So who's at fault here? *UPDATED*

[EMPshockwave82]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: quasarsky
i told him it was broken

i knew that he knew it was broken

after knowing all this,

by getting off of anandtech, he showed how helpful he was going to be.

enough said.

You really are that dense.

i'll help you out quasarsky



i told him it was broken - perfectly fine

i knew that he knew it was broken - you THOUGHT that he sent you a product that was defective when sent and he says this is not the case as it was tested before hand ----- JUMPING THE GUN

after knowing all this, - you should have said "after thinking all this"

by getting off of anandtech, he showed how helpful he was going to be. -- you should have said "by getting off anandtech, he showed that he had other things to do with his life than anxiously await my next message"

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: quasarsky
i told him it was broken

i knew that he knew it was broken

after knowing all this,

by getting off of anandtech, he showed how helpful he was going to be.

enough said.

Okay the trolling stops here.

I knew it was broken? Are you calling me a liar? Read the second evaluation on my heatware. That's how you handle defective merchadise. I understand you being anxious (because I know damn well I am) to get your goods but give me a fvcking break.

I would have happily refunded your money plus shipping back for your troubles. It's not even $100 dollars for crying out loud. I'm not turning my nose on a hundred bones but I would do that to protect my trading reputation. It's the legs I stand on when I want to buy merchandise here. If you don't understand that by now, there is something seriously wrong.

You state you tested the unit when I PM'ed you about it? If you were so anxious and those 45 minutes mattered, why didn't you test it sooner? What do you do when you want to make a return and the store is closed? Burn it down? It was delivered the 27th, you recieved it the 30th, and tested it the 2nd. You waited days before you tested it and now all of the sudden 45 minutes matters?

I feel confident that this will be resolved, and the forum and heatware admins will take the proper steps to do so.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
but a distinction is made by AT Forum rules and mods between Public Posts and PM's.

There's a rule against it? I was not aware there was.

a rule against what? i never said there was a rule against anything.

i said AT makes a distinction between PM and Thread posts.

how is that so difficult to understand.

what is with this thread and ignorant posts?

 

[The Batt?sai]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: quasarsky
i told him it was broken

i knew that he knew it was broken

after knowing all this,

by getting off of anandtech, he showed how helpful he was going to be.

enough said.

Okay the trolling stops here.

I knew it was broken? Are you calling me a liar? Read the second evaluation on my heatware. That's how you handle defective merchadise. I understand you being anxious (because I know damn well I am) to get your goods but give me a fvcking break.

I would have happily refunded your money plus shipping back for your troubles. It's not even $100 dollars for crying out loud. I'm not turning my nose on a hundred bones but I would do that to protect my trading reputation. It's the legs I stand on when I want to buy merchandise here. If you don't understand that by now, there is something seriously wrong.

You state you tested the unit when I PM'ed you about it? If you were so anxious and those 45 minutes mattered, why didn't you test it sooner? What do you do when you want to make a return and the store is closed? Burn it down? It was delivered the 27th, you recieved it the 30th, and tested it the 2nd. You waited days before you tested it and now all of the sudden 45 minutes matters?

I feel confident that this will be resolved, and the forum and heatware admins will take the proper steps to do so.

don't put words into my mouth buddy. u know exactly what i meant. and just in case others are confused, what i meant was that you received my message about it being broken and you replied back about it, then u got off ananadtech.

i never said you shipped it broken. stop trying to put words into my mouth. ur totally pathetic for starting this thread.

if you were goign to happily refund my money, why did you happily leave the forums once you knew it was broken?

theres' nothing that needs to be resolved. i got my new scanner from canon and it works.

u can keep being pissy about your neutral but thats your choice. i've wasted enough of my life on this.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: quasarsky

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: quasarsky
i told him it was broken

i knew that he knew it was broken

after knowing all this,

by getting off of anandtech, he showed how helpful he was going to be.

enough said.

Okay the trolling stops here.

I knew it was broken? Are you calling me a liar? Read the second evaluation on my heatware. That's how you handle defective merchadise. I understand you being anxious (because I know damn well I am) to get your goods but give me a fvcking break.

