Should this cop have been charged?

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Texashiker

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this.. I can't see why people would be supporting the cop's action.

Because sometimes people need a good ass-kicking.

The woman probably acts that way because she gotten away with it.

What was going to happen to her, go to court and pay a fine? So what?

I bet next time she thinks before she lashes out at someone.
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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I think the problem is not allowing people who are under arrest to have their guns.

If she had her gun, when he kicked her in the head, she could have shot him, and then everything would be okay.

Well your suppose to search the suspect before you cuff him. If she was in cuffs and shot him then it was his own negligence as he failed to search her properly
 

AstroManLuca

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Because sometimes people need a good ass-kicking.

The woman probably acts that way because she gotten away with it.

What was going to happen to her, go to court and pay a fine? So what?

I bet next time she thinks before she lashes out at someone.

So in your opinion it is appropriate for LEOs to punish suspects before they have been tried or even charged? Because they "have it coming"?
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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wonder who cuffed and searched her btw. I mean a guy frisking a woman only leads to sexual assault charges.
 

3chordcharlie

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Well your suppose to search the suspect before you cuff him. If she was in cuffs and shot him then it was his own negligence as he failed to search her properly
What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?

Disarming a suspect is, in fact, unconstitutional.
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?

Disarming a suspect is, in fact, unconstitutional.

No its not. Arresting a suspect you take away some if his constitutional rights and leave him with a couple. Police are given the powers to remove some of your rights like freedom of movement. When a person gets locked up theres a number of constitutional rights that goes out of the window. Even when you enter a roadblock that happens and rights get taken away. Do not confuse civil law with criminal.
One is the common man and one is the reasonable man. Cops work the reasonable man so does the criminal court
 

Paul98

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I don't even have to read the article, of course this cop should be charged. I am sure for more than what ever they did also.
 

Texashiker

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So in your opinion it is appropriate for LEOs to punish suspects before they have been tried or even charged? Because they "have it coming"?

The lady kicked the officer, she deserved to be kicked back.

You have someone that pushes and pushes an pushes,,, sooner or later its time to push back.
 

Miramonti

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Would like to see police policy that covers such incidents. I suspect he didn't go by the book, which means settlement.
 

slag

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while i don't feel sorry for the women. YES he should be charged. she was handcuffed and all it would have taken to defuse the situation was the LEO take a step back. instead he kicked a handcuffed person in the back of the head.

he needs a day off without pay and forced to clean toilets. other then that nothing major.

yep. nothing more, nothing less
 

3chordcharlie

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No its not. Arresting a suspect you take away some if his constitutional rights and leave him with a couple. Police are given the powers to remove some of your rights like freedom of movement. When a person gets locked up theres a number of constitutional rights that goes out of the window. Even when you enter a roadblock that happens and rights get taken away. Do not confuse civil law with criminal.
One is the common man and one is the reasonable man. Cops work the reasonable man so does the criminal court
So she should have preemptively shot him, before she was under arrest?

I've watched a lot of TV in my life, and if I've learned one thing, it's that a gun will solve any problem for you, no matter how sticky and hopeless it seems. I'm just trying to find out where this woman went wrong, so that if I'm ever in a similar situation, I will get it right.
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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This is what happened ones here by us. It was on a night shift and the police man working the night noticed this beautiful lady in the cells when they did the hourly cell inspection. So three of them decided to chat her up again. In the end they all three had sex with her. She gave consent everything. The next day when she went to court and got bail she went back to the police station and made a charge of rape.

All three lost their jobs. She got paid out a big amount in a civil suite as well. Now why rape if she gave consent? Because she was a detainee who had only cetain rights. They abused their position of power. Its same as having sex with a minor. Consent or not it still means by force
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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So she should have preemptively shot him, before she was under arrest?

I've watched a lot of TV in my life, and if I've learned one thing, it's that a gun will solve any problem for you, no matter how sticky and hopeless it seems. I'm just trying to find out where this woman went wrong, so that if I'm ever in a similar situation, I will get it right.

Ok lets say she tried to shot him. He disarmed her searched her and handcuffed her. Shes is restraint. She cause no threat anymore as you

1. Disarmed her
2. Searched her for any other weapons or dangerous objects
3. Handcuffed her where she cant pose a threat with her hands.

They must never ever hit or kick a person like a common thug in a street fight because thats not part of your training.

She kicked him so what you do get behind her lift her handcuffed arms up so she can go fwd and down and then restrain her legs as well. Let she hop where she must. Even if she wasnt cuffed. Using your fists and feet get you into more trouble than using a batton.

But the cops always use to say. If you assault someone never infront of a camera and do not leave marks. Otherwise IA will come with their camera and take some snapshots
 

highland145

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In the real world, would any of you take a swipe at a cop? More importantly, would you not expect to take a hit for taking a swipe at a cop?

Let's see some hands?



She got what she deserved, in the real world. Unfortunately, the cop is screwed and some lawyer is buying a new lotus.
 

waggy

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What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?

Disarming a suspect is, in fact, unconstitutional.

uh no.

once arrested a cop has a duty to disarm you and hold you. you do not get to be arrested and have weapons. in fact that is a crime.
 

MarkXIX

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As soon as he handcuffed her, he incapacitated her, meaning that her physical well-being is now even more of his responsibility. So, basically, he kicked an incapacitated woman in the head. Guilty as charged, fire his ass and put him on probation or maybe serve a week or two in jail.
 

the DRIZZLE

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In the real world, would any of you take a swipe at a cop? More importantly, would you not expect to take a hit for taking a swipe at a cop?

Let's see some hands?

Unfortunately there are a variety of behaviors that I expect from the police that aren't right or legal.
 

xj0hnx

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Dec 18, 2007
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he is not delving out punishment.

he is incapacitating a suspect who is out to do continued harm.

if you do not believe police should be able to stop a person from continued harm of others... then you don't believe police should carry a gun.. or a baton... or a stun gun..

after all... the suspect shooting at you should stop once you ask him nicely to come quietly, right?

Do you have family that's LE? You're not right in the head if you think what he did was ok. She's sitting on the ground, fucking handcuffed, and he kicked her in the head.
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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In the real world, would any of you take a swipe at a cop? More importantly, would you not expect to take a hit for taking a swipe at a cop?

Let's see some hands?



She got what she deserved, in the real world. Unfortunately, the cop is screwed and some lawyer is buying a new lotus.

You would be suprised