage of the election. You should really stop listening to right wing talkshows. As for your arguements, you can't seem to write a sentence without using name calling. It just shows that you have no substance in your arguements.

And as for your saying that liberals are automatically athiests, does this mean that all conservatives are religious? What are you saying. All that dissagree with you must be godless heathens right?

 

[UG]

<...in whatever manner they see fit...>

Except over a publicly financed public adress system.

 

[MrPALCO]

<< Under the US Constitution, a person has every right to pray to satan before a football game. >>



Satan has a history of malevolent acts, and therefore would not be welcome as an honoree before a game.

As one who disturbs the peace, he is to be jailed not honored.

 

[konichiwa]

I hope that smilie was not one of those &quot;Praise God&quot; smilies but more like a &quot;Just Kidding&quot; smilie? :Q

 

[~zonker~]

Haven't you guys heard? Don't mix politics and religion?

It's right there in the COnstitution, btw....

Article VI, Clause 3

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

 

[Napalm381]

Mr. Palco- The deity being used as an example is not the issue at hand. The point is, if you don't want to hear somebody pray to <non-christian god of your choice>, what makes you think I want to have to sit there and listen to you pray to Jesus?

 

[MrPALCO]

You may not want to hear our prayer, that is you choice, and I respect that, but please be polite and listen while we Honor God...

 

[konichiwa]

Why the hell should we be polite and listen while you honor your God? No one is stopping you from honoring your God, but just because you want to honor your God doesn't mean we have to listen to you. Do it in private, or if you feel utterly compelled to do it in a public place, do it in your head!

 

[Pennstate]

I think people posts these stupid threads over and over again because they are fscking bored. Get a life! BTW This country was founded on FREEDOM not some religious principle. THe Revolutionary War was a fight for FREEDOM.

 

[Harvey]

PALCO -- <<Satan has a history of malevolent acts...>>

Move to strike. Assuming facts not in evidence, your honor.

<<but please be polite and listen while we Honor God...>>

Polite on our part has nothing to do with listening. We are not required to listen to what you have to say should we choose not to. It has to do with respectfully granting you your right to believe as you wish.

Respect on your part would be the same.

 

[BoberFett]

Exactly right UG. Is that what this little snippet at the start of this thread is referring to? Or is it referring to somebody sitting by themselves in the stand and praying before the game starts? If it's the latter, and they were not allowed to pray, that would be in violation of the 1st Amendment, as government would be forcing a religion (in this case non-religion) on somebody.

 

[Zucchini]

not to mention the absurdity of public prayer, especially at football games.

 

[MrPALCO]

Will you agree to honor your gods &quot;in your head&quot;?

 

[Pennstate]

MR PAlco, I will. I will say my Christian prayers in my head when I am at a football game. (if I choose to)

 

[konichiwa]

MrPALCO

Yes.

*note to all the ladies: If I am your God, feel free to shout my name as loud as you please*

 

[KDOG]

So, what you are saying is that Christians(the majority) should have to hide thier beliefs and cower in silence while you aethiest, libs, whatever(the minority) have run of the place?
Fat chance...

 

[Pennstate]

KDOG, it depends on where you're at.

 

[Zucchini]

and please be polite while we honor god? You mean please sit still while we cram this down your throut.

 

[BoberFett]

Zucchini

I find it absurd that you chose a vegetable as a moniker, but I have yet to try stop you from doing so.

The 1st Amendment doesn't include the clause &quot;as long as nobody finds your religion absurd.&quot;

 

[JenniZ]

I think Mr Palco was one of those druggies/alcoholics that were &quot;saved&quot; by christianity. Classic born againer. From the sound of it, he is still smoking crack or something, and just look at his icon, the thing even looks stoned and stupid.