I would have happily refunded your money plus shipping back for your troubles. It's not even $100 dollars for crying out loud. I'm not turning my nose on a hundred bones but I would do that to protect my trading reputation. It's the legs I stand on when I want to buy merchandise here. If you don't understand that by now, there is something seriously wrong.

You state you tested the unit when I PM'ed you about it? If you were so anxious and those 45 minutes mattered, why didn't you test it sooner? What do you do when you want to make a return and the store is closed? Burn it down? It was delivered the 27th, you recieved it the 30th, and tested it the 2nd. You waited days before you tested it and now all of the sudden 45 minutes matters?

I feel confident that this will be resolved, and the forum and heatware admins will take the proper steps to do so.

don't put words into my mouth buddy. u know exactly what i meant. and just in case others are confused, what i meant was that you received my message about it being broken and you replied back about it, then u got off ananadtech.

i never said you shipped it broken. stop trying to put words into my mouth. ur totally pathetic for starting this thread.

if you were goign to happily refund my money, why did you happily leave the forums once you knew it was broken?

theres' nothing that needs to be resolved. i got my new scanner from canon and it works.

u can keep being pissy about your neutral but thats your choice. i've wasted enough of my life on this.

You are dense. Look at the bold in the quote. You said it. YOU SAID THAT I KNEW IT WAS BROKEN. YOU ARE CALLING ME A LIAR WHEN I SAID THAT I TESTED IT BEFORE I SENT IT.

 

[PlatinumGold]

TFinch, insist that Q send you back the new scanner, then you refund him the money and Q is out the scanner pure and siple. and heat23 will delete his ridiculous heat to you.

 

[The Batt?sai]

only a troll would not resolve this reasonably in private with heat23 and the buyer. only a troll would go jerry springer with a thread thats now 26+ pages.

and thats the truth. nothing grey about it at all.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: quasarsky

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: quasarsky
i told him it was broken

i knew that he knew it was broken

after knowing all this,

by getting off of anandtech, he showed how helpful he was going to be.

enough said.

Okay the trolling stops here.

I knew it was broken? Are you calling me a liar? Read the second evaluation on my heatware. That's how you handle defective merchadise. I understand you being anxious (because I know damn well I am) to get your goods but give me a fvcking break.

I would have happily refunded your money plus shipping back for your troubles. It's not even $100 dollars for crying out loud. I'm not turning my nose on a hundred bones but I would do that to protect my trading reputation. It's the legs I stand on when I want to buy merchandise here. If you don't understand that by now, there is something seriously wrong.

You state you tested the unit when I PM'ed you about it? If you were so anxious and those 45 minutes mattered, why didn't you test it sooner? What do you do when you want to make a return and the store is closed? Burn it down? It was delivered the 27th, you recieved it the 30th, and tested it the 2nd. You waited days before you tested it and now all of the sudden 45 minutes matters?

I feel confident that this will be resolved, and the forum and heatware admins will take the proper steps to do so.

don't put words into my mouth buddy. u know exactly what i meant. and just in case others are confused, what i meant was that you received my message about it being broken and you replied back about it, then u got off ananadtech.

i never said you shipped it broken. stop trying to put words into my mouth. ur totally pathetic for starting this thread.

if you were goign to happily refund my money, why did you happily leave the forums once you knew it was broken?

theres' nothing that needs to be resolved. i got my new scanner from canon and it works.

u can keep being pissy about your neutral but thats your choice. i've wasted enough of my life on this.

You are dense. Look at the bold in the quote. You said it. YOU SAID THAT I KNEW IT WAS BROKEN. YOU ARE CALLING ME A LIAR WHEN I SAID THAT I TESTED IT BEFORE I SENT IT.

What I think he means (though poorly worded) is that you knew it was broken after he PM'd you that it was broken. Or at least you were informed that he was having the problem with it not working.

