What you should have done is reminded the guy you work for campus security, tell him that you will not allow the activity to happen in the future again in your room, and see what happened. I fail to see why you needed to turn the guy in.
I'm gonna let it go. As far as I'm concerned, my involvement with the police in this case is over. I have 'immunity' and if he wants to get in trouble, let him. But I'm done reporting stuff. I don't want to take this any further than it has to go.
Originally posted by: kamiam
the dead Lawyer will stink more and @ least the animal rights group will mourn for the OPOSSUMI see you still havn't passed spelling yet..poor nikI see that your still pointing your finger @ others inadequacies, when in fact, you are describing your own inadequacy
WTF is your Goddamn problem Kamiam? Are you that fvcking bored that you have to attack everyone on this board? Obviously so.
I want my 900th post to be free of any animosity and judgement. So, in the spirit of togetherness, I'm telling you all, "I hope you're having a great night!" Thanks.
Originally posted by: Lucky
What you should have done is reminded the guy you work for campus security, tell him that you will not allow the activity to happen in the future again in your room, and see what happened. I fail to see why you needed to turn the guy in.
Did you read the original post, Lucky? There are CANINES that inspect the halls weekly. If he got it out, the dogs would still be able to smell it. I want to clear MYSELF; that was my only reason for going to the cops.
Oh, and our DPS is a full-fledged police department with something like 35-40 sworn Michigan police officers.
and just who the hell gave you permission to speak...god they just keep multiplying...guess I better get the bug spray outOriginally posted by: Millenium
Originally posted by: kamiam
the dead Lawyer will stink more and @ least the animal rights group will mourn for the OPOSSUMI see you still havn't passed spelling yet..poor nikI see that your still pointing your finger @ others inadequacies, when in fact, you are describing your own inadequacy
WTF is your Goddamn problem Kamiam? Are you that fvcking bored that you have to attack everyone on this board? Obviously so.
:frown:
Originally posted by: kamiam
and just who the hell gave you permission to speak...god they just keep multiplying...guess I better get the bug spray outOriginally posted by: Millenium
Originally posted by: kamiam
the dead Lawyer will stink more and @ least the animal rights group will mourn for the OPOSSUMI see you still havn't passed spelling yet..poor nikI see that your still pointing your finger @ others inadequacies, when in fact, you are describing your own inadequacy
WTF is your Goddamn problem Kamiam? Are you that fvcking bored that you have to attack everyone on this board? Obviously so.
:frown:
Or maybe just not be a fscking prick? I think that might be easier on all of us.
nik
OK nik, I'll make you a deal...you quit being a snot-nosed know-it-all ratfink LOSER and I'll stop being a "fscking prick"Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: kamiam
and just who the hell gave you permission to speak...god they just keep multiplying...guess I better get the bug spray outOriginally posted by: Millenium
Originally posted by: kamiam
the dead Lawyer will stink more and @ least the animal rights group will mourn for the OPOSSUMI see you still havn't passed spelling yet..poor nikI see that your still pointing your finger @ others inadequacies, when in fact, you are describing your own inadequacy
WTF is your Goddamn problem Kamiam? Are you that fvcking bored that you have to attack everyone on this board? Obviously so.
:frown:
Or maybe just not be a fscking prick? I think that might be easier on all of us.
nik
Originally posted by: JuMpR629
Originally posted by: Lucky
What you should have done is reminded the guy you work for campus security, tell him that you will not allow the activity to happen in the future again in your room, and see what happened. I fail to see why you needed to turn the guy in.
Did you read the original post, Lucky? There are CANINES that inspect the halls weekly. If he got it out, the dogs would still be able to smell it. I want to clear MYSELF; that was my only reason for going to the cops.
Oh, and our DPS is a full-fledged police department with something like 35-40 sworn Michigan police officers.
Yes, JuMpR629, I read your original post. If he got rid of the drugs, as you say, then there wouldn't be a problem. If he hadn't gotten rid of it, then you should have told him to get rid of it or would tell the authorities. If you are saying that based solely on a positive sniff by a dog that your school is allowed to search your room, I think you are mistaken.
Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: JuMpR629
Originally posted by: Lucky
What you should have done is reminded the guy you work for campus security, tell him that you will not allow the activity to happen in the future again in your room, and see what happened. I fail to see why you needed to turn the guy in.
Did you read the original post, Lucky? There are CANINES that inspect the halls weekly. If he got it out, the dogs would still be able to smell it. I want to clear MYSELF; that was my only reason for going to the cops.
Oh, and our DPS is a full-fledged police department with something like 35-40 sworn Michigan police officers.
Yes, JuMpR629, I read your original post. If he got rid of the drugs, as you say, then there wouldn't be a problem. If he hadn't gotten rid of it, then you should have told him to get rid of it or would tell the authorities. If you are saying that based solely on a positive sniff by a dog that your school is allowed to search your room, I think you are mistaken.
Well if the dorms are the property of the school, wouldn't they have every right to search it?
you did the right thing living in a dorm. you should warn him though never to bring drugs to your place ever again
These guys are right--every action has its consequence. You've been presented with several different options ranging from intellegent to noble to just plain fvcking stupid. Many choices are black and white, but this one is not. We'll look at the two major options first.
If you turn him in, any or all of these could happen: you could be tried as an accomplice (unlikely), he could go to jail, he could get probation, he could get off scot free if he cooperated in nailing his supplier (the feds want the big fish, not guys like your roomie), you could get a reputation as a rat/narc/whatever, you could get your ass beat, you could get killed, your "connection" with a drug dealer could screw your future, he could go away and nothing could come of it, he might show up for revenge when he's released from prison, etc, etc.
If you don't turn him in you may: get busted by the drug dogs, get involved somehow with his doings, have your future screwed by any drug involvement, etc. The consequences of this action (or inaction) are much more cut and dry than if you turned him in. Regardless, this is obviously not the best choice.
The side door is the approprate exit in this case. Actions such as destroying his stash are ultimately not going to help you so don't even try it. Talking to him may work, but how well do you know this guy? Even if he holds it in his car, what's to say he won't have left a small amout somewhere in your dorm that he forgot about? What if it's on him? The dogs will waste no time finding even trace amounts. Pretty much every pot smoker I know is a very respectful person, and he may comply with your wishes, but that's irrelevant. Intention is not action.
In my opinion, you should leave him where he chose to be, and vacate the situation entirely. You must know other people, find somewhere else to stay. If they want reasons, make something up. Make sure it's not malicious enough to have unintended consequences--you know, don't say "cause he was a pervert" or something like that. Say you're a neat freak and he's incredibly messy, and it's just driving you nuts and you have to get out. You can go a long ways and still tread lightly.
Turning him in, while being the "right" thing to do, just has leaves too many bad doors open. Of everyone on your campus, there are maybe one or two individuals who are sufficiently equipped to deal with a vengeful drug dealer, and they'd be smart enough to eliminate that possibility and escape so they can continue down their path. Remember the holy trinity of decision making, your head, your heart, and your gut. What do they say? It's a democracy, majority rules. Stay smart, good luck.
If you turn him in, any or all of these could happen: you could be tried as an accomplice (unlikely), he could go to jail, he could get probation, he could get off scot free if he cooperated in nailing his supplier (the feds want the big fish, not guys like your roomie), you could get a reputation as a rat/narc/whatever, you could get your ass beat, you could get killed, your "connection" with a drug dealer could screw your future, he could go away and nothing could come of it, he might show up for revenge when he's released from prison, etc, etc.
If you don't turn him in you may: get busted by the drug dogs, get involved somehow with his doings, have your future screwed by any drug involvement, etc. The consequences of this action (or inaction) are much more cut and dry than if you turned him in. Regardless, this is obviously not the best choice.
The side door is the approprate exit in this case. Actions such as destroying his stash are ultimately not going to help you so don't even try it. Talking to him may work, but how well do you know this guy? Even if he holds it in his car, what's to say he won't have left a small amout somewhere in your dorm that he forgot about? What if it's on him? The dogs will waste no time finding even trace amounts. Pretty much every pot smoker I know is a very respectful person, and he may comply with your wishes, but that's irrelevant. Intention is not action.
