So why do people hate OSX here so much?

[Joseph F]

You've been alive for less than a third the amount of time Steve Jobs has! I'd like to know why you hate him?

Just curious.

Well, perhaps I should rephrase. I strongly dislike Steve Jobs because I think that he's a douche bag and I can't stand his speeches.

 

[LegendKiller]

2 finger tap for right click is not simple???

Give me a fucking button, that's all I want. I don't want to have to whip out gang signs or shit like that.

 

[alevasseur14]

Give me a fucking button, that's all I want. I don't want to have to whip out gang signs or shit like that.

One of your fingers is already on the trackpad. The second one is pretty close.

Promise!

 

[Krynj]

I really don't get it. Right now I've got a quad core box running 10.6 with all the unix stuff I'd ever need (yay bash and darwin ports), with eclipse open, playing itunes and a full screened virtualized instance of XP running on a separate virtual desktop.

Aside from playing games, what's not to like?

It's not OSX. For me, it's Apple their overpriced machines, and "walled garden" hoopla.

The system in my sig could probably mop the floor with yours, and I'd bet it cost me less than half what you paid.

 

[xanis]

Give me a fucking button, that's all I want. I don't want to have to whip out gang signs or shit like that.

I currently own a MBP. I've used the button/mousepad combos on numerous other laptops and the MBP's trackpad, by far and away, is the best solution IMO. Methinks you're doing it wrong.

 

[Cyco]

Aside from playing games, what's not to like?

Isn't that enough?

 

[xSauronx]

reason 1. it's cool to hate apple. reason 2. Windows people don't like change and adapting to OSX takes time

i dont care for it, its not the parts that are different, i just havent found anything about it that i really, really think is great.

i dont think its horrible...its just not great. between my limited use and watching a friend use all his apple stuff, i have zero interest in using their computers or owning one myself.

 

[lord_emperor]

I hate OSX's "it just works" mantra, sorry but I can manually set things up the way I want them in about 1/10th the time it takes the system to try every conceivable combination of settings (and choose the wrong one).

I don't like the dock.

OSX inherited all the over-complicated file system confusion from *nix but little of the good things.

 

[Demo24]

The trackpad on the macbooks is only good for surfing around the net clicking links, clicking buttons, beyond that its a pos. Highlighting text, dealing with spreadsheets, or trying to right click on a specific spot it is fucking annoying.


OSX, meh I don't see the appeal. It doesn't really look that good. Everything is that drab grey apart from the dock thing at the bottom which does a horrible job of dealing with multitasking. Fuck expose, if I want to switch programs its far easier to mouse down to the taskbar and click the program/window I want. I'm always having to hunt around for basic things to, which is annoying. Nor is it really all that intuitive besides surfing the net/whatever is in that dockbar. And I still don't get why you need to command+q out of a program even if you hit the x button.

 

[tfinch2]

No page up/down, no maximize window button

 

[zoiks]

I don't hate OSX and I run Linux on my computers. I dislike Apple because it is overhyped and overpriced. Plus the fanboys drive me nuts.

Yep. I'm in the same boat. Both of my machines and my netbook at home are Ubuntu. I use a win64 laptop at work. But only for outlook. First thing I do when I get to work is open a putty session to one of the red hat blade machines to do my work.

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[QueBert]

i dont care for it, its not the parts that are different, i just havent found anything about it that i really, really think is great.

i dont think its horrible...its just not great. between my limited use and watching a friend use all his apple stuff, i have zero interest in using their computers or owning one myself.

That makes sense, but people who hate it I don't get though. What I use OSX for it's far superior to Windows. But I can see the view of people like you who really don't like it.

 

[KMFJD]

Windows works fine for me?

 

[destrekor]

I want to be in full control of my hardware.

And I really don't want to manage more than one OS. I've come to realize that recently. I have Ubuntu installed on this machine, but besides using it for an extended time when I proceeded to mess up my boot files during the installation (and having difficulty figuring out how to even access the Windows Boot Manager again so I could boot into Windows)... I just haven't touched it since then.
Why?
Because managing more than one OS when one does just fine is a pain in the ass and something I don't care to do.
I might turn an old machine into a server so I can spread out my computing and play around with things like that, and if I do that Ubuntu will probably go there. I fear I may try and even dual-boot the server and mess around with a recent Windows Server OS... and I'll probably proceed to screw that up too.
But the big problem is: Windows 7 works beautifully for me, but keeping one system up to date is something I find dull and dreadful; I would absolutely hate booting into each and constantly needing to update both of them.

And I have my games, and thus I need Windows. Ubuntu, or OS X for that matter, can't do games without a loss of performance due to virtualization, and uh... I have this computing power to use all of it for the tasks at hand, I don't want to lose performance.

And that brings me back to my first point. I want to be in complete control of all the components. And that means no Apple. And if I'm not buying their machines, I'm not going to ever try using their OS on my own machine, because I'd have to buy it. The only OS I will buy is a new version of Windows, so the only other OS I will install on my machines must be free. I am not paying for two, hell no.

And I will most certainly never buy an Apple machine and then dual-boot it with Windows. That is primarily because I will never buy an Apple machine. Not because of brand issues... well, actually sort of. The brand tends to be ridiculously expensive, and the PCs and laptops they sell would fall under such label. Their mobile products basically set the standards, so... if that's too expensive, we'll never know, because their prices in said markets aren't that much higher than the standard cost of entry for similar products (including hardware and features). But their computers? Shit... right now I could make a machine that would trump their next greatest release, and easily do so at less than the price of their current middle-of-the-road configuration.