He still doesn't get that he didn't wait long enough. 45 minutes is not long enough in this situation.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: quasarsky
only a troll would not resolve this reasonably in private with heat23 and the buyer. only a troll would go jerry springer with a thread thats now 26+ pages.

and thats the truth. nothing grey about it at all.

only a moron would post public heat and then complained he got bad mouthed for what he did. :roll:

guess what Q, if what you did wasn't questionable in peoples minds, they would have all agreed with you and T would have looked bad.


but fact is, YOU WERE IMPATIENT.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
TFinch, insist that Q send you back the new scanner, then you refund him the money and Q is out the scanner pure and siple. and heat23 will delete his ridiculous heat to you.

I do want the broken scanner back, but I'm not going to be a jerk about it...

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: quasarsky
only a troll would not resolve this reasonably in private with heat23 and the buyer. only a troll would go jerry springer with a thread thats now 26+ pages.

and thats the truth. nothing grey about it at all.

You just owned yourself.

By this definition you are a troll. Why? Because you did not resolve the issue reasonably in private with the seller. You had a problem and went "jerry springer" by overreacting and posting heatware WAY before you should have.

 

[timswim78]

WOW! Now I know not to get involved in a trade with this guy.

The seller logged off of the forums, and this guy acts like he hung up on him while taking on the telephone.

PM'ing on ATAT is not a live conversation and should not be treated as such. That's why we have telephones, IM, and stuff like that.

 

[The Batt?sai]

and if tfinch thought i was being too hasty, threating retalitory negative heat plus dissing me in this thread is not the way to go.

only a troll would do this and not try to resolve it. i'm not an unreasonable person at all. i'm so sick of all these attacks on my character. you people in this thread are pathetic.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: quasarsky

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: quasarsky
i told him it was broken

i knew that he knew it was broken

after knowing all this,

by getting off of anandtech, he showed how helpful he was going to be.

enough said.

Okay the trolling stops here.

I knew it was broken? Are you calling me a liar? Read the second evaluation on my heatware. That's how you handle defective merchadise. I understand you being anxious (because I know damn well I am) to get your goods but give me a fvcking break.

I would have happily refunded your money plus shipping back for your troubles. It's not even $100 dollars for crying out loud. I'm not turning my nose on a hundred bones but I would do that to protect my trading reputation. It's the legs I stand on when I want to buy merchandise here. If you don't understand that by now, there is something seriously wrong.

You state you tested the unit when I PM'ed you about it? If you were so anxious and those 45 minutes mattered, why didn't you test it sooner? What do you do when you want to make a return and the store is closed? Burn it down? It was delivered the 27th, you recieved it the 30th, and tested it the 2nd. You waited days before you tested it and now all of the sudden 45 minutes matters?

I feel confident that this will be resolved, and the forum and heatware admins will take the proper steps to do so.

don't put words into my mouth buddy. u know exactly what i meant. and just in case others are confused, what i meant was that you received my message about it being broken and you replied back about it, then u got off ananadtech.

i never said you shipped it broken. stop trying to put words into my mouth. ur totally pathetic for starting this thread.

if you were goign to happily refund my money, why did you happily leave the forums once you knew it was broken?

theres' nothing that needs to be resolved. i got my new scanner from canon and it works.

u can keep being pissy about your neutral but thats your choice. i've wasted enough of my life on this.

You know what they say about assuming, but you're wayyyy passed that.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: quasarsky
and if tfinch thought i was being too hasty, threating retalitory negative heat plus dissing me in this thread is not the way to go. i

only a troll would do this and not try to resolve it. i'm not an unreasonable person at all. i'm so sick of all these attacks on my character. you people in this thread are pathetic.

actually "reasonable" is defined as what the majority of people deem to be within reason.

guess what, MOST OF THE PEOPLE define you as UNREASONABLE.

 

[Terumo]

Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Where are these ratings you speak of? AT is one of, if not the best forums for trading.

Google is your friend. If you can't google...

"Anandtech+fraud"

No one can help you

Just to help you out....

From HardForum
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=942522&highlight=anandtech+fraud
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=811553&highlight=anandtech+fraud

From Heatware (random pick)...
http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=18892&expandAll=1

Random internet pick...

