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Sen. John Ensign
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imported_inspire
Senior member
Tells us more about your infatuation with republicans, Phokus... was Senator Craig a friend of the family?
Steeplerot
Lifer
Being Bi is so trendy nowadays even the reps are giving females a shot? weird.
jonks
Lifer
Or they merely trust most people know what's moral and what isn't, and so don't feel a need to proclaim moral superiority when running for office. Neither Reps or Dems campaign on a platform about how it's wrong to use stray dogs as pinatas, but I don't think their failing to do so is equivalent to advocating the practice. Politicians who moralize about family values who are then found to be shitting all over them are douchebags and hypocrites; politicians who act immorally but who didn't make a claim to moral superiority are simply douchebags.
GroundedSailor
Platinum Member
In Ensigns own words:
In 1998, after President Bill Clinton admitted to having committed adultery with Monica Lewinsky, Ensign called on him to resign, saying, "He has no credibility left."
?Marriage recognizes the ideal of a father and mother living together to raise their children,? Ensign said. ?Marriage is the cornerstone on which our society was founded. For those who say that the Constitution is so sacred that we cannot or should not adopt the Federal Marriage Amendment, I would simply point out that marriage, and the sanctity of that institution, predates the American Constitution and the founding of our nation. Marriage, as a social institution, predates every other institution on which ordered society in America has relied.?
As others have also pointed out, it's the hypocrisy or double standard of Ensign which makes it worse for what he did. Frankly having an affair is not a big deal but double standard in a senior politician is.
SunSamurai
Diamond Member
Sounds like you're having a personal issue =)
SunSamurai
Diamond Member
anyone in office lieing should be tried and impeached. Clinton. Bush. Whomever. Dont be a lil kid and sit there saying "HE DID IT TOO!" Grow up.
Siddhartha
Lifer
It must be tough to feel you have to defend Mr Ensign who is obviously a hypocrite.
miketheidiot
Lifer
newt ginrich
You guys are acting like people never let their vices get the better of them in spite of their beliefs... and yet:
1. We have some millions of fatties walking around the country, knowing they are taking years off their life, knowing they should lose weight, knowing they are gonna be a huge drain on medicare, etc. And they still order their big macs and don't exercise anyhow.... and thus stay fat. Why? Lack of will power.
2. We have tons of folks who smoke (or are alcoholics) and know they should stop smoking or drinking or their own health and their families well being... but don't.
3. personal example: I think drunk driving is horrible and wrong (most will agree but maybe not all) and yet I did drive drunk once when I really should not have been driving. I didn't get caught, I didn't hurt anyone (I was sober enough, maybe, to drive safe enough but damn)... but I definitely DUI'ed. I'm not proud of it but i did it... it was wrong. Does that now invalidate my stance that drunk driving is wrong because I did it once? Not at all.
Not saying I endorse this guy... but it is pretty stupid to throw his entire stance under the bus because he occasionally acts contrary to his beliefs, especially when it's sex which is the single largest piece of kryptonite for most men.
1. We have some millions of fatties walking around the country, knowing they are taking years off their life, knowing they should lose weight, knowing they are gonna be a huge drain on medicare, etc. And they still order their big macs and don't exercise anyhow.... and thus stay fat. Why? Lack of will power.
2. We have tons of folks who smoke (or are alcoholics) and know they should stop smoking or drinking or their own health and their families well being... but don't.
3. personal example: I think drunk driving is horrible and wrong (most will agree but maybe not all) and yet I did drive drunk once when I really should not have been driving. I didn't get caught, I didn't hurt anyone (I was sober enough, maybe, to drive safe enough but damn)... but I definitely DUI'ed. I'm not proud of it but i did it... it was wrong. Does that now invalidate my stance that drunk driving is wrong because I did it once? Not at all.
Not saying I endorse this guy... but it is pretty stupid to throw his entire stance under the bus because he occasionally acts contrary to his beliefs, especially when it's sex which is the single largest piece of kryptonite for most men.
GroundedSailor
Platinum Member
When he has been an aggressive proponent of the imposing on others the very stances that he has not followed, the protest against his hypocrisy are going to be aggressive too.
It's not about his vices - it's about the double standard and 'do as I say not as I do'.
dali71
Golden Member
Bad, but not nearly as bad as John Edwards converting money from his PAC to pay off Rielle Hunter. I wonder how the federal investigation is going?
RightIsWrong
Diamond Member
I guess you'd have to ask Rush Limbaugh that question.
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