Should I turn in my roommate?

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NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Stark
That's one of the reasons we have laws... because if everyone uses their own "moral code" to justify their behavior, we're all screwed. The sniper in DC says he thinks he's god, the ulitmate judge of his own actions... you get that point?
I get what you are saying, but are saying you would have supported punishment of those who helped slaves escape when slavery was still legal?

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You know damn good and well what he meant. No stop being such a flamebait.
He said that we have laws to keep order and those who break them should be punished accordingly. I'm just making sure that he knows what his statement entails. Last time I checked helping free slaves was illegal

Hmm... so there are still slaves in today's society? And helping them is illegal!? :confused:

See? I know what you meant, but you can say anything and have it twisted by dumbfscks who only want to argue.

nik
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Hamburgerpimp
So Martyrs all through time who died for what they believed were just stupid for standing up for what they believed because they were killed for it?

I fail to see the correlation between this and narking on your roommate for selling drugs.

Read what I was replying to and you will.

nik
 
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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Well, I'm already branded one because of my faith, so you may as well start calling me one anyway. ;)

nik


So what if your faith was outlawed? I'm sure it would be for a good reason. Would you conform then as well?
 

oLLie

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Stark
That's one of the reasons we have laws... because if everyone uses their own "moral code" to justify their behavior, we're all screwed. The sniper in DC says he thinks he's god, the ulitmate judge of his own actions... you get that point?
I get what you are saying, but are saying you would have supported punishment of those who helped slaves escape when slavery was still legal?

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You know damn good and well what he meant. No stop being such a flamebait.
He said that we have laws to keep order and those who break them should be punished accordingly. I'm just making sure that he knows what his statement entails. Last time I checked helping free slaves was illegal

Perhaps he means the concepts of morals have progressed along with our laws and he was talking about modern laws when he said "we have laws..."
 

bunker

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Turn him in.

Consequences:
1. you may get a beatdown
2. you may have the hassle of having to go to court.

Benefits:
1. You keep your job
2. You don't get kicked out of school
3. You don't get put in jail

With that amount of pot it would definitely be considered distribution which carries a hell of a lot more penalties than simple possession.
 

Stark

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Stark
That's one of the reasons we have laws... because if everyone uses their own "moral code" to justify their behavior, we're all screwed. The sniper in DC says he thinks he's god, the ulitmate judge of his own actions... you get that point?
I get what you are saying, but are saying you would have supported punishment of those who helped slaves escape when slavery was still legal?

Actually, it was mainly a bunch of people who put God's moral code over the laws of the people that formed the Abolitionist movements in the US and UK. I'm not saying that the law is always right, but there is absolutely no question of what is right and what is wrong in the subject of this thread. His roommate isn't a harmless pothead... he's a dealer, making significant money off the sale of drugs. That tells you all you need to know about the roommates "moral code."

JuMpR629 needs to cut his ties to the guy NOW, before his entire college career is put in jeopardy. You think the administrators are going to buy "ya, I knew he was selling drugs, but he was cool in every other way" when the neighbor down the hall calls the cops? I don't think so.
 

heartsurgeon

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when i was in college pot cost $25/ounce
$300/ounce..yikes!!!

your goal should be to protect yourself - not to make trouble
if you "mess" with people, they will be inclinded to "mess" with you..you do not need this

if you feel you have a cordial relationship with your roomate - ask him not to keep his stuff in your room, and not to deal/smoke in your presence.
if he won;t agree to that - ask him to move out/ swap rooms with someone.
if he won't, then you should move out or swap rooms with someone.
if that option doesn't work - go to your faculty advisor/dormmaster tell them you are incompatible with your roomate.
 
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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
All you idiots telling him he's doing the right thing are just that, idiots. He goes and just turns this guy in, he not only has a drug dealer after him, he's probably got the law and the school on his case as well. He's already an accomplice basically, it's his dorm room too, and he'll be seen as just as guilty for allowing what went on to go on without tattling at the first sign of it all. JuMpR629, I told you what to do, either get the pot out of the room or get your ass out. Do anything else and it's just going to cause you more problems.