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Quote, originally posted by Pred »
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you sir are a fooking idiot... how hard would it to be to verify an email address that you registered with on this forum to the email address for heatware... dumbasses like you are why people get trolled....
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Hey Di 'c' k ever hear of ANANDTECH this is how people on ANAND (Probably the largest FS/FT forums you'll ever see, if you took your head out of your azz) got trolled many many times YEA ITS SO HARD TO SPOOF EMAIL ADDY's TO MATCH A KNOWN ADDY or heatware addy, I know from experience so S T F U.

Modified by jgaud at 8:40 PM 11-20-2003

Post Title: Re: unOFFICIAL Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread (VR6GTIGUY)
Posted by: junkyardjockey at 11:20 PM 11-20-2003
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[/quote]

Random internet search on "Anandtech+Troll"...

http://forums.pcper.com/printthread.php?t=248071&pp=40

And a reminder attributed to an Anandtech member....

Whats this PPPPPP?

It's something I first heard back in my Army days...the 6 Ps and it stands for this...

Prior
Planning
Prevents
P@ss
Poor
Performance

So what?s significant about the 6 Ps here on the ShamikaServer forums? Its all about Integrity, honesty, and performance of duty. It?s about fulfilling your obligations in your transactions here on the forum.

Lately we have seen an alarming number of traders newbie, and veteran alike coming up with lots of excuses for poor performance in their transactions. Among these are ..
1. No money to ship your items.
2. No packing materials.
3. No time, due to other family obligations.
4. Midterms/Finals coming up.
5. I forgot.
6. I don?t spend 24/7 behind my keyboard.
7. I just don?t care.
8. I changed my mind.
9. I lost all my PMs and Emails
10.Who do I owe money too? I lost the info
11. Who sent me this money order? I can?t remember what I sold!

On and on and on..................... way too many to list.

People if you have time to post a FS thread, to receive payment, to receive goods, to reply to all the offers in your threads, and to strike a deal to begin with, you have time to pack your items properly, and ship out in a timely manner. All it takes is a little preparation to begin with. To have your packing materials ready, or even pack in advance if necessary. You should already have a time set aside to deliver the goods to your carrier. And very important is to set aside a few minutes of the day to COMMUNICATE with those with whom you have deals open. IT DOESNT TAKE BUT A SMALL SPACE OF TIME! And maintain an open channel of communication until your transactions are complete.

Why become the topic of a thread that will damage or destroy your reputation? It doesn't take a genius to figure it out my fellow traders! You are slowly but surely making a great opportunity like the forums into a shameful mess that will in time run everyone worth his salt away from here, all because of your lack of responsibility. And that?s all this really amounts to .... taking responsibility for your actions, and implementing a plan to maintain honest, ethical trading practices. You are all old enough to know better, so why act like you need a nursemaid to hold your hand to get the job done?

Your word is your bond, your word is your rep, and your actions speak louder than all the words combined. If you cant maintain and keep your word, and if you can?t meet your obligations, then you have NO business doing business here. PLEASE do everyone a favor, including yourself, and don?t do business where people depend on you to perform your duty to them, and conduct business in a mature and honorable fashion.

Everyone has a burden fall upon them once in a great while, and those rare circumstances can be forgiven. I also know there are few who have had to deal with a much greater burden than I. I am asking you Please to do the right thing. If I can do it, and many other top-notch traders can do it, then you can and MUST! If you don?t, this forum will eventually die, and you will once again be left to the vultures at Ebay, and paying retail for all your hardware needs. DONT BLOW IT!

I hope all of you take this in the mature manner in which I intended to offer it. If the shoe fits wear it......

Terumo

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: quasarsky
and if tfinch thought i was being too hasty, threating retalitory negative heat plus dissing me in this thread is not the way to go. i

only a troll would do this and not try to resolve it. i'm not an unreasonable person at all. i'm so sick of all these attacks on my character. you people in this thread are pathetic.

It was not wise for him to threaten retaliatory heatware, of that I agree.

You made it a public issue by posting in a public place (heatware) about it.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: Terumo

Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Where are these ratings you speak of? AT is one of, if not the best forums for trading.

Google is your friend. If you can't google...

