Slow driver in fast lane

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: AlienCraft
It is not mandatory to yield for someone exceeding the speed limit who is not properly displaying emergency vehicle warning lights.

Can you show me some proof of that?

I live in New Jersey, and here you MUST yield to faster moving vehicles, even if that vehicle is breaking the law. It is not your job to judge whether he is speeding or not, that is the police's job. All you need to worry about is MOVING for the person who is trying to pass you.

Besides, it is against the law to STAY in the left lane. You are not allowed to cruise along in the left lane. It doesn't matter whether someone's trying to pass you or not, and it doesn't matter how fast they are going if they are. You are NOT allowed to stay in the left lane... it's a passing lane only.

Good Try.

Proof of what , A law That I says I don't have to pull over for someone speeding? That's ludicrious. Laws aren't worded as such.

The law in question, which is standard to all 50 states is "The Basic Speed Law" wherein it is illegal to drive faster than road conditions will permit. That does not allow you to exceed the posted speed limit.
It is not my responsibility to pull over just because someone wants to tailgate and speed. If it is unsafe for me to do so, you can just wait.
You cannot force someone to engage in unsafe lane changes or speed simply because you decide to speed and tailgate and engage in unsafe behavior.
In CA. , one is only mandated to pull over to allow vehicles to pass if there are more than 5 vehicles behind you and you are NOT at the maximum speed limit. Campers, trucks going uphill, that sort of thing.
The law isn't there to allow you to turn the road into Sebring.....

Nice try , yourself.
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[CraigRT]

Slow driver in fast lane

biggest pet peeve of all time

 

[Dragnov]

Today in the carpool lane traffic was backed up behind a driver going 40mph for no apparent reason. Yay.

 

[glugglug]

I really hated driving in Orlando, where most people are pacing each other to block both lanes at 20 if that, maybe 30 on the highway.

3 things to help you out in getting around these idiots:
1. The median is a decent passing lane
2. Sometimes, so is the sidewalk
3. Most of the pokeys are apparently afraid of water. I first figured this out when I noticed they slam on the brakes and skid off the road as soon as the first few raindrops start to fall. The purchase of a CPS2000 (high end super-soaker) lowered my average commute to and from work from an hour to about 25 minutes. Laser pointer (red dot) helps you keep from having to actually use the water on those who don't see the super soaker in their mirror... usually.

P.S. I actually passed a couple ambulances that had the siren on there when I was JOGGING. No, they weren't stuck in traffic, I'm talking like 2AM. That's just the way people drive there.

Actual quote from the first page of the Ford Escort owner's manual bought there:

"WARNING! Driving with the parking brake on will reduce gas mileage and increase break wear." Yes, its needed. There are A LOT of people who never turn off their parking break and don't seem to realize the car has a gas pedal.

 

[Marshallj]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Proof of what , A law That I says I don't have to pull over for someone speeding? That's ludicrious. Laws aren't worded as such.

The law in question, which is standard to all 50 states is "The Basic Speed Law" wherein it is illegal to drive faster than road conditions will permit. That does not allow you to exceed the posted speed limit.
It is not my responsibility to pull over just because someone wants to tailgate and speed. If it is unsafe for me to do so, you can just wait.
You cannot force someone to engage in unsafe lane changes or speed simply because you decide to speed and tailgate and engage in unsafe behavior.
In CA. , one is only mandated to pull over to allow vehicles to pass if there are more than 5 vehicles behind you and you are NOT at the maximum speed limit. Campers, trucks going uphill, that sort of thing.
The law isn't there to allow you to turn the road into Sebring.....

Nice try , yourself.
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Thanks for COMPLETELY missing the point!

The law states that you CANNOT cruise along in the passing lane. It is for passing ONLY. Regardless of what you may think, you CANNOT just drive around in the passing lane and stay there, while people are trying to pass you. It is for PASSING, hence it is called the PASSING LANE.

 

[Marshallj]

People like you are the reason that the highway is such a congested thorofare. You guys somehow think you are "justified" holding up and blocking traffic. If you see someone trying to pass you, don't you at least attempt to move for them or do you just hold them up because you don't think they should pass you?

 

[milagro]

Originally posted by: brxndxn
Damn.. people just need to understand that some cars have the potential to be going a lot faster than others..

For example, I'm I'm going 100mph and the road is nearly empty, and I'm in a Camaro, I am driving much safer than say a Ford Explorer going 80mph in the same circumstance.. In a Camaro going 100, I can break faster and turn sharper than an Explorer going 80mph.

