Sheryl Crow - "War is not the answer"

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Jzero

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Well...she is right, you know. It's just...painfully oversimplified. Good luck in never making any enemies.
 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: Tripleshot
OK, comrad, stifle free speach and opinion from the celebs, who have more at stake than you, by offering themselves for a cause and endure your pathetic scrutiny. They have the wherewithall and money to go to Iraq or Pakistan,or wherever and see first hand what your politcally motivated media does not show you. Then when they, with a modicom of informed first hand knowledge express that WAR is not the answer, you arm chair windbags who have nothing to lose, proclaim they have no right to talk, and express their opinion.

Screw you you freakin communists. I fought in Viet Nam war, My father fought there and Korea, my grandfather fought in WWII and my Great grandfather fought in WWI. STFU! They and I earned the right to speak out for or against this war drum beating. You maggots have done nothing----HEAR THAT? NOTHING!

Cheryl Crow can say what she wants, and so can Martin Sheen. I said so. You can go to hell.


BTW, I support the war effort. I just don't support your attitude that someone with a differing opinion should be censored. You are just what Stalin would call a good buddy.:|

Going there doesnt necessarily mean they are any more knowledgable... the Red Cross was duped into thinking some concentration camps in WWII were nice places where the children played on swingsets and there was plenty of food, medicine and clothing to go around. Lets not forget a certain celebrity who went over to Vietnam and sold POWs out to their captors when they tried to give her messages.
 

FeathersMcGraw

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
One thing I noticed at the American Music Awards, in addition to Sheryl Crow's political statement, was that one of the rap stars was wearing an eagle medallion that had "BUSH!" on the bottom of it.

Not to stereotype rap music, but maybe he wasn't supporting the President.

;)
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
So, when you consume alcohol, you are normal and simply exercising a right. When the daughter of the president consumes it, she is a druggie?
First of all, alcohol is a drug. Second, both twins have been popped for underage drinking MORE THAN ONCE. I drink a glass of chardonney with dinner, and I enjoy a good maragarita when I go to my favorite Mex restaurant. I'm 61 years old, and that's legal. I have never been busted for being drunk. In fact, I have never been drunk in my life.
Typical liberals.
Thanks for noticing. I accept all compliments graciously. :)

FrancesBeansRevenge -- I did not wish harm on Bush's daughters. They have a problem... actually several problems. As for whether you're a war monger, it's pretty hard not to take that meaning from your reaction to Sheryl Crow's anti-war t-shirt statement. :Q
 

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Originally posted by: Tripleshot
OK, comrad, stifle free speach and opinion from the celebs, who have more at stake than you, by offering themselves for a cause and endure your pathetic scrutiny. They have the wherewithall and money to go to Iraq or Pakistan,or wherever and see first hand what your politcally motivated media does not show you. Then when they, with a modicom of informed first hand knowledge express that WAR is not the answer, you arm chair windbags who have nothing to lose, proclaim they have no right to talk, and express their opinion.

Screw you you freakin communists. I fought in Viet Nam war, My father fought there and Korea, my grandfather fought in WWII and my Great grandfather fought in WWI. STFU! They and I earned the right to speak out for or against this war drum beating. You maggots have done nothing----HEAR THAT? NOTHING!

Cheryl Crow can say what she wants, and so can Martin Sheen. I said so. You can go to hell.


BTW, I support the war effort. I just don't support your attitude that someone with a differing opinion should be censored. You are just what Stalin would call a good buddy.:|

I don't support your assertion that just because you served that gives you more right than someone who hasn't to express your opinion. You have earned my respect for the service you gave this country. You have learned the hard way what the horrors of war are. What you haven't earned is any more rights than anyone else who is a citizen of this country to speak out for or against anything.

 

Geekbabe

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"war is not the answer"

very true sentiment,unfortunately it's not one that was subscribed to on 9/11 :(

I don't like the thought of dead or forever maimed people... however I loath the idea that we'll have more dead or maimed innocent Americans attacked on our own soil.
 