"Anandtech+fraud"

No one can help you

Just to help you out....

From HardForum
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=942522&highlight=anandtech+fraud
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=811553&highlight=anandtech+fraud

From Heatware (random pick)...
http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=18892&expandAll=1

Random internet pick...

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Quote, originally posted by Pred »
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
you sir are a fooking idiot... how hard would it to be to verify an email address that you registered with on this forum to the email address for heatware... dumbasses like you are why people get trolled....
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hey Di 'c' k ever hear of ANANDTECH this is how people on ANAND (Probably the largest FS/FT forums you'll ever see, if you took your head out of your azz) got trolled many many times YEA ITS SO HARD TO SPOOF EMAIL ADDY's TO MATCH A KNOWN ADDY or heatware addy, I know from experience so S T F U.

Modified by jgaud at 8:40 PM 11-20-2003

Post Title: Re: unOFFICIAL Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread (VR6GTIGUY)
Posted by: junkyardjockey at 11:20 PM 11-20-2003
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Random internet search on "Anandtech+Troll"...

http://forums.pcper.com/printthread.php?t=248071&pp=40

And a reminder attributed to an Anandtech member....

Whats this PPPPPP?

It's something I first heard back in my Army days...the 6 Ps and it stands for this...

Prior
Planning
Prevents
P@ss
Poor
Performance

So what?s significant about the 6 Ps here on the ShamikaServer forums? Its all about Integrity, honesty, and performance of duty. It?s about fulfilling your obligations in your transactions here on the forum.

Lately we have seen an alarming number of traders newbie, and veteran alike coming up with lots of excuses for poor performance in their transactions. Among these are ..
1. No money to ship your items.
2. No packing materials.
3. No time, due to other family obligations.
4. Midterms/Finals coming up.
5. I forgot.
6. I don?t spend 24/7 behind my keyboard.
7. I just don?t care.
8. I changed my mind.
9. I lost all my PMs and Emails
10.Who do I owe money too? I lost the info
11. Who sent me this money order? I can?t remember what I sold!

On and on and on..................... way too many to list.

People if you have time to post a FS thread, to receive payment, to receive goods, to reply to all the offers in your threads, and to strike a deal to begin with, you have time to pack your items properly, and ship out in a timely manner. All it takes is a little preparation to begin with. To have your packing materials ready, or even pack in advance if necessary. You should already have a time set aside to deliver the goods to your carrier. And very important is to set aside a few minutes of the day to COMMUNICATE with those with whom you have deals open. IT DOESNT TAKE BUT A SMALL SPACE OF TIME! And maintain an open channel of communication until your transactions are complete.

Why become the topic of a thread that will damage or destroy your reputation? It doesn't take a genius to figure it out my fellow traders! You are slowly but surely making a great opportunity like the forums into a shameful mess that will in time run everyone worth his salt away from here, all because of your lack of responsibility. And that?s all this really amounts to .... taking responsibility for your actions, and implementing a plan to maintain honest, ethical trading practices. You are all old enough to know better, so why act like you need a nursemaid to hold your hand to get the job done?

Your word is your bond, your word is your rep, and your actions speak louder than all the words combined. If you cant maintain and keep your word, and if you can?t meet your obligations, then you have NO business doing business here. PLEASE do everyone a favor, including yourself, and don?t do business where people depend on you to perform your duty to them, and conduct business in a mature and honorable fashion.

Everyone has a burden fall upon them once in a great while, and those rare circumstances can be forgiven. I also know there are few who have had to deal with a much greater burden than I. I am asking you Please to do the right thing. If I can do it, and many other top-notch traders can do it, then you can and MUST! If you don?t, this forum will eventually die, and you will once again be left to the vultures at Ebay, and paying retail for all your hardware needs. DONT BLOW IT!

I hope all of you take this in the mature manner in which I intended to offer it. If the shoe fits wear it......

Terumo[/quote]

Your point is moot. You can type in any trading forum and fraud and look at all the results.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: Terumo

Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Where are these ratings you speak of? AT is one of, if not the best forums for trading.

Google is your friend. If you can't google...