Get the fvck out of my way if you see a Red Camaro Z28 behind you and you're going slow!

what if I'm an explorer going 80? you're the one that can break faster and turn sharper so you do the work

that ZV dude is right on...if you're in the left lane on a two lane road, you better be passing someone. If someone is behind you while you're passing someone. You better make a safe concerted effort to finish your pass and get the f7ck back in the right lane..

You know where they really understand this concept? europe...at least spain and germany from my experience...

 

[Lithium381]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: masterxfob

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Ylen13
I hate when people don't understand that the reason fast lane is called that way is that it?s the lane were people like to go fast.

It's NOT a "fast lane". It's a PASSING LANE.

ZV

it IS a fast lane, just that slugs like you are always occupying them!

This "slug" sets the cruise at 75, thank you. Your desire for it to be a "fast lane" does not, however, change the fact that it is not now, nor has it ever been, a "fast lane".

On a road that has two lanes in the same direction, the right lane is the driving lane and the left lane is only for passing. All vehicles are expected to keep right unless actively passing another vehicle. On roads where there are three lanes in one direction, the centre lane is the driving lane, the right lane is the truck lane, and the left lane is the passing lane yet again. Normal traffic is expected to remain in the centre lane, moving to the left lane only when actively passing another vehicle. The right lane is for semis and other vehicles that are traveling at less than 65 mph.

Just because most of the population has had piss-poor drivers' education does not change the actual rules of the road.

It's also worth noting that even when speeding, you stand less risk of a ticket when you try to stay in the right or centre lanes.

ZV

on the money! while maybe not the law, some people just aren't courtious of other people on the road

 

[Marshallj]

Originally posted by: Lithium381
[on the money! while maybe not the law, some people just aren't courtious of other people on the road

Exactly.

Some people are self-centered and they justify it in their own mind to hold up traffic behind them. They say to themselves "I'm doing the speed limit and NOBODY should pass me".

Unfortunately for them that's not the law, and they can be pulled over if they obstruct traffic like that.

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: cmv
I wrote a big reply but I deleted it before I posted it because it was too long and personal! Basically I agree with you that such drivers are highly annoying. But this week I learned an important lesson about how letting these things get to you can cause harm to others. I didn't get in an accident, or even get a ticket or get stopped, but I let this one driver get the better of me and in the end I was the loser. If someone won't let you pass and they violate the law, which requires slower vehicles to move to the right no matter whether the person approaching is speeding, it is better to just take the Ghandi route and wait them out through patience.

The fact of the matter is that too many petty people who hate anyone driving faster than them will continue to drive in the left lane. I'm sure the devil has reserved a special place in hell for them.

very true, cmv. i drive fast when i can, but when i can't, i don't let it get my panties in a twist, although sometimes it takes a few deeps breaths here and there.

as for the comment about the driver being a female, i haven't seen any sex tendancy one way or the other. if anything it's more males who do this, because they think it's some assult to their masculinity if someone wants to drive faster than them so they won't move... on a side note, the most aggressive and fastest driver i've ever known was female.

 

[Ns1]

k i just watched that video, while i have to say WOW for him not hitting anything....

he's a fvcking moron

some of the sht he pulls is just too crazy for public roads

 

[jteef]

they should really teach the flash to pass thing in the US. Most people I try it with take it as an insult or plain just don't know what i'm trying to do rather than a friendly reminder that the right lane is empty and they need to vacate the left ASAP. It works best when you're at least 500 yards back when you start flashing, because then they sometimes think you're an emergency vehicle and move over.

Also, around here I normally never leave the left lane because the right lane is just a POS with massive amounts of shoddy repairs, bumps, dips, etc.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: Lithium381
[on the money! while maybe not the law, some people just aren't courtious of other people on the road

Exactly.

Some people are self-centered and they justify it in their own mind to hold up traffic behind them. They say to themselves "I'm doing the speed limit and NOBODY should pass me".

Unfortunately for them that's not the law, and they can be pulled over if they obstruct traffic like that.

LOL, RIGHT Try that again slowly....
If they're doing the speed limit, NO COP is going to pull them over, no matter how many people are behind them.
What they are saying is " if you want to speed go around and do it, I'm operating my vehicle in a reasonable and safe manner, I do not have to help you break the law."
Slow down, or go around, you have choices, too.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Proof of what , A law That I says I don't have to pull over for someone speeding? That's ludicrious. Laws aren't worded as such.