Led Zeppelin

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She's so bold to come out and say "War is not the answer", but she sure as hell didn't offer any alternatives as to what IS the answer!!!
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If you're going to come out and take a stand, at least have something to back it up with. If not, stfu.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: LedZeppelin
If you're going to come out and take a stand, at least have something to back it up with. If not, stfu.
Like she was going to hold a press conference on her alternative international policies right there, on the show. Uh-huh.
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Ya think maybe the fact that we're discussing it here and now is enough proof that her statement had the desired efffect? :)

 

StageLeft

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I really CANNOT stand the opinions of celebrities when it comes to basically anything other than a new line of clothing. They live so far away from what the rest of us do that they cannot comprehend reality at all. My statement is backed up time and time again by asinine things they say.
She's so bold to come out and say "War is not the answer", but she sure as hell didn't offer any alternatives as to what IS the answer!!!
Yes she did! She said have no enemies :Q
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: LedZeppelin
If you're going to come out and take a stand, at least have something to back it up with. If not, stfu.
Like she was going to hold a press conference on her alternative international policies right there, on the show. Uh-huh.
rolleye.gif


Ya think maybe the fact that we're discussing it here and now is enough proof that her statement had the desired efffect? :)


Harvey,you ought to know by now that rant first and think later is the favorite response of many,lol,uttering STFU solves all problems you know :)
 

Led Zeppelin

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: LedZeppelin
If you're going to come out and take a stand, at least have something to back it up with. If not, stfu.
Like she was going to hold a press conference on her alternative international policies right there, on the show. Uh-huh.
rolleye.gif


Ya think maybe the fact that we're discussing it here and now is enough proof that her statement had the desired efffect? :)

Not at all. She's looking out for herself and to get herself publicity since she's pretty much a memory in the pop music scene. She's babbling about what that answer isn't, why not take the time to offer alternatives?

 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
I will note and file her opinion, along with the rest of 'celebrities' political opinions, deep inside my ass never to be heard from again.

same here
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
One thing I noticed at the American Music Awards, in addition to Sheryl Crow's political statement, was that one of the rap stars was wearing an eagle medallion that had "BUSH!" on the bottom of it.

Not to stereotype rap music, but maybe he wasn't supporting the President.

;)

Possible, but the medallion was a gold bald eagle with its wings spread, and BUSH was in gold capital letters at the eagle's feet. It's the most obvious, and most likely message.
 

HappyPuppy

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Originally posted by: LedZeppelin
She's so bold to come out and say "War is not the answer", but she sure as hell didn't offer any alternatives as to what IS the answer!!!
rolleye.gif
If you're going to come out and take a stand, at least have something to back it up with. If not, stfu.

But, she did offer an alternative. Don't have enemies. Life really is simple you know.

 

Led Zeppelin

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Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
I will note and file her opinion, along with the rest of 'celebrities' political opinions, deep inside my ass never to be heard from again.

:D
 

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Last time I checked American entertainer/celebrities are still citizens here and as such enjoy the same right to freedom of speech that the rest of us do. :)
 

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Last time I checked American entertainer/celebrities are still citizens here and as such enjoy the same right to freedom of speech that the rest of us do. :)
Yes, but ever notice how all of the vocal ones have the most left wing liberals ridiculous ideas? They truly live in a fantasy land that most of us cannot ever be a part of. A land filled with showers of perier water and private gardeners.

 

Linflas

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FrancesBeansRevenge -- I did not wish harm on Bush's daughters. They have a problem... actually several problems. As for whether you're a war monger, it's pretty hard not to take that meaning from your reaction to Sheryl Crow's anti-war t-shirt statement.

Harvey - You base this assertion on a couple of incidents which we know about solely because these 2 young women happen to be the daughters of the President. Like it or not college students today are no different than college students of any particular decade you care to name. The only thing that has changed is that hypocritical members of my generation arbitrarily changed the drinking laws to criminalize what we were able to do legally in college. I guarantee I can go to any bar around any college campus and find scores of students doing the same thing these women were caught doing. The difference is when they get caught the only people to know are their friends and perhaps relatives.
 

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Originally posted by: Linflas
FrancesBeansRevenge -- I did not wish harm on Bush's daughters. They have a problem... actually several problems. As for whether you're a war monger, it's pretty hard not to take that meaning from your reaction to Sheryl Crow's anti-war t-shirt statement.

