Originally posted by: Spyro
LOL, is this a reference to your young, opiniated thread
That is a different thread. Are we supposed to dig up times when you've lost it and use that as an excuse to be disrespectful to you now? Of course not. That was in the past.
Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: Spyro
LOL, is this a reference to your young, opiniated thread
That is a different thread. Are we supposed to dig up times when you've lost it and use that as an excuse to be disrespectful to you now? Of course not. That was in the past.
Did you want to address my argument or not?
#1- The original poster was not in Alabama
#2- I am not in Alabama
#- The people that I was replying to were not in Alabama
Next thing you know, someone will be posting laws for Germany or Bangledesh.... all of which mean about as much to a California driver as Alabama laws do.
Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: Spyro
LOL, is this a reference to your young, opiniated thread
That is a different thread. Are we supposed to dig up times when you've lost it and use that as an excuse to be disrespectful to you now? Of course not. That was in the past.
Ehhh? Who me? Lost it? Lost what??
I'm always cool
your a moron
You admit breaking the law, but you dont realize a crash due to you speeding will involve not just you but others as well.....and delay my drive to/from work because they will close down lanes
i bet it doesnt matter how fast the person is going because it will never be as fast as you want them to go.
Your one of those get out my way or ill tailgate you type of drivers that also like to zip in and out of lanes...
and yes i drive the southern calif freeways everyday, and if your behind me tailgating me because your late and im going 65-75 like everyone else expect me to slow down and flash my break lights everyso often and speed up when you try to pass me cuz im not let u pass.
You admit breaking the law, but you dont realize a crash due to you speeding will involve not just you but others as well.....and delay my drive to/from work because they will close down lanes
i bet it doesnt matter how fast the person is going because it will never be as fast as you want them to go.
Your one of those get out my way or ill tailgate you type of drivers that also like to zip in and out of lanes...
and yes i drive the southern calif freeways everyday, and if your behind me tailgating me because your late and im going 65-75 like everyone else expect me to slow down and flash my break lights everyso often and speed up when you try to pass me cuz im not let u pass.
Ok, we'll talk Alabama law for a minute.
stay to the right except when passing
"Upon all roadways any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway."
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
your a moron
You admit breaking the law, but you dont realize a crash due to you speeding will involve not just you but others as well.....and delay my drive to/from work because they will close down lanes
i bet it doesnt matter how fast the person is going because it will never be as fast as you want them to go.
Your one of those get out my way or ill tailgate you type of drivers that also like to zip in and out of lanes...
and yes i drive the southern calif freeways everyday, and if your behind me tailgating me because your late and im going 65-75 like everyone else expect me to slow down and flash my break lights everyso often and speed up when you try to pass me cuz im not let u pass.
Wrong, if that person was doing 75-80 I wouldn?t flash for her to move instead I would drive behind her. Don?t forget road rage start by some deciding to play a cop and keep other people from going faster then you think they should go.
It is nearly impossible to find any information on the Alabama state website. It doesn't allow searching and many of the links are broken.
It's 2003, you'd think they'd be able to design a functional website by now. Jeez, you'd think we were in Alabam....errr nevermind.
It's 2003, you'd think they'd be able to design a functional website by now. Jeez, you'd think we were in Alabam....errr nevermind.
THEN WHY IN THE HELL do you keep posting things about the law RCW 46.61.100 which is from Washington??? You posted an article from Seattle that has NOTHING to do with CA.
#1 Ylen13 is in CA.
#2 I never said you were. Nice attempt at sidestepping the argument. Secondly, it is IMPOSSIBLE to know where you are because you have your profile disabled. Thanks for assuming someone can magically trace your location.
#3 They are not in Washington EITHER.
#4 The law you posted from CA does NOT address anything called a "passing" lane. It is simply talking about the rules for yielding when passing. If you will READ the link from AL that I listed you will see the AL law is VERY similar. My whole point was to show you that your "idea" of a law is simply that.
#5 Post a link from CA law that says a the left lane is ONLY for passing.
#6 http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/lov/lovd11.htm there is a list of CA traffic violations. Not a single one says the left lane is to be used only for passing. The only mention that the left lane should not be used is when it is "unsafe."
#7 Unless you are talking about Car Pool lanes you don't have much of a point at ALL when CA is concerned.
#8 Answer arguments instead of diverting them.
#9 Get it?
Originally posted by: Ylen13
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
your a moron
You admit breaking the law, but you dont realize a crash due to you speeding will involve not just you but others as well.....and delay my drive to/from work because they will close down lanes
i bet it doesnt matter how fast the person is going because it will never be as fast as you want them to go.
Your one of those get out my way or ill tailgate you type of drivers that also like to zip in and out of lanes...
and yes i drive the southern calif freeways everyday, and if your behind me tailgating me because your late and im going 65-75 like everyone else expect me to slow down and flash my break lights everyso often and speed up when you try to pass me cuz im not let u pass.
Wrong, if that person was doing 75-80 I wouldn?t flash for her to move instead I would drive behind her. Don?t forget road rage start by some deciding to play a cop and keep other people from going faster then you think they should go.
i really doubt this...you seem to be the kind of guy that wants to drive as fast as possible without getting caught. Road rage starts when one person decides the other isnt drivign as they should..which in this case is you. your playing the cop, decides that that woman wasnt drivign as she should have been.
You state : 'some deciding to play a cop and keep other people from going faster then you think they should go'
then stop bitchign about how she drives and let a cop give her a ticket if she is breaking the law..just like u want a cop to give u a ticket for speeding if they catch u.