The law in question, which is standard to all 50 states is "The Basic Speed Law" wherein it is illegal to drive faster than road conditions will permit. That does not allow you to exceed the posted speed limit.
It is not my responsibility to pull over just because someone wants to tailgate and speed. If it is unsafe for me to do so, you can just wait.
You cannot force someone to engage in unsafe lane changes or speed simply because you decide to speed and tailgate and engage in unsafe behavior.
In CA. , one is only mandated to pull over to allow vehicles to pass if there are more than 5 vehicles behind you and you are NOT at the maximum speed limit. Campers, trucks going uphill, that sort of thing.
The law isn't there to allow you to turn the road into Sebring.....

Nice try , yourself.
CA Driving Tutorial

Thanks for COMPLETELY missing the point!

The law states that you CANNOT cruise along in the passing lane. It is for passing ONLY. Regardless of what you may think, you CANNOT just drive around in the passing lane and stay there, while people are trying to pass you. It is for PASSING, hence it is called the PASSING LANE.

Thanks for ignoring the point.
California law, insofar as I know, is different in this respect.
And given that all of the lanes may be filled with traffic, if I think it is safer for me to drive a little slower than you do, well, get over it. Or go around, or not, I don't care. I'm responsible for MY actions, not yours. I'm not your pit crew or your draft car.
I know of no provision that says that vehicles which are engaged in breaking the speed limit or driving recklessly are entitled to drive in an intimidating manner and any one in front of them had better watch out.
I just hope you keep your insurance paid up. And carry lots of it.....

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: Lithium381
[on the money! while maybe not the law, some people just aren't courtious of other people on the road

Exactly.

Some people are self-centered and they justify it in their own mind to hold up traffic behind them. They say to themselves "I'm doing the speed limit and NOBODY should pass me".

Unfortunately for them that's not the law, and they can be pulled over if they obstruct traffic like that.

you're not obstructing traffic driving the speed limit. you have to be driving significantly slower than the speed limit to be obstructing traffic.

 

[TNTrulez]

Originally posted by: glugglug
I really hated driving in Orlando, where most people are pacing each other to block both lanes at 20 if that, maybe 30 on the highway.

3 things to help you out in getting around these idiots:
1. The median is a decent passing lane
2. Sometimes, so is the sidewalk
3. Most of the pokeys are apparently afraid of water. I first figured this out when I noticed they slam on the brakes and skid off the road as soon as the first few raindrops start to fall. The purchase of a CPS2000 (high end super-soaker) lowered my average commute to and from work from an hour to about 25 minutes. Laser pointer (red dot) helps you keep from having to actually use the water on those who don't see the super soaker in their mirror... usually.

P.S. I actually passed a couple ambulances that had the siren on there when I was JOGGING. No, they weren't stuck in traffic, I'm talking like 2AM. That's just the way people drive there.

Actual quote from the first page of the Ford Escort owner's manual bought there:

"WARNING! Driving with the parking brake on will reduce gas mileage and increase break wear." Yes, its needed. There are A LOT of people who never turn off their parking break and don't seem to realize the car has a gas pedal.

Haha you serious? Those idiots

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: jteef
they should really teach the flash to pass thing in the US. Most people I try it with take it as an insult or plain just don't know what i'm trying to do rather than a friendly reminder that the right lane is empty and they need to vacate the left ASAP. It works best when you're at least 500 yards back when you start flashing, because then they sometimes think you're an emergency vehicle and move over.

Also, around here I normally never leave the left lane because the right lane is just a POS with massive amounts of shoddy repairs, bumps, dips, etc.

I agree. If the "Flash to Pass/ move to the right" were more regimented in terms of education and enforcement of laws were more diligent and uniform, as it is in Europe, I think we would see better (less) traffic accident incident rates. If you've ever seen "Worst Drivers" TV shows, it seems to me that the enforcement of traffic violations is more uniform and requirements for getting a license is very strict. Testing, constant proof of insurance and vehicle mechanical tests are common from what I've gathered.
In the US, we let anybody get a license(like that's stopped anyone) and drive practically any piece of crap that will fire up and run.
I noticed that the drivers in Spain did the "Flash to pass" thing.
BTW I tend to stay in the #2 lane unless there is a median and traffic is heavy, then I get over to give myself someplace to dive out to if someone slams the brakes.