In my opinion, you should leave him where he chose to be, and vacate the situation entirely. You must know other people, find somewhere else to stay. If they want reasons, make something up. Make sure it's not malicious enough to have unintended consequences--you know, don't say "cause he was a pervert" or something like that. Say you're a neat freak and he's incredibly messy, and it's just driving you nuts and you have to get out. You can go a long ways and still tread lightly.
Turning him in, while being the "right" thing to do, just has leaves too many bad doors open. Of everyone on your campus, there are maybe one or two individuals who are sufficiently equipped to deal with a vengeful drug dealer, and they'd be smart enough to eliminate that possibility and escape so they can continue down their path. Remember the holy trinity of decision making, your head, your heart, and your gut. What do they say? It's a democracy, majority rules. Stay smart, good luck.
Originally posted by: kamiam
OK nik, I'll make you a deal...you quit being a snot-nosed know-it-all ratfink LOSER and I'll stop being a "fscking prick"Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: kamiam
and just who the hell gave you permission to speak...god they just keep multiplying...guess I better get the bug spray outOriginally posted by: Millenium
Originally posted by: kamiam
the dead Lawyer will stink more and @ least the animal rights group will mourn for the OPOSSUMI see you still havn't passed spelling yet..poor nikI see that your still pointing your finger @ others inadequacies, when in fact, you are describing your own inadequacy
WTF is your Goddamn problem Kamiam? Are you that fvcking bored that you have to attack everyone on this board? Obviously so.
:frown:
Or maybe just not be a fscking prick? I think that might be easier on all of us.
nik
That's so not fair, though. You really shouldn't expect yourself to change so much and me to only change a little bit.
nik
...okay, that was dumb.
So what if the dogs came by and smelled the sht.... Isn't your roommate just as aware (if not more) of the 'weekly inspections' you mentioned? So you're saying that even if he got rid of all the bags and scales, that the dogs could still smell the remnants of it, and they would come in and you guys would get in trouble? I Don't think so. If there's no evidence, they can't do sht... And you would not get fired... I just can't believe you at least didn't try to give him fair warning... Seems pretty selfish but you know what i really think? Some of you guys on here are so starved for attention and conversation that you gotta post your daily drama and get everyone involved, it's rediculous... Make these decisions on your own bro...
Time to get of my dopebox.... puff, puff, pass....
ps, nik's a dork.
Time to get of my dopebox.... puff, puff, pass....
ps, nik's a dork.
Incorrect. (at least not in this situation). fer to page 14/15 of your Community Living handbook. Read the room entry/search guidelines. I hope that as someone who works in the public safety department you would be aware of that.
That's, without a doubt, the most intelligent post I've read on ATOT since I joined in Dec. 2001. I applaud you, BujinZero. I don't necessarily agree with your opinion though. My parents are paying for school and I'm the one who's doing the RIGHT thing. So why should I have to move out of the room? I'd ask him to move out first, if it came to that. I don't feel that it's my responsibility to move out when illegal substances are involved. If it were a messiness vs. clean issue, then sure, I'd move out. But it's not...it's marijuana. And it's his weed.
But like I said, I am in awe of your post. It's calm, collected, and it reflects all points of view. You're one to be admired. Thank you for your opinion.
Originally posted by: Lucky
Incorrect. Refer to page 14/15 of your Community Living handbook. Read the room entry/search guidelines. I hope that as someone who works in the public safety department you would be aware of that.
Er...I stand corrected.
Thanks for the clarification Lucky...and while you're right, I just wouldn't feel right letting such an occurence go unreported in my own room, ESPECIALLY since I work for DPS. It's my job to do such things, whether I'm in service or not.I understand what you are saying. That's not my mentality so I have a hard time seeing that point of view...I would have just told him never to set foot in your room with the stuff, If I were you.
problem is, he craves the attentionOriginally posted by: stev0
what is this? a flame nik thread?
.... bout damn time
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Originally posted by: kamiam
problem is, he craves the attentionOriginally posted by: stev0
what is this? a flame nik thread?
.... bout damn time
<Cheering section>
go Nik, Go Nik! You the man! RA! RA! RA!
</cheering section>
Everyone really needs to lighten up.
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