"Anandtech+fraud"

No one can help you

Just to help you out....

From HardForum
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=942522&highlight=anandtech+fraud
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=811553&highlight=anandtech+fraud

From Heatware (random pick)...
http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=18892&expandAll=1

Random internet pick...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Quote, originally posted by Pred »
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
you sir are a fooking idiot... how hard would it to be to verify an email address that you registered with on this forum to the email address for heatware... dumbasses like you are why people get trolled....
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hey Di 'c' k ever hear of ANANDTECH this is how people on ANAND (Probably the largest FS/FT forums you'll ever see, if you took your head out of your azz) got trolled many many times YEA ITS SO HARD TO SPOOF EMAIL ADDY's TO MATCH A KNOWN ADDY or heatware addy, I know from experience so S T F U.

Modified by jgaud at 8:40 PM 11-20-2003

Post Title: Re: unOFFICIAL Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread (VR6GTIGUY)
Posted by: junkyardjockey at 11:20 PM 11-20-2003
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Random internet search on "Anandtech+Troll"...

http://forums.pcper.com/printthread.php?t=248071&pp=40

And a reminder attributed to an Anandtech member....

Whats this PPPPPP?

It's something I first heard back in my Army days...the 6 Ps and it stands for this...

Prior
Planning
Prevents
P@ss
Poor
Performance

So what?s significant about the 6 Ps here on the ShamikaServer forums? Its all about Integrity, honesty, and performance of duty. It?s about fulfilling your obligations in your transactions here on the forum.

Lately we have seen an alarming number of traders newbie, and veteran alike coming up with lots of excuses for poor performance in their transactions. Among these are ..
1. No money to ship your items.
2. No packing materials.
3. No time, due to other family obligations.
4. Midterms/Finals coming up.
5. I forgot.
6. I don?t spend 24/7 behind my keyboard.
7. I just don?t care.
8. I changed my mind.
9. I lost all my PMs and Emails
10.Who do I owe money too? I lost the info
11. Who sent me this money order? I can?t remember what I sold!

On and on and on..................... way too many to list.

People if you have time to post a FS thread, to receive payment, to receive goods, to reply to all the offers in your threads, and to strike a deal to begin with, you have time to pack your items properly, and ship out in a timely manner. All it takes is a little preparation to begin with. To have your packing materials ready, or even pack in advance if necessary. You should already have a time set aside to deliver the goods to your carrier. And very important is to set aside a few minutes of the day to COMMUNICATE with those with whom you have deals open. IT DOESNT TAKE BUT A SMALL SPACE OF TIME! And maintain an open channel of communication until your transactions are complete.

Why become the topic of a thread that will damage or destroy your reputation? It doesn't take a genius to figure it out my fellow traders! You are slowly but surely making a great opportunity like the forums into a shameful mess that will in time run everyone worth his salt away from here, all because of your lack of responsibility. And that?s all this really amounts to .... taking responsibility for your actions, and implementing a plan to maintain honest, ethical trading practices. You are all old enough to know better, so why act like you need a nursemaid to hold your hand to get the job done?

Your word is your bond, your word is your rep, and your actions speak louder than all the words combined. If you cant maintain and keep your word, and if you can?t meet your obligations, then you have NO business doing business here. PLEASE do everyone a favor, including yourself, and don?t do business where people depend on you to perform your duty to them, and conduct business in a mature and honorable fashion.

Everyone has a burden fall upon them once in a great while, and those rare circumstances can be forgiven. I also know there are few who have had to deal with a much greater burden than I. I am asking you Please to do the right thing. If I can do it, and many other top-notch traders can do it, then you can and MUST! If you don?t, this forum will eventually die, and you will once again be left to the vultures at Ebay, and paying retail for all your hardware needs. DONT BLOW IT!

I hope all of you take this in the mature manner in which I intended to offer it. If the shoe fits wear it......

Terumo

Your point is moot. You can type in any trading forum and fraud and look at all the results.[/quote]

Don't worry, she's quoting from the HardForums of all places. A FS/FT forum that allows known trolls from AT to continue their trading over there.

 

[OdiN]

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