it's not a witch hunt because Q made everything public. the heat was public, TFinch didn't initially name Q but it really doesn't matter as Q had already posted PUBLIC HEAT.
what you are trying to argue is that none of us should say anything on this matter and T and Q should have had this issue mediated, that could have worked if Q had been patient and NOT POSTED HEAT.
you just don't see that point.
hence you are irrelevant and . . .
YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK.
Let's see, we have folks checking my posting history and all and can't see what threads I've posted upon?? What thread at the FS/FT forum did I post on again? What was that issue about? And how long was the non-payment
Oh, yes it ties into this thread perfectly.
Terumo
bs you got scammed by a bad trader.
in this thread TFinch wasn't a bad trader, he may have been but Q never allowed for that to be shown he acted impatiently before that fact could come out.
so, if you really want to argue we should wait for the evidence, it was Q that should have waited.
and guess what, the most he would have been out by waiting was the time it is going to take for canon to ship him a new scanner.
interesting teruno how many of the people that defended you in this thread http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=45&threadid=1772529&enterthread=y also disagreed with Q's actions in this thread.
hmmm.
btw, you are being way hypocritical commenting about my all caps and not responding to the substance of my posts while complaining that BJ is nitpicking your lack of email address in your profile. :roll:
hmmm.
btw, you are being way hypocritical commenting about my all caps and not responding to the substance of my posts while complaining that BJ is nitpicking your lack of email address in your profile. :roll:
Originally posted by: TerumoII
Actually, n00b, I've been a member of AT longer than you.
That said, you contacted him and he said what? Then how was this issue settled?
/grabbing popcorn (or waiting for a thread lock)........
Terumo
And Terumo, before you say you've been here a long time your original join date was 01/23/2005
Google Cache does not lie
Terumo, I'm calling you out!
TerumoII,
Once again, justify your claim I spread misinformation.
Not only that, prove the fact that me and the rest of the people in this thread are part of some great scheme to scam others out of money. Also that we're clansmen.
Also, prove that heat23, who helps provide and monitor Heatware free of charge, is part of this grand scheme.
If you can't do the above, you shouldn't be welcomed here. The 2nd and 3rd are extremely serious charges leveled against many members in good standing in AT in general, and FS/FT.
Once again, justify your claim I spread misinformation.
Not only that, prove the fact that me and the rest of the people in this thread are part of some great scheme to scam others out of money. Also that we're clansmen.
Also, prove that heat23, who helps provide and monitor Heatware free of charge, is part of this grand scheme.
If you can't do the above, you shouldn't be welcomed here. The 2nd and 3rd are extremely serious charges leveled against many members in good standing in AT in general, and FS/FT.
Bad deflection.
No TF did as soon as he wrote that PM revealing whatever name (don't even know IF it was Quasarsky in the first place....lol). Once outside the two parties it's a public matter (no matter how folks claim PMs are "private" <-- they're not and readily shared).
It's because it seems why Quasarsky came here to address the issue upfront.
Doesn't matter once the name is out, if Quasarsky's rep was taking a hit backchannel (yet publicly stated) he has every right to refute it.
Nope, what I'm saying is the issue should've been handled first between the 2 parties. If they couldn't mediate it with heatware where the issue really belongs (as it's all about a heat blight), then a public resolution is a choice.
This matter went between both parties, fought at heatware, and then dragged here all unresolved. It makes AT look bad; it makes both parties and their supporters look like azzholes for staging a witch hunt with zero evidence (none of us are party to the details -- only the two in question know the truth); and now it's attack anyone who even thinks otherwise than this damn azzhole clannish BS.
See, that's the immaturity in all of this. If you can't win by content, try to assassinate the messenger with the lamest insults.
Now how about evolving instead of devolving yourself, and address the issue truthfully and honestly. Not just sticking up to TF like you're Cheney/Rove/Rumsfeld and he's Bush.
Terumo
No cigar.
I'll let smarter folks than yourself search for themselves (without the propaganda as well).
But thanks for the free forum wide bump though.
Terumo
Originally posted by: TerumoII
No cigar.
I'll let smarter folks than yourself search for themselves (without the propaganda as well).
But thanks for the free forum wide bump though.
Terumo
So first you're never going to trade here again, and now thanks for the forum wide bump?
WTF? I don't know any of these guys. I've never traded with any of them either? Why do you constantly generalized us when it is clear that Quarsky is wrong?
We've already proven the fact that Quarsky did not act correctly when leaving the feedback. Are we saying Tfinch is perfect? No we aren't, but this all started b/c of Quarsky's impatience and bad trade practices.