So where did "innocent until proven guilty" go? He's not an accomplice, Smart Guy, unless it's proven that he was actively involved in selling the marajuana. He's doing the right thing by going the authorities. Let the authorities handle it so he can get on with his education and not have to be bothered by idiots like the guy selling pot.

nik

He's already admitted that a sh1tload of pot was in his dorm room. HIS dorm room. That's possession at the very least. No telling what else a DA could come up with. If he goes through with this I guarantee he'll have to get on with his education at another school, if at all.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
All you idiots telling him he's doing the right thing are just that, idiots. He goes and just turns this guy in, he not only has a drug dealer after him, he's probably got the law and the school on his case as well. He's already an accomplice basically, it's his dorm room too, and he'll be seen as just as guilty for allowing what went on to go on without tattling at the first sign of it all. JuMpR629, I told you what to do, either get the pot out of the room or get your ass out. Do anything else and it's just going to cause you more problems.

So where did "innocent until proven guilty" go? He's not an accomplice, Smart Guy, unless it's proven that he was actively involved in selling the marajuana. He's doing the right thing by going the authorities. Let the authorities handle it so he can get on with his education and not have to be bothered by idiots like the guy selling pot.

nik

He's already admitted that a sh1tload of pot was in his dorm room. HIS dorm room. That's possession at the very least. No telling what else a DA could come up with. If he goes through with this I guarantee he'll have to get on with his education at another school, if at all.

And, if he comes forward NOW with information, the DA will have no reason to go after him for being the good-little-citizen.

OMG - HE KNOWS ABOUT POT THAT'S IN THE FREEZER! THAT MEANS HE'S GUILTY! GET HIM! GET HIM! CUFF HIM!!!!!! HE'S GOING DOWN!!!!

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Seriously, folks... seriously...
 

Geekbabe

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I'll be happy to come and remove the offending herb from your freezer , this offer is made strictly in friendship and so that you won't lose sleep worrying about this issue :)
 

Jzero

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He's already admitted that a sh1tload of pot was in his dorm room. HIS dorm room. That's possession at the very least. No telling what else a DA could come up with. If he goes through with this I guarantee he'll have to get on with his education at another school, if at all.

You're awfully paranoid, there 'Nad. I think you need to unroll your tinfoil jimmy hat just a little bit more.
 

Tripleshot

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I remember 10 bucks for a 5 finger lid of johacan. Geeze.:Q

Your roomate has put your life, your future, and your dreams at risk. He is scum. He does not deserve your even remotely considering anything less than turning him into authorities.

Watch your back. At those prices for dope, some consider it noble to kick your ass for snitching off the perp. Don't let that scare you. Just watch your back.
 
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Originally posted by: Jzero
He's already admitted that a sh1tload of pot was in his dorm room. HIS dorm room. That's possession at the very least. No telling what else a DA could come up with. If he goes through with this I guarantee he'll have to get on with his education at another school, if at all.

You're awfully paranoid, there 'Nad. I think you need to unroll your tinfoil jimmy hat just a little bit more.

I grew up in a family of lawers. With strong ties to college administrations. I know first hand what can go down in a situation like this. Now all of you will when this poor idiot reports back.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Originally posted by: Jzero
He's already admitted that a sh1tload of pot was in his dorm room. HIS dorm room. That's possession at the very least. No telling what else a DA could come up with. If he goes through with this I guarantee he'll have to get on with his education at another school, if at all.

You're awfully paranoid, there 'Nad. I think you need to unroll your tinfoil jimmy hat just a little bit more.

I grew up in a family of lawers. With strong ties to college administrations. I know first hand what can go down in a situation like this. Now all of you will when this poor idiot reports back.

