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Lifer
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Hey weren't you the guy who said there wasn't going to be an election this year? How did that go?

Well actually the election didn't go well . Sad you choose this road . But it wouldn't of been much better the other way either. Damn if you people shouldn't get what you want with mans oversight. Your wise! To put so much faith in a man who is so secretive about his life and job as leader of Amecia. Whos given us 2 things in 4 years. Besides a 15 trillion dollar debt Is obama robbery and 800 billion dollar bank bailout when the people were expecting the bail out.

I can't wait to see whats up Mr, Wisdars sleeve next . But I do think you people have earned it.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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He worked his ass off to argue BP into setting up a $20 billion fund which bypasses the slowness of the courts and the leeching of lawyers. Money ended directly in the hands of those affected in a matter of days and weeks rather than taking decades of appeals with lawyers pocketing 50% of the final cut. All this without onerous restrictions on the acceptance of money -- only in accepting the final settlement do you have to waive your right to sue.

Instead of leaving the government with huge welfare rolls as businesses collapsed, Obama got BP to fund the damages as determined by an independent third-party so those businesses could make it through, rather destroying the conservatard delusion that "Democrats want everyone reliant on government."


Why the fuck am I even taking a conservatard seriously? This is a waste of my time.

And I'm talking to a 6 day Creationist. Do you believe that Obama sat down at his desk and did all this? Well he must have flown in and personally saved ATT from the big bad promises he made. Yeah he came up with all that? Then how comes we had such simplistic solutions otherwise? Did he leave his Power Pill home that day? Are you aiming for a position as bishop or cardinal in the movement? Perhaps the Inquisition? He's certainly better than Bush, but if your nose wasn't brown before the last election it sure is now.

Too bad you haven't thought this out. Moonbeam quoted a favorite poem. I'll do something for you.

Oh, I don't care for the Reps, but if you could read you would have known that. Like the "conservatard" you assume that my giving your Lord a licking in a way he wouldn't like means I have to pick the other side. I suppose that independents are smarter than partisans. Oh well. BTW, I don't object to Obama as much as I do those who act as if he should stand for sainthood. What a hypocrite.

Your treat.

He's super cereal, really.
 

DominionSeraph

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Well, I backed up my statements with valid facts and links

You attempted to perpetrate that an opinion of the HANDLING OF MEANINGLESS IMAGE in the beginning of the crisis materially modifies the judgement of the real outcome. Jesus fucking Christ. How the hell is a response as stupid as that supposed to warrant a serious reply by someone of my talents? It is so far beneath me that it is deserving of nothing but denigration.

Yay Miku!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrQ6shnyFSM
 

Svnla

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You attempted to perpetrate that an opinion of the HANDLING OF MEANINGLESS IMAGE in the beginning of the crisis materially modifies the judgement of the real outcome. Jesus fucking Christ. How the hell is a response as stupid as that supposed to warrant a serious reply by someone of my talents? It is so far beneath me that it is deserving of nothing but denigration.

Yay Miku!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrQ6shnyFSM

You brag about how BO saved the Gulf Coast, I provided links from liberal news sources about how the real savior did.

Your talents? Now that's rich, thanks for the laugh.

I am done with you, feel free to post more YouTube links and nothing to dispute my links.
 

DominionSeraph

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And I'm talking to a 6 day Creationist. Do you believe that Obama sat down at his desk and did all this? Well he must have flown in and personally saved ATT from the big bad promises he made. Yeah he came up with all that? Then how comes we had such simplistic solutions otherwise? Did he leave his Power Pill home that day? Are you aiming for a position as bishop or cardinal in the movement? Perhaps the Inquisition? He's certainly better than Bush, but if your nose wasn't brown before the last election it sure is now.

Wow, having to respond to the truth broke Hayabusa.

Damn I'm good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL76j5qVqas
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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Wow, having to respond to the truth broke Hayabusa.

Damn I'm good.

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As far as truth. I'm glad you believe in ponies too. As far as break, I'm having a most excellent laugh at you. You want to explain how your lord and savior pulled all that off on your own? Did those workers in the coast have little icons of your god which enabled them to do their job even better? Hint, FEMA worked as it should have and Obama didn't screw it up at all. It was well handled, but you seem to think that basic competency is praiseworthy.

Saint Ron on the dresser and Saint Obama on the dashboard. Figures.
 

DominionSeraph

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As far as truth. I'm glad you believe in ponies too. As far as break, I'm having a most excellent laugh at you. You want to explain how your lord and savior pulled all that off on your own? Did those workers in the coast have little icons of your god which enabled them to do their job even better? Hint, FEMA worked as it should have and Obama didn't screw it up at all. It was well handled, but you seem to think that basic competency is praiseworthy.

Saint Ron on the dresser and Saint Obama on the dashboard. Figures.

And he's still so broken he can't put together complete sentences. Talk about a blow out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcQOagEOnkc
 
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piasabird

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Could of, Would of, Should of. This is now and O'Bammah is King. I say wait a while and find out if the King has no Clothes. Now the King has to convince Congress with both obnoxious Democrats and obnoxious republicans to actually resolve these Temporary Tax Cuts that Bush Left Us.

Will they expire?

Will he make a deal?

Will we see another Great Depression?

Who Knows?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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And he's still so broken he can't write in complete sentences. Talk about a blow out.

Well...
You are such a hack that you can't recognize weaknesses in your own party, nor construct a thread or post which offers any ideas or solutions, but do remarkably well in posting about your objectivity and intelligence. There are people who are worth talking to, like Charles, or Moonbeam, or Bowfinger among several others that could be named. None of those are "consevertards" but they have the ability to communicate, instead of spout. You haven't contributed an idea worth note that I can recall, but you do try to attack with contrived terms that you couldn't back up if your life depended on it. Oh yeah I said we should not tax. Oh, no I didn't say that, too bad. I oppose health care reform. OOPs, I oppose careless and half assed inferior planning, but I do call for intelligent planned action. You missed that, or perhaps it's beyond your superior knowledge?

