Should I turn in my roommate?

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Stark

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you do realise that it was against the law for black people to vote for a long time, same with women too. Oh yeah, slavery was complely legal and those who helped to free slaves could be arrested.
Obviously the law is the highest moral guideline

And pot (like many other drugs) was perfectly legal for centuries... now it's not... so what's your point? The great thing about living in a free country is the ability to change the rules as times change.

I'm not a big fan of the war on drugs... I think it does way more harm than good, like create a market where a stupid-@ss college kid can make $600 off a bag of dead plant. But if my roommate ever sold drugs out of the place where I lived, you better believe I'd turn him in. Especially if I had no say in who I got stuck with as a roommate.
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
The only reason it's turning into a debate is that a few flame-bait trolling assholes decided to start an arguement with me after I stated my opinion and left it at that.
you specificly said that you hated "druggies" which includes me and I was just trying to find out why

Granted, I should have been the bigger man to let it go, but I love fighting with people about how doing something illegal can be okay.
I have another question that might hit closer to home:
Let's say that a very influential group decided that they did not like alcohol being sold or consumed for whatever reason. They used their clout and money to get congress to pass the 28th amendment bringing back prohibition. How would you feel then about consuming alcohol then?
 

oLLie

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Have you already gone up to the office? I would warn him again... it doesn't sound like you did a good job the first time. Tell him NOT TO FUNKING KEEP IT IN YOUR ROOM, because it makes YOU liable. Tell him he can do whatever the FUNK he wants, as long as it doesn't get YOU in trouble. How can your roommate not get it? Or not care? If he still didn't want to listen, I'd just take it and throw it away or something. I wouldn't turn him in, but if it kept getting worse I'd probably request a change.
 

tweakmm

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Stark
you do realise that it was against the law for black people to vote for a long time, same with women too. Oh yeah, slavery was complely legal and those who helped to free slaves could be arrested.
Obviously the law is the highest moral guideline

And pot (like many other drugs) was perfectly legal for centuries... now it's not... so what's your point?
my point was stated in the next sentance of that statement
rolleye.gif

I don't think that the law should be the final moral guideline
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
The only reason it's turning into a debate is that a few flame-bait trolling assholes decided to start an arguement with me after I stated my opinion and left it at that.
you specificly said that you hated "druggies" which includes me and I was just trying to find out why
No you weren't; you were keeping a flame war going, just like I was.

Granted, I should have been the bigger man to let it go, but I love fighting with people about how doing something illegal can be okay.
I have another question that might hit closer to home:
Let's say that a very influential group decided that they did not like alcohol being sold or consumed for whatever reason. They used their clout and money to get congress to pass the 28th amendment bringing back prohibition. How would you feel then about consuming alcohol then?

I would realize that the law is the law and if I can't drink, then I can't drink. Alcohol, while I find enjoyment in it, I don't need and isn't important to me enough for me to become some UberDumbassDrunk in rebellion and drink behind the law's back. I don't need it. And, since I'm not a fscking tool, I would stop drinking.

How's that?

nik
 

mchammer187

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Originally posted by: EngineNr9
Don't be a punk. Tell him straight up what you think.

give him a chance to get rid of it tell him you dont want your ass on the line

I too would probably change rooms before i turned him in
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Stark
you do realise that it was against the law for black people to vote for a long time, same with women too. Oh yeah, slavery was complely legal and those who helped to free slaves could be arrested.
Obviously the law is the highest moral guideline

And pot (like many other drugs) was perfectly legal for centuries... now it's not... so what's your point?
my point was stated in the next sentance of that statement
rolleye.gif

I don't think that the law should be the final moral guideline

Well, when you run the country or have any say other than a vote in what should be legal or illegal, I'll take what you say with grain of salt like you're doing with the law now and break your laws.

Oh wait... I'm actually intelligent.

Hrm. I guess you got me there.

nik
 
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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

I would realize that the law is the law and if I can't drink, then I can't drink. Alcohol, while I find enjoyment in it, I don't need and isn't important to me enough for me to become some UberDumbassDrunk in rebellion and drink behind the law's back. I don't need it. And, since I'm not a fscking tool, I would stop drinking.

How's that?

nik

Wow, you're a real think-for-yourself kind of guy aren't you?
 

Orsorum

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You're doing the right thing. Just smoking pot, drinking, etc isn't a huge deal... selling is another matter.

Kudos.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

I would realize that the law is the law and if I can't drink, then I can't drink. Alcohol, while I find enjoyment in it, I don't need and isn't important to me enough for me to become some UberDumbassDrunk in rebellion and drink behind the law's back. I don't need it. And, since I'm not a fscking tool, I would stop drinking.

How's that?

nik

Wow, you're a real think-for-yourself kind of guy aren't you?

Make fun of me all you like. But just because I don't rebel against every law out there just because I think it's stupid doesn't mean that there's someone out there who knows more than I do and put the law in place for a good reason.

nik
 

tweakmm

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May 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
I would realize that the law is the law and if I can't drink, then I can't drink. Alcohol, while I find enjoyment in it, I don't need and isn't important to me enough for me to become some UberDumbassDrunk in rebellion and drink behind the law's back. I don't need it. And, since I'm not a fscking tool, I would stop drinking.

