Something for the whining, liberal, atheist in here...

[MrPALCO]

Every man offers his wares, in the marketplace of ideas, each time he releases words from his mouth. The undeveloped Spirit is easily offended by strong meat, but the mature will grow as steel sharpens steel.

When the chicks are tender, the momma warms them with her cooing and gentleness, this is very kind. When the young Lion enters battle he must have been tested and tried in the fire, this is very kind or he will be consumed by an enemy that knows eternal chains..... are eminent.

Words indicate the position of a Man in the world of the Spirit at every moment, and every word is recorded.

All words spring from a Mans gods or God. Words cannot be separated from this influence.

What is a "christian"?

 

[UG]

My children, let us read the passages herein for their mesages of true enlightenment

<...[e]very right to urge equal protection, but not special privilege...> --Athanasius

Just what Atheists want, too: just equal protection and equal representation. Nothing more.

Happy to live amongst equals, especially unhappy to be made unequal by other than natural circumstance.

<...you and the other atheists ALWAYS resort to this...> --Russ

<...Most (although, not all) of the atheists at this board ALWAYS resort to attacking the individual...> --Russ

You, too, exhibit the occasional use of inaccurate generalities. Are you attacking our philosophy as atheists, or our collective atheist persons, no matter how obliquely?

Where's that H-word?

 

[Russ]

DaboneHead,

Your post, as is usually the case with you, is an argument against a philosophy, not a personal insult directed at an individual member. I have no quarrel with that at all. My problem is with the general idea that Christians are fair game any time someone wants to toss slurs at individuals.



<< Hell this place is a Circus and you and I are a couple of the Headlining Monkeys here Bonzo. >>



Red,

No, we are the Grumpy Old Men. You can't even get that correct.



<< You, too, exhibit the occasional use of inaccurate generalities. Are you attacking our philosophy as atheists, or our collective atheist persons, no matter how obliquely? >>



UG,

There is no difference between &quot;collective&quot; persons and philosophy. Again, I as a Christian, have never personally attacked an atheist because of their beliefs. Nor do any of the others of this board.

Yet, atheists level the most disgusting insults with impugnity.

Russ, NCNE

 

[UG]

<...Yet, atheists level the most disgusting insults with impugnity...> --Russ

Some, many, not all.

I have, in the past. Since, I've moderated my over-enthusiastic expressions of a new-found philosophic public confidence, having embraced many of the well-reasoned calls for moderation authored even by those I once gleefully villified for their apparent philosophic idiocy, instead realizing that their philosophy is as reasoned as my own, though I still think errantly.

Still, Apoppin and Athanasius (and others not recently in attendence in OT) do more for moderating us atheists than do you.

We both have more to learn about moderation of our respective philosophic extremisms (not moderation of BBS's, of course, of which I have no practical experience or knowledge, as do you).

 

[Napalm381]

<< Nor do any of the others of this board. >>

I don't know what you call the term &quot;whining, liberal, atheist&quot;, but it sure sounds like an insult to me.

 

[Russ]

<< I don't know what you call the term &quot;whining, liberal, atheist&quot;, but it sure sounds like an insult to me. >>



I guess that would be the case if one is, indeed, a whiny, liberal, atheist. Of course, since that is who this thread was directed at, then one must assume that those atheists who chose to respond feel that they fit the definition. Otherwise, why respond?

Russ, NCNE

 

[UG]

<... one must assume that those atheists who chose to respond feel that they fit the definition. Otherwise, why respond?..>

Me smells a whiny, conservative Christian thread-poster.

 

[Pennstate]

Someone has to stand up to those close-minded, half-brained, cold-hearted, selfish, cold-blooded, illogical, bullying, cram-it-down-your-throat conservatives on this board Care to respond anyone?


/edit: Did I mention they are also WHINY?

 

[Zucchini]

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[Napalm381]

Anyone who has payed attention to my posts in other threads would know that I am far from liberal. As for whiny, I suppose that is open to interpretation, but I generally don't consider myself to be whiny. I don't have any intention of hiring lawyers and such, as the original email suggested.

Why did I reply? To counter the stereotype that all atheists are whiny and liberal. Others posted the same point earlier in the thread.