If your breaking the law and so is she ..who gave you the right to decide your more right than she is?
Jesus Christ you have no idea at all how to read law do you? That law is talking about when a vehicle is proceeding AT LESS THAN THE NORMAL SPEED OF TRAFFIC. I.E. Our 18 wheeler law. You cannot take bits and pieces and make your own law. It is the WHOLE statement not just segments that make up the law. Do you know how to read law? Guess not.
BTW, the Alabama site is fine. You saying there is not a search is just another attempt to delay/divert an argument.
Search for AL laws.
Read the WHOLE law next time. Quit trying to make an interpretation by bolding certain parts that YOU think applies to your situation.
man i hate people driving slow in the fast lane.. some drivers are way too timid and cautious in general, they dont understand that this has a negative result on other confident drivers.. if im doin 70 and the person behind me starts getting closer then i switch lanes and let pass on by.. its all about making the sytem flow.. my range is usually 65-80 in the fast lane.. driving 8 years.. no accidents and no tickets
Ok, we'll stick to Alabama law since that's what you seem to want to discuss.
Here's a law for you:
Read this one
Overtaking vehicle on left.
The following rules shall govern the overtaking and passing of vehicles proceeding in the same direction, subject to those limitations, exceptions and special rules hereinafter stated:
(1) The driver of a vehicle overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction shall pass to the left thereof at a safe distance and shall not again drive to the right side of the roadway until safely clear of the overtaken vehicle.
(2) Except when overtaking and passing on the right is permitted, the driver of an overtaken vehicle shall give way to the right in favor of the overtaking vehicle on audible signal and shall not increase the speed of his vehicle until completely passed by the overtaking vehicle.
(Acts 1980, No. 80-434, p. 604, §3-103.)
As you can see, the overtaken vehicle must yield to the overtaking vehicle. This is the rule, not the exception!
Here's a law for you:
Read this one
Overtaking vehicle on left.
The following rules shall govern the overtaking and passing of vehicles proceeding in the same direction, subject to those limitations, exceptions and special rules hereinafter stated:
(1) The driver of a vehicle overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction shall pass to the left thereof at a safe distance and shall not again drive to the right side of the roadway until safely clear of the overtaken vehicle.
(2) Except when overtaking and passing on the right is permitted, the driver of an overtaken vehicle shall give way to the right in favor of the overtaking vehicle on audible signal and shall not increase the speed of his vehicle until completely passed by the overtaking vehicle.
(Acts 1980, No. 80-434, p. 604, §3-103.)
As you can see, the overtaken vehicle must yield to the overtaking vehicle. This is the rule, not the exception!
Exactly what does that have to do with a Passing lane law? This is beginning to be a debate by pigheadedness on your part... You still have YET to debate any of my points. You either start trying to sidetrack the arguments or refuse to debate by saying it doesn't apply. It is impossible to debate with someone who only uses fallacies. I am quite familiar with all the Alabama traffic laws and I do not need a lecture on what they mean.
Once again you are making personal attacks at me when instead you should be simply addressing what I wrote.
This applies to the passing lane law in that several different rules state that you must stay to the right. Just because the wording does not say "Millenium, you cannot drive in the passing lane" does not mean that the law doesn't effectively state that fact. As with many laws, the evidence you're looking for is often circumstantial.
These laws in effect say that:
"Upon all roadways any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway"
"Except when overtaking and passing on the right is permitted, the driver of an overtaken vehicle shall give way to the right in favor of the overtaking vehicle on audible signal and shall not increase the speed of his vehicle until completely passed by the overtaking vehicle."
As is often the case with laws, it may not be stated directly (the way you want to see it), and may be stated circumstantially, but in effect that IS the case.
No it is not the case. Sorry you are 100% wrong. Are you currently studying for the Alabama State Trooper's test? I am. The traffic laws were covered fairly recently for me and I KNOW what the law in my state is.
If you want MORE evidence read the AL driver's manual section under passing.
It NEVER says you must stay in the right lane unless passing. Sorry, bud but I know the law in this case regarding my state and you are wrong. No if ands and buts about it!
You say I am personally attacking you, yet you refuse to respond to any of my points. All you are doing is being pigheaded and trying to interpret a non-applicable law to you situation. I have addressed every point you have made. You have refused to address mine. Even when I null your position you return with something else that you think applies. Try actually debating instead of being pigheaded. What Public Safety training do you have?
You obviously are NOT familiar with all the traffic laws or you wouldn't be arguing with me. You DO need a lecture on these laws.
I stated it crystal clear. You just choose not to see the laws that you do not want to see.
What's not to understand about this?
The driver of a vehicle overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction shall pass to the left thereof at a safe distance and shall not again drive to the right side of the roadway until safely clear of the overtaken vehicle.
This clearly states that you should pass on the left, and then get back to the right side of the roadway when you are safely clear of the overtaken vehicle.
Except when overtaking and passing on the right is permitted, the driver of an overtaken vehicle shall give way to the right in favor of the overtaking vehicle on audible signal and shall not increase the speed of his vehicle until completely passed by the overtaking vehicle.
And this clearly states that the overtaken vehicle has to give way to the passing vehicle.
Now put these two simple statements together. This is easy... (1)You pass on the left and get back to the right when it's safe, and (2) you give way to someone that's trying to pass you.
Is there something not clear about this?
You are the one trying to negate or ignore all the evidence I put before you. I am addressing your points. And you ARE personally attacking me... you even did it again.. " All you are doing is being pigheaded and..."
Stop making derogatory comments towards me. You are losing this argument and are beginning to revert to personal attacks.
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