You base this assertion on a couple of incidents which we know about solely because these 2 young women happen to be the daughters of the President. Like it or not college students today are no different than college students of any particular decade you care to name. The only thing that has changed is that hypocritical members of my generation arbitrarily changed the drinking laws to criminalize what we were able to do legally in college. I guarantee I can go to any bar around any college campus and find scores of students doing the same thing these women were caught doing. The difference is when they get caught the only people to know are their friends and perhaps relatives.
Yep. All my friends and I drank underage in college. It's part of the experience.

 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Last time I checked American entertainer/celebrities are still citizens here and as such enjoy the same right to freedom of speech that the rest of us do. :)
Yes, but ever notice how all of the vocal ones have the most left wing liberals ridiculous ideas? They truly live in a fantasy land that most of us cannot ever be a part of. A land filled with showers of perier water and private gardeners.

And you are just as free as they are to express your thoughts concerning their opnions... it's not perfect but Freedom of Speech and Free Assembly totally rock:)
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Harvey - You base this assertion on a couple of incidents which we know about solely because these 2 young women happen to be the daughters of the President.
Forgive me for not including the whole quote. It isn't necessary for the reply.

I do NOT accept underage drinking as "part of the experience," as Skoorb called it. Maybe I could write off getting popped ONCE for underage drinking, but they were busted more than once. Even then, I would think they had a problem, but unless you can tell me they got so polluted that they forgot they really are the president's daughters, and the responsiblities that goes with it (whether they like it, or not), IMHO, the Bushs daughters are a pretty lame pair of ditzes.
 

LethalWolfe

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Originally posted by: Tripleshot
OK, comrad, stifle free speach and opinion from the celebs, who have more at stake than you, by offering themselves for a cause and endure your pathetic scrutiny. They have the wherewithall and money to go to Iraq or Pakistan,or wherever and see first hand what your politcally motivated media does not show you. Then when they, with a modicom of informed first hand knowledge express that WAR is not the answer, you arm chair windbags who have nothing to lose, proclaim they have no right to talk, and express their opinion.

Screw you you freakin communists. I fought in Viet Nam war, My father fought there and Korea, my grandfather fought in WWII and my Great grandfather fought in WWI. STFU! They and I earned the right to speak out for or against this war drum beating. You maggots have done nothing----HEAR THAT? NOTHING!

Cheryl Crow can say what she wants, and so can Martin Sheen. I said so. You can go to hell.


BTW, I support the war effort. I just don't support your attitude that someone with a differing opinion should be censored. You are just what Stalin would call a good buddy.:|


So because you fought in a war you "...earned the right to speak..." implying that noncombatents don't have the right to voice their opinions? Also, telling people to "STFU" 'cause they disagree w/some celeb sounds like censorship to me. Who's the communist now? You have the right to say what you want, and if I feel so inclined, I have the right to disagree w/you.

I know there's probably a great view from up there but you really should get off yer high horse every now and then...


Lethal
 

FrancesBeansRevenge

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: XZeroII
So, when you consume alcohol, you are normal and simply exercising a right. When the daughter of the president consumes it, she is a druggie?
First of all, alcohol is a drug. Second, both twins have been popped for underage drinking MORE THAN ONCE. I drink a glass of chardonney with dinner, and I enjoy a good maragarita when I go to my favorite Mex restaurant. I'm 61 years old, and that's legal. I have never been busted for being drunk. In fact, I have never been drunk in my life.
Typical liberals.
Thanks for noticing. I accept all compliments graciously. :)

FrancesBeansRevenge -- I did not wish harm on Bush's daughters. They have a problem... actually several problems. As for whether you're a war monger, it's pretty hard not to take that meaning from your reaction to Sheryl Crow's anti-war t-shirt statement. :Q


So, because I have NO interest in celebrities' opinions makes me a war monger?
That makes sense.
Do you understand the difference between rejecting an opinion based on source rather than on substance?

As was said in the above post these celebs have every right to voice thier opinion and I have every right to dismiss them. :)