 

[DABANSHEE]

&quot;...but christians view evolution to be a fairy tale...&quot;

Hey bober, maybe you should re-phrase that as 'American christians', because to be quite honest with you I don't think I've ever met a European or Australian christian who beleives in those old Jewish creation fables, even the Anglical Archbishop of Canterbury &amp; the Catholic Cardinal of Melbourne beleive that evolution to be the more likelt scenario.

 

[DABANSHEE]

&quot;Please show me a statute or other legally recognized document where you have the right of protection from anything you don't like to hear?&quot;

But, I agree with you on this statement, Bober. I may find people praying in public slightly annoying, but that's no reason for it to be banned. Just as some people find swearing in public to be annoying but that's no reason for it to be banned either.

I take it that this issue involves public outloud preying at a state school 'football' game on the school oval, which is another matter.

 

[JenniZ]

Dabanshee:

Wrong again, not all american christians believe that, in fact I believe its a pretty small percentage. The majority of &quot;creationists&quot; are Baptists. MANY of my christian friends, from assorted sects do NOT believe in talking snakes and creationism.

Stop trying to make americans sound like idiots, you always attempt this, and end up making yourself appear as am uninformed stereotypical fool.


No, I'm not a christian.

 

[DABANSHEE]

Hey Red, don't worry about Mr Palco, he's actually a 'christian nutty Jesus freak bible thumper' bot designed by a athiest 'script kiddie' in Perl, &amp; is programed to frequent UBB &amp; UBB clones on the web, to make all christians look like nuts.

The 'Mr Palco' bot is really an ally of you in this um 'debate' - think of him the way the far-right in Israel donated money to Hamas, with the object of making Hamas more popular with Palistinians &amp; in so doing making the Palestinians less popular with the west. So really the more successful the 'Mr Palco' bot is, the more nutty &amp; extreme it makes christians appear, thus making atheism/agnosticism appear the more rational way of thinking.

 

[Napalm381]

JenniZ- in a Gallup poll (here 47 percent of Americans in 1999 agreed with the statement &quot;God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so. &quot; While such surveys are of course not perfect, it appears that more people than just the Baptists support such nonsensical ideas.

 

[soapdish]

JenniZ,

I dont mean to argue with you, but we make ourselves look like idiots. I mean, haven't the falwells, and the rest made a few doubters out there?


Somewhere along the way, Creationists (largely baptist and rural) drew a line and said none shall cross, however, with every day that passes we turn up new evidence that suggests creationism was little more than a fable for the simple people of 1,500 years ago.

But no matter, that line was drawn. It is more about egos today than reality. And unfortunately for many, it is do or die regarding their beliefs. And so we argue meaninglessly over this side issue of creation...


I am a Christian, however, I don't believe whole heartedly in anything in the Old Testament. It is too changed over the years. And too much empirical evidence refutes it.


Why some American Christian Sects continue to expound upon the old testament as fact confounds me. In my travels, which have been worldly, I have found this to be an American thing... and not a fact that is shared with our brother Christians in foreign countries (with the exceptoin of a few remote places).

It just seems that our need to believe overrides our need to think about it, and come up with reasonable conclusions ourselves.

 

[MrPALCO]

<< When I flamed KDog and Palco, it wasn't their faith I was attacking but their attitudes towards myself and others because we don?t happen to believe as they do. >>




A Man once said to me...&quot;would you argue with me and become offended if I let you know that your new Pentium 4, cannot work on your Tyan S1590 Mobo&quot;?

I understood right away, that the World of the Spirit functions with great accuracy, everything works together for Good, when the instructions of the Builder are followed.

 

[konichiwa]

<< A Man once said to me...&quot;would you argue with me and become offended if I let you know that your new Pentium 4, cannot work on your Tyan S1590 Mobo&quot;?

I understood right away, that the World of the Spirit functions with great accuracy, everything works together for Good, when the instructions of the Builder are followed >>

Wow man, that's some deeeeep sh!t. Go ahead, take another puff.

 

[IronMike]

You are correct Mr. Palco.
But is it not true, that a wet bird never flies at night?

 

[rahvin]

<<When Christians have power and are in the majority in any area of life, you can expect us to use that power to promote our agenda. You can also expect us to do so with kindness and Honor, toward all assembled.>>

Kinda like the inquisition eh? When religion reigns, horror follows....