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Terumo, I am also a neutral observer that read every post in this thread (did you do the same?) and made my own decision. When there is a dispute after or during a trade there must be understanding. 45 minutes before action is not understanding; it is hasty behavior. Giving credit to the seller for the additional 2-3 days is due. While quasarsky wasnt there until the 30th the product was delivered on the 27th. Quasarsky expected Tfinch2 to wait 3 days + days afterwards to test product. After waiting more than 4 days after the product was delivered (3 days + at least one for trial even though it was more than that) quasarsky was upset when tfinch2 didnt return his messages IMMEDIATELY. If i've waited for 4 days to test the product since it's date of delivery OR even a day or more after me having it my actual hands physically then the seller deserves more than 45 minutes to respond to my message.
I know neither party in this exchange but from what I have read the product was tested before it left Tfinch2's house in working order. It arrived at quasarsky's house on the 27th. Quasarsky physically held package in hand for first time on 30th. Product was then tested on the 2nd of January. This is 6 days after original delivery of product and 3 days after physically holding product in hands. Tfinch2 waited patiently for quasarsky to test the product for 6 days yet quasarsky only waited 45 minutes for a responce before leaving heatware. THIS is why the heatware was unwarranted.
NO ONE disuptes the fact that quasarsky paid on the 22nd - I believe quasarsky. NO ONE disputes the fact that it was delivered on the 27th - I believe Tfinch2. Sure quasarsky didnt physically hold the package in his hand until the 30th - I believe this to be fact as well yet is quasarsky's fault, NOT Tfinch2's. Product was not tested until January 2nd, 6 days after original delivery, 3 days after physical posession.
You stated to BigJ that we have to give quasarsky the same consideration to be away as we do to Tfinch2 and we are. We gave him the 3 days. Not Tfinch's fault the product was delivered 3 days before Quasarsky physically held it in his hands. Why didnt quasarsky give Tfinch2 at least 3 days to fix the situation. Where was Quasarsky's consideration to Tfinch2.
If you are a messager i'd like to know what message you are carrying. To me your posts make no sence and everything you have stated has been batted down (many times with the fs/ft forum rules).
Originally posted by: TerumoII
Actually, n00b, I've been a member of AT longer than you.
That said, you contacted him and he said what? Then how was this issue settled?
/grabbing popcorn (or waiting for a thread lock)........
Terumo
Then you should have learned how to read long ago. The issue was settled by quasarsky jumping the gun after waiting only 45 minutes for a responce from Tfinch2.
i bumped the thread so that you could delete it, because you wanted nothing to do with the FS/FT forum.
Suffering from short term memory loss again?
Suffering from short term memory loss again?
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: TerumoII
Actually, n00b, I've been a member of AT longer than you.
That said, you contacted him and he said what? Then how was this issue settled?
/grabbing popcorn (or waiting for a thread lock)........
Terumo
And Terumo, before you say you've been here a long time your original join date was 01/23/2005
Google Cache does not lie
Terumo I'm calling you out!
Temuro, can you answer me this one thing...
Do you feel that Quarsky's neutral feedback was given to quickly and was undeserving at the time?
Do you feel that Quarsky's neutral feedback was given to quickly and was undeserving at the time?
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: TerumoII
Actually, n00b, I've been a member of AT longer than you.
That said, you contacted him and he said what? Then how was this issue settled?
/grabbing popcorn (or waiting for a thread lock)........
Terumo
And Terumo, before you say you've been here a long time your original join date was 01/23/2005
Google Cache does not lie
Terumo I'm calling you out!
Ownt again!
Who? Never traded at AT before.
Again -- how long is too long? 2 weeks? 2 months? 2 years?
Ask yourself: do you believe everything you read online (or just with certain people)? Now tell the world what type of crystal ball you have to be so privy of what was exchanged between TF and Q.
A lot of times buyers/salers go on instinct. We buy/sell/trade trusting our own senses if the deal is kosher or not. If someone left you while claiming XYZ product isn't working -- natural instinct will raise an alarm.
Q wasn't beyond being human to think something wasn't right. Just like any other buyer/seller/trader when they deal with anyone else.
Yep, which is probably why he wrote a neutral heat instead of a negative (it was sent quickly as he stated and gave that praise).
Terumo
If you actually read the thread, you would know how long too long is. Hell if you even read the FS/FT rules and guidelines, you would know it:
7. If said trader does not respond in two working days, email again. Be patient.
8. If said trader does not respond within one week, contact the Troll Hunters. They are a group of established traders with a lot of experience who work across several forums chasing thieves and other bad traders and helping to resolve trading disputes.
9. Please do not jump to conclusions until a reasonable amount of time has passed. Two weeks with no response is a sure bet that something is wrong.
Ask yourself: do you believe anything you read online (or just with Qurasky)? It doesn't appear so because you failed to listen to anybody in this thread but Q. And you obviously don't know how to read because you don't comprehend anything others are saying. Why are you still here? Why not settle this with Q in pm and show your love/support there?
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