So instead of standing up for what's right, you're going to put your head down and run around like sheep, right?

nik
 

joe678

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
The only reason it's turning into a debate is that a few flame-bait trolling assholes decided to start an arguement with me after I stated my opinion and left it at that.
you specificly said that you hated "druggies" which includes me and I was just trying to find out why
No you weren't; you were keeping a flame war going, just like I was.

Granted, I should have been the bigger man to let it go, but I love fighting with people about how doing something illegal can be okay.
I have another question that might hit closer to home:
Let's say that a very influential group decided that they did not like alcohol being sold or consumed for whatever reason. They used their clout and money to get congress to pass the 28th amendment bringing back prohibition. How would you feel then about consuming alcohol then?

I would realize that the law is the law and if I can't drink, then I can't drink. Alcohol, while I find enjoyment in it, I don't need and isn't important to me enough for me to become some UberDumbassDrunk in rebellion and drink behind the law's back. I don't need it. And, since I'm not a fscking tool, I would stop drinking.

How's that?

nik


Maybe I should have qualified the fact that I severely dislike anyone who blatantly breaks the law to a degree larger than a few miles over the speed limit or something trivial.


so you're fine with "trivial" law breaking activities...i guess speeding is "important to you enough" to BREAK THE LAW and put others in danger... but lets crack down on these potheads...
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: joe678
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
The only reason it's turning into a debate is that a few flame-bait trolling assholes decided to start an arguement with me after I stated my opinion and left it at that.
you specificly said that you hated "druggies" which includes me and I was just trying to find out why
No you weren't; you were keeping a flame war going, just like I was.

Granted, I should have been the bigger man to let it go, but I love fighting with people about how doing something illegal can be okay.
I have another question that might hit closer to home:
Let's say that a very influential group decided that they did not like alcohol being sold or consumed for whatever reason. They used their clout and money to get congress to pass the 28th amendment bringing back prohibition. How would you feel then about consuming alcohol then?

I would realize that the law is the law and if I can't drink, then I can't drink. Alcohol, while I find enjoyment in it, I don't need and isn't important to me enough for me to become some UberDumbassDrunk in rebellion and drink behind the law's back. I don't need it. And, since I'm not a fscking tool, I would stop drinking.

How's that?

nik


Maybe I should have qualified the fact that I severely dislike anyone who blatantly breaks the law to a degree larger than a few miles over the speed limit or something trivial.


so you're fine with "trivial" law breaking activities...i guess speeding is "important to you enough" to BREAK THE LAW and put others in danger... but lets crack down on these potheads...

Pretty much. There are pros and cons either way. When I see a cop speeding down the highway and turn on his lights in order to sail under a yellow light turning red, only to turn off and stop at a restaurant and go in to sit down to a table after arriving late, I think a few miles over the speed limit if I'm in a hurry isn't going to do anyone any trouble. And, if I get caught or someone decides to call me in, I wouldn't whine about them being nit picky, either. It's part of accepting the consequences. Some people out there decide to go after the pot smokers and speed on their way getting there. Other people decide to smoke pot and go after the speeders.

We're all fscking stupid. :)

nik
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
We're all fscking stupid. :)
get off your computer now nik, I don't want to agree with you again:Q :D

at any rate it's good to see that the flame fest died down
good night guys
 

Red Dawn

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I'm SUPPORTING him going to the authorities.

nik
Thisa from a guy who calls the police "Pigs" every tiome he talks about them.
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The Santa Cruz Mountains are filled with Shallow graves of snitches. The likelyhood of you getting your ass snuffed for ratting him out is small
but your actions could lead to him being incarcerated and the Dude might freak. Another thing to consider is you getting a reputation as a Rat. Even if most understand there will be some that won't agree with your actions and they will definately give you a rough time. Hell even if the guy you rat out doesn't beat your ass there might be others who will.

Tell the dude in no uncertain terms that that stuff has to go immediately or your will get rid of it yourself. If he doesn't heed your warning then throw the crap out. Nobody can blame you for doing that (Well except your dickhead Roomie)