 

[Marshallj]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Thanks for ignoring the point.
California law, insofar as I know, is different in this respect.
And given that all of the lanes may be filled with traffic, if I think it is safer for me to drive a little slower than you do, well, get over it. Or go around, or not, I don't care. I'm responsible for MY actions, not yours. I'm not your pit crew or your draft car.
I know of no provision that says that vehicles which are engaged in breaking the speed limit or driving recklessly are entitled to drive in an intimidating manner and any one in front of them had better watch out.

You are entirely missing the point...

Regardless if there is ANYONE behind you or not, you are not allowed to drive in the passing lane. It's for passing ONLY. Even if it's a clear night with nobody on the road but you, you are NOT allowed to just stay in the passing line.


PS- Where did I say that I'm racing anyone or breaking any laws? You ASSUMED that I must want to break laws if I tell you that you are not allowed to cruise in the passing lane.

 

[Marshallj]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
you're not obstructing traffic driving the speed limit. you have to be driving significantly slower than the speed limit to be obstructing traffic.

You're missing the point. You are not allowed to drive in the passing lane at all, no matter what speed you're going. That lane is for passing only.

Nobody is justified to cruise along in the passing lane.

 

[Marshallj]

Read this:

There's a law against hogging the passing lane


"many drivers don't seem to know about the law and express surprise when they're ticketed for failing to return to a lane after passing"

"You'd be surprised at how little people look in their rear-view mirror," Hunter said.

She attributed the trend to an inexplicable reluctance of many motorists to yield to others, perhaps because more people are doing work in their cars, talking on cell phones or answering pagers.

The patrol is particularly sensitive to lane violations because they can lead to "road rage," spokesman Jack Sareault said.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: ElFenix
you're not obstructing traffic driving the speed limit. you have to be driving significantly slower than the speed limit to be obstructing traffic.

You're missing the point. You are not allowed to drive in the passing lane at all, no matter what speed you're going. That lane is for passing only.

Nobody is justified to cruise along in the passing lane.

in texas we don't have a passing lane, unless its marked as such.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: Marshallj
You are entirely missing the point...
Regardless if there is ANYONE behind you or not, you are not allowed to drive in the passing lane. It's for passing ONLY. Even if it's a clear night with nobody on the road but you, you are NOT allowed to just stay in the passing line.
PS- Where did I say that I'm racing anyone or breaking any laws? You ASSUMED that I must want to break laws if I tell you that you are not allowed to cruise in the passing lane.

This is from your Very First Post....

I was coming home right now and was doing a good 80 mph or so and a car was in front me doing about 65 speed limit....

Is there still something I missed about you breaking the speed limit? Or do you get a special permit to do 80???

This a prime example of two wrongs not making a right. Regardless of her actions, you were violating the speed limit and putting everyone at risk.
Driving is a privilege, not a right. With it comes a social responsibility to obey the stated regulations and limits. It's those who cannot work within those regulations and limits who create problems at both ends of the spectrum. That is why there are "impeding traffic" laws as well as "reckless driving" ones.
Apparently she just wasn't going fast enough for you, sounds like no reason to get excited.

Statistics show, more often than not, speeding increase your chances of being injured or suffering property damage.

Yet another statistic laden piece from somebody whose business auto accidents and their causes is....

 

[Marshallj]

Yield to passing vehicles

Except when passing on the right is permitted, the driver of an overtaken vehicle shall safely move to the right-hand side of the highway in favor of the overtaking vehicle after an audible signal or a momentary flash of headlights by the overtaking vehicle, and shall not increase the speed of his or her vehicle until completely passed by the overtaking vehicle.

 

[Lithium381]

If i get over to pass the middle lane in the mornings, i jump over to the carpool(since my bro is in the car) and normal traffic is going 55/60ish.....i chug along at about 75......considering the speed limit is 65, i'd say that's fairly reasonable......yet some people tailgate me....if there is a lot of room in front of me.i check the adjacent lane and merge over, allowing them to pass, then get back over....if they'll just get stopped 20 ft ahead due to another car, i don't bother.. i hate getting stuck behind slow cars, and i try to be compassionate........

 

[Marshallj]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft
This is from your Very First Post....

I was coming home right now and was doing a good 80 mph or so and a car was in front me doing about 65 speed limit....

Is there still something I missed about you breaking the speed limit? Or do you get a special permit to do 80???

Yes, there is something you missed... such as the name of the poster. Check it out, that wasn't me.