How's that?

nik
I guess if you like bending over for the man ;) :p

seriously though, if you would stop drinking then I'm cool with your opinion. The one thing that I can't stand are those who have extremely strong opinions but are hippocrites
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
I would realize that the law is the law and if I can't drink, then I can't drink. Alcohol, while I find enjoyment in it, I don't need and isn't important to me enough for me to become some UberDumbassDrunk in rebellion and drink behind the law's back. I don't need it. And, since I'm not a fscking tool, I would stop drinking.

How's that?

nik
I guess if you like bending over for the man ;) :p

seriously though, if you would stop drinking then I'm cool with your opinion. The one thing that I can't stand are those who have extremely strong opinions but are hippocrites

Well, I'm already branded one because of my faith, so you may as well start calling me one anyway. ;)

nik
 

Stark

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Stark
you do realise that it was against the law for black people to vote for a long time, same with women too. Oh yeah, slavery was complely legal and those who helped to free slaves could be arrested.
Obviously the law is the highest moral guideline

And pot (like many other drugs) was perfectly legal for centuries... now it's not... so what's your point?
my point was stated in the next sentance of that statement
rolleye.gif

I don't think that the law should be the final moral guideline

No, you're right. God should be the final moral guideline. But I doubt you had Him in mind.

That's one of the reasons we have laws... because if everyone uses their own "moral code" to justify their behavior, we're all screwed. The sniper in DC says he thinks he's god, the ulitmate judge of his own actions... you get that point?

 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Well, when you run the country or have any say other than a vote in what should be legal or illegal, I'll take what you say with grain of salt like you're doing with the law now and break your laws.
you mean when I run a special interest group that has alot of money to bribe congressmen?
 

tweakmm

Lifer
May 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: Stark
That's one of the reasons we have laws... because if everyone uses their own "moral code" to justify their behavior, we're all screwed. The sniper in DC says he thinks he's god, the ulitmate judge of his own actions... you get that point?
I get what you are saying, but are saying you would have supported punishment of those who helped slaves escape when slavery was still legal?
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Well, when you run the country or have any say other than a vote in what should be legal or illegal, I'll take what you say with grain of salt like you're doing with the law now and break your laws.
you mean when I run a special interest group that has alot of money to bribe congressmen?

Not unless you're bribing yourself.

pppssssssssssssssssssssssssttt... Congressmen are a part of the government.

I'd take a cheap shot about the pot going to your head, but I don't want to stoke the fire now that it's died down a bit ;) :p

nik
 

tweakmm

Lifer
May 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Well, when you run the country or have any say other than a vote in what should be legal or illegal, I'll take what you say with grain of salt like you're doing with the law now and break your laws.
you mean when I run a special interest group that has alot of money to bribe congressmen?

Not unless you're bribing yourself.

pppssssssssssssssssssssssssttt... Congressmen are a part of the government.
you obviously missed my point
must be all the booze:p
 
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All you idiots telling him he's doing the right thing are just that, idiots. He goes and just turns this guy in, he not only has a drug dealer after him, he's probably got the law and the school on his case as well. He's already an accomplice basically, it's his dorm room too, and he'll be seen as just as guilty for allowing what went on to go on without tattling at the first sign of it all. JuMpR629, I told you what to do, either get the pot out of the room or get your ass out. Do anything else and it's just going to cause you more problems.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Stark
That's one of the reasons we have laws... because if everyone uses their own "moral code" to justify their behavior, we're all screwed. The sniper in DC says he thinks he's god, the ulitmate judge of his own actions... you get that point?
I get what you are saying, but are saying you would have supported punishment of those who helped slaves escape when slavery was still legal?

rolleye.gif


You know damn good and well what he meant. No stop being such a flamebait.

nik
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Well, when you run the country or have any say other than a vote in what should be legal or illegal, I'll take what you say with grain of salt like you're doing with the law now and break your laws.
you mean when I run a special interest group that has alot of money to bribe congressmen?

Not unless you're bribing yourself.

pppssssssssssssssssssssssssttt... Congressmen are a part of the government.
you obviously missed my point
must be all the booze:p

HAHAHAHAHA :D

*score*
 

tweakmm

Lifer
May 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Stark
That's one of the reasons we have laws... because if everyone uses their own "moral code" to justify their behavior, we're all screwed. The sniper in DC says he thinks he's god, the ulitmate judge of his own actions... you get that point?
I get what you are saying, but are saying you would have supported punishment of those who helped slaves escape when slavery was still legal?

rolleye.gif


You know damn good and well what he meant. No stop being such a flamebait.
He said that we have laws to keep order and those who break them should be punished accordingly. I'm just making sure that he knows what his statement entails. Last time I checked helping free slaves was illegal

 

Hamburgerpimp

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So Martyrs all through time who died for what they believed were just stupid for standing up for what they believed because they were killed for it?

I fail to see the correlation between this and narking on your roommate for selling drugs.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
All you idiots telling him he's doing the right thing are just that, idiots. He goes and just turns this guy in, he not only has a drug dealer after him, he's probably got the law and the school on his case as well. He's already an accomplice basically, it's his dorm room too, and he'll be seen as just as guilty for allowing what went on to go on without tattling at the first sign of it all. JuMpR629, I told you what to do, either get the pot out of the room or get your ass out. Do anything else and it's just going to cause you more problems.

So where did "innocent until proven guilty" go? He's not an accomplice, Smart Guy, unless it's proven that he was actively involved in selling the marajuana. He's doing the right thing by going the authorities. Let the authorities handle it so he can get on with his education and not have to be bothered by idiots like the guy selling pot.

nik