 

[Aikouka]

I don't really hate OSX, but I really don't like using it much. Although, I should say that the majority of my time with it was on a Hackintosh. Purely software-wise, the things that bother me are really just the differences with Windows. I can deal with small things, but there are little differences that I don't want to deal with. Such as maximizing a window. I've talked about this in the Apple sub-forum, but my Windows-heavy use makes me accustomed to a maximized window taking up the full screen, and I kind of like it this way.

One thing that's always bothered me as well... it seems when people maximize in OSX, the launcher bar blocks the window from going down further. Well, this isn't much different in Windows compared to the system tray, but what makes it so awkward for me is that there's empty space to the sides of the launcher bar that just seem to never get filled in. My slight OCD does not like this :\.

It's kind of nit-picky to be honest, but in all seriousness... Windows does what I need and I see no reason to use OSX other than iOS development (which I rather dislike that there are no Windows development environments barring SDKs). Also, for those complaining about prices... you can just build a Hackintosh in which OSX will only cost you $30. The lowest version of Windows will run you $100 for an OEM copy.

You've been alive for less than a third the amount of time Steve Jobs has! I'd like to know why you hate him?

Just curious.

I actually didn't mind Steve Jobs too much. I knew he was a bit hot-headed and that's kind of what helped him lead Apple back from the "doom and gloom" (along with some great products waiting for him... the "i-products" were already under development before he came back).

What made me find a new sort of distaste for him was when I read Steve Wozniak's book (iWoz). Jobs fucked over his own friend (Wozniak) on more than one occasion. For example, Jobs was working at Atari and contacted Wozniak to help design a hardware solution to play Breakout. The thing was... they had 4 days to do it in it. Well, they ended up doing it and Jobs split the $700 with Wozniak. Turns out... Jobs made far more than $700 for that project, but I guess... well, they never said why he lied about it, but to do that to your own friend :\.

I have to give credit to Wozniak there... I know I would cease associating myself with him at that point, but he didn't. It's not even the money in that case, but the fact that he'd lie to a best friend over what could presumably be greed. That's just cold.

 

[SaDiZTiKStyLeZ]

It's not so much not liking OS X as it is hating Apple. Hating Apple is the trendy thing to do on boards like this.

This. Bandwagon effect.

I used to just hate Apple products, for no other reason than to hate Apple products.

Then I landed a job that 99% of the time was spent working with mac's. I came to realize they are decent machines for what they are.

My dream setup would be a few windows, mac, & linux pc's.

 

[SSSnail]

This. Bandwagon effect.

I used to just hate Apple products, for no other reason than to hate Apple products.

Then I landed a job that 99% of the time was spent working with mac's. I came to realize they are decent machines for what they are.

My dream setup would be a few windows, mac, & linux pc's.

You know, before I moved up north from SoCal, my friend told me that most of the women here are kinda ugly, but eventually I'd get used to them and then they'd become somewhat hot. I didn't think it was true, then it happened.

Then, I go down south every now and then and I'm like "FFFFUUUU"...

Yeah, it's kinda like that.

 

[zerocool84]

This. Bandwagon effect.

I used to just hate Apple products, for no other reason than to hate Apple products.

Then I landed a job that 99% of the time was spent working with mac's. I came to realize they are decent machines for what they are.

My dream setup would be a few windows, mac, & linux pc's.

Apple products are popular so the bandwagon effect is to like them.

 

[TechAZ]

I don't hate it, I just don't desire it. I never liked Apple/Macintosh computers, going all the way back to the Macintosh computers in grade school/junior high....just always liked the PC I had as a kid much more. I loved upgrading RAM, running and visiting BBS's, swapping out HD's and modems, it was so involved and a great hobby. If you owned a Mac, it wasn't a hobby.

Bottom line; there is nothing that OSX will give me that I don't get already on a PC.

 

[HAL9000]

I don't think it's that people hate the operating system, I think it's that people dislike the company, the way they operate, and some people don't like not being able to build their own computers as easily.

Also some people are offended by paying more for a different product.

 

[irishScott]

Like others, for me it's apple. There is nothing I can do on an Apple that I can't do on windows for a comparable or cheaper price, or on my linux partition for free. In fact next to none of my many games run on Apple, and those that do are ports. I also have no desire to be associated with Apple fanbois, and dislike most Apple aesthetics. I'm just not a fan of glossy white polycarboshit surrounding my components, although their aluminum stuff is decent.

OSX is fine from a technical standpoint. I like enlightenment window manager on *nix better.

 

[masterxfob]

You know, before I moved up north from SoCal, my friend told me that most of the women here are kinda ugly, but eventually I'd get used to them and then they'd become somewhat hot. I didn't think it was true, then it happened.

Then, I go down south every now and then and I'm like "FFFFUUUU"...

Yeah, it's kinda like that.

well played :thumbsup:

 

[HAL9000]

Linux ftw. One day these threads will be "Why do people still use Windows when they can use Linux?"

 

[zerocool84]

Linux ftw. One day these threads will be "Why do people still use Windows when they can use Linux?"

Program support

 

[deanx0r]

No page up/down, no maximize window button

Fn + up/down = Page up/down
Cmd + up/down = End/Home
Maximize window = Green button

OSX makes more senses when it comes to workflow in my opinion but it is far from perfect. Apple did a very good job when it comes to gestures with their trackpad, and I really prefer the way Finder represents files and folders as opposed to Explorer. But Finder is a pain when you need to do a file search, and the lack of Cmd+X is nerve wracking coming from windows.

This forum is mainly composed of PC enthusiasts tho, so there will always be some bias going around. The problem is that most of those very enthusiasts are self proclaimed 'computer experts' because they managed to open their PC to change a graphic card. Hey look I made a generalization too! As good as the Apple sheeps!