So if the bad over the last 4 years was due to Bush

[Hayabusa Rider]

Does now mark the start of Obama's accountability?

 

[Atreus21]

hahaha.

No. It doesn't.

 

[DaveSimmons]

We haven't fully recovered from Bush's recession and we're still in Bush's Afghanistan war.

I'd say most other problems are Obama's now.

 

[NoStateofMind]

What? You are expecting someone in politics to accept responsibility?

EDIT: *BANG* *BANG* "This darn sarcasm meter is broken!" *BANG* *BANG*

 

[boomerang]

Absofuckinglutely not! You already knew the answer to that one. Anything that happens in the next four is still a direct result of Bush policies. He's the gift that keeps on giving. You can't turn a big ship around that fast - especially when it's sinking.

Let's hope Obama sees the bigger picture in term two. I was laughing out loud today hearing the sound bites of him doing his shtick - saying he's open to new ideas. Deja-vu.

 

[yllus]

You really can't judge these things based on time span alone. You can fault Obama for doing a poor job of correcting what Bush did and hold him accountable for that, but it's hardly fair to lay the cause of the recession and war(s) at his feet. They will forever be Bush's follies.

 

[blackangst1]

lol OP

 

[hal2kilo]

lol OP

Been a changed person since ACA passed.

Edit:And more bitter now that Boener has said repeal is off the table now.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

We haven't fully recovered from Bush's recession and we're still in Bush's Afghanistan war.

I'd say most other problems are Obama's now.

And Iraq and Medicare Part D and No Child...

 

[boomerang]

You really can't judge these things based on time span alone. You can fault Obama for doing a poor job of correcting what Bush did and hold him accountable for that, but it's hardly fair to lay the cause of the recession and war(s) at his feet. They will forever be Bush's follies.

The point of the thread is that he will be held accountable for nothing. You've been here long enough to know that.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Does now mark the start of Obama's accountability?

It depends on what happens...everybody knows this.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Does now mark the start of Obama's accountability?

It was clinton bill that caused houseing bubble not Bush , Obama ran in 08 on promise of ending all wars in 16 months . So ya this is all obama and clinton now .

 

[Attic]

Why be accountable when your base thinks it's opposition are stupid racists? Accountability is not what got him reelected.

 

[randomrogue]

Does now mark the start of Obama's accountability?

Obvious troll bait.

Everyone knows that Bush fucked up more than can be solved in 4 years let alone 10.

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

We haven't fully recovered from Bush's recession and we're still in Bush's Afghanistan war.

I'd say most other problems are Obama's now.

Plus the other wars and shit he has gotten us into. He has had 4 years to pull us out of the war. He should have gotten at most 1 year of blaming Bush.

Now he is just going to blame the fucking house for stonewalling.

Meanwhile that motherfucker has his pen ready to raise my taxes.

I know, evil rich. People talk about how so few have amassed so much. Billionaires out there paying low taxes. Well, guess what? They have already amassed their riches, so taxing them isn't going to do shit. Nope, instead you need money from me.

My thought is that everyone in this country should have skin in the game and owe, at a minimum, $100/year in federal taxes. No refunds. You MUST pay to live in America, even if a token amount. What is the argument against this?

 

[jackstar7]

Plus the other wars and shit he has gotten us into. He has had 4 years to pull us out of the war. He should have gotten at most 1 year of blaming Bush.

Now he is just going to blame the fucking house for stonewalling.

Meanwhile that motherfucker has his pen ready to raise my taxes.

I know, evil rich. People talk about how so few have amassed so much. Billionaires out there paying low taxes. Well, guess what? They have already amassed their riches, so taxing them isn't going to do shit. Nope, instead you need money from me.

My thought is that everyone in this country should have skin in the game and owe, at a minimum, $100/year in federal taxes. No refunds. You MUST pay to live in America, even if a token amount. What is the argument against this?

So why did Republicans cut taxes so often so as to create the largest base of people with "no skin in the game" if they were so insistent that those people have skin in the game? I think your beef is with Reagan.

Also, why call him an MF?

Also, shouldn't we see if the house does stonewall his agenda before ascribing blame?

It's nice that you've got your victimhood scenario all laid out though. Forward thinking there.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Obvious troll bait.

Everyone knows that Bush fucked up more than can be solved in 4 years let alone 10.

You mean clinton don't let facts get in the way

 

[Nemesis 1]

Plus the other wars and shit he has gotten us into. He has had 4 years to pull us out of the war. He should have gotten at most 1 year of blaming Bush.

Now he is just going to blame the fucking house for stonewalling.

Meanwhile that motherfucker has his pen ready to raise my taxes.

I know, evil rich. People talk about how so few have amassed so much. Billionaires out there paying low taxes. Well, guess what? They have already amassed their riches, so taxing them isn't going to do shit. Nope, instead you need money from me.

My thought is that everyone in this country should have skin in the game and owe, at a minimum, $100/year in federal taxes. No refunds. You MUST pay to live in America, even if a token amount. What is the argument against this?

Well if you add in you have to feed and cloth yourself I can live with that . NO more welfare I am all in.

 

[dank69]

Plus the other wars and shit he has gotten us into. He has had 4 years to pull us out of the war. He should have gotten at most 1 year of blaming Bush.

Now he is just going to blame the fucking house for stonewalling.

Meanwhile that motherfucker has his pen ready to raise my taxes.

I know, evil rich. People talk about how so few have amassed so much. Billionaires out there paying low taxes. Well, guess what? They have already amassed their riches, so taxing them isn't going to do shit. Nope, instead you need money from me.

My thought is that everyone in this country should have skin in the game and owe, at a minimum, $100/year in federal taxes. No refunds. You MUST pay to live in America, even if a token amount. What is the argument against this?

Boo hoo hoo Obama be takin an additional $12k in taxes from your $550,000 income oh boo hoo hoo oh me oh my the horror boo hoo hoo.

 

[jagec]

My thought is that everyone in this country should have skin in the game and owe, at a minimum, $100/year in federal taxes. No refunds. You MUST pay to live in America, even if a token amount. What is the argument against this?

Social security taxes, payroll taxes, sales taxes, gasoline taxes, and property taxes (which are passed on to renters as well, so don't pretend they're getting off easy) don't count?

 

[etrigan420]

You mean clinton don't let facts get in the way

...don't let facts get in the way

...don't let facts get in the way

And the finalists for "Ironic Post of the Year" are...

 

[Lanyap]

Bush blame will last for years. If a repub wins next time and things start getting better they will still blame Bush because Obama could not get it going in 8 years.

 

[Nintendesert]

We haven't fully recovered from Bush's recession and we're still in Bush's Afghanistan war.

I'd say most other problems are Obama's now.

Right right, Bush's Afghanistan war. Not like the Congress voted for it or anything. :sneaky:

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Obvious troll bait.

Everyone knows that Bush fucked up more than can be solved in 4 years let alone 10.

Then I caught a lot of trolls.

While I know what Bush was responsible for that does not give an unlimited pass in all things, which is something I wonder about. Will the Dems hold their own as accountable as the Reps did there's? You bet! No, not a typo. It's always someone else's fault and sometimes that's true. Not for all things and not forever though.

What I did set out to do is poke some people back who have been taunting the Republicans mercilessly. Most of that is deserved, but I was curious if even a little jab could be taken after a whole lot was dished out. I suspected not, and it seems that in some cases that was a correct assumption.

 

[zinfamous]

nope.

All Romney's fault for the next 4 years.

(remember, PJABBER proclaimed, more than a month ago, that this country is already under the effective leadership of Romney & Ryan).