Seriously child, you are dismissed. If you grow up and can ever hold a conversation other than to tell us how smart you are or how dumb someone else is or about ponies, get back to us. We'll see if you can cut it.

You are dismissed.
 
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DominionSeraph

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Well...
You are such a hack that you can't recognize weaknesses in your own party

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! As though someone with an ego the size of mine goes around subordinating himself?

Others are only judged to have equaled me when they manage to accomplish it. Don't blame me that conservatards are deficient and that Obama is actually competent -- I didn't make either that way. If Obama was a drooling idiot and you were erudite and enlightened, I'd judge you both as such. But neither is the way the relevant evidence presents itself, and I have to go with what reality says.
 
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DominionSeraph

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No, Twilight would just think that everyone is deserving of a concerted effort. But when faced with people who perceive anything outside their sphere as evil or a priori incoherent -- "The Earth isn't 6000 years old? That's blasphemy!" "High school dropout conservatives might not be right? But then how can any of us know what's true?!?" -- and so have no desire whatsoever to peek at the world outside their delusions, what's the point in putting any effort into them?
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. And if the horse is yelling loudly, "I DO NOT NEED TO DRINK BECAUSE MY FAILURES IN EDUCATION MEAN MY PERCEPTION HASN'T BEEN SULLIED BY EVIL LIBRUL LIES AND SO I CAN SEE EVERYTHING WITH PERFECT CLARITY JUST DON'T ASK ME WHY MY ANSWERS ARE ALWAYS SO KINDERGARTEN-ESQUE I GUESS THAT'S JUST ONE OF LIFE'S MYSTERIES," there's really no point with the 'leading to water' part.
 

jackstar7

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So anyone not drinking the kool-aid has obviously been chugging the hater-ade. Awesome.

Good place from which to start a conversation.
 

Binarycow

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Next time trash your house like a rock star in a hotel room, trash it from the front door to the back porch, then ask the maid service people to have it cleaned up it in 20 minutes and see what they will tell you.
 

monovillage

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LMAO, what a hilarious post, thanks Hayabusa. We can all see that no matter what happens only perceived good things will be laid at Obama's feet, anything negative will be blamed on Bush, Reagan, apple pie and an obstructionist Congress.
Almost makes you think this Onion piece was prescient.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/media-having-trouble-finding-right-angle-on-obamas,2703/

WASHINGTON—More than a week after President Barack Obama's cold-blooded killing of a local couple, members of the American news media admitted Tuesday that they were still trying to find the best angle for covering the gruesome crime.
 

JEDIYoda

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Plus the other wars and shit he has gotten us into. He has had 4 years to pull us out of the war. He should have gotten at most 1 year of blaming Bush.

Now he is just going to blame the fucking house for stonewalling.

Meanwhile that motherfucker has his pen ready to raise my taxes.

I know, evil rich. People talk about how so few have amassed so much. Billionaires out there paying low taxes. Well, guess what? They have already amassed their riches, so taxing them isn't going to do shit. Nope, instead you need money from me.

My thought is that everyone in this country should have skin in the game and owe, at a minimum, $100/year in federal taxes. No refunds. You MUST pay to live in America, even if a token amount. What is the argument against this?
awww....still hurting in the ass from Obama winning the POTUS....
 

JEDIYoda

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Well actually the election didn't go well . Sad you choose this road . But it wouldn't of been much better the other way either. Damn if you people shouldn't get what you want with mans oversight. Your wise! To put so much faith in a man who is so secretive about his life and job as leader of Amecia. Whos given us 2 things in 4 years. Besides a 15 trillion dollar debt Is obama robbery and 800 billion dollar bank bailout when the people were expecting the bail out.

I can't wait to see whats up Mr, Wisdars sleeve next . But I do think you people have earned it.
truth hurts...huh...
 

JEDIYoda

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JEDIYoda

Lifer
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Could of, Would of, Should of. This is now and O'Bammah is King. I say wait a while and find out if the King has no Clothes. Now the King has to convince Congress with both obnoxious Democrats and obnoxious republicans to actually resolve these Temporary Tax Cuts that Bush Left Us.

Will they expire?

Will he make a deal?

Will we see another Great Depression?

Who Knows?
actually it is the republicans who need to mend fences and stop being obstructionists...
 

Moonbeam

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By the way M, you are probably somewhat amused, at least I hope so. It turned out heavier than I intended, but I should have correctly calibrated for partisanship. There's not many who can take a poke, mores the pity.

Anyway, something constructive. The sourdough is coming along. Tomorrow I take the rye starter and make this.

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Found at this most excellent forum. Democrats and republicans welcome :D

Those look great. I spent many nights a while back reading up on bread ovens and how to get good French bread crust using steam. Would love to try something as a combo wok, tandoori and pizza bread machine using clay, propane and a venturi burner. I like Naan, pizza, bread and food what gots Hei.
 
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You really can't judge these things based on time span alone. You can fault Obama for doing a poor job of correcting what Bush did and hold him accountable for that, but it's hardly fair to lay the cause of the recession and war(s) at his feet. They will forever be Bush's follies.

People also seem to conveniently forget that the House is controlled by the Republicans and that Obama cannot pass legislation on his own.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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People also seem to conveniently forget that the House is controlled by the Republicans and that Obama cannot pass legislation on his own.

Obama doesn't pass legislation, however that would have been the case with Bush. Obviously Iraq belonged to Bush, but laws are made by Congress. The loose use of terminology has some real basis that I'll get into as I have time.