[Semiaccurate] GK104/Kepler/GTX680 Next Week?

[tviceman]

We all saw what you did. :hmm:

This is how a lot of people feel today, was hoping for at least something from Nvidia besides silence.

This seriously needs to be their new logo. I laugh my a$$ off every time I see it.

 

[ocre]

We all saw what you did. :hmm:

This is how a lot of people feel today, was hoping for at least something from Nvidia besides silence.

Charlie D is the only reason ppl thought anything would be shown today. Its his credibility that should be attacked.

As far as the GTX 680 or whatever, we dont know the real NDA. We can guess that reviewers are getting cards. That would mean we could know something real soon like. other than that, Nvidia hasnt promised us anything. Not a peep. Its all in people imagination. Nvidia hasnt officially said much of anything on kepler.

 

[AnandThenMan]

That would be a significant and substantial node change, hehe!

Yea, that.

I would not be even slightly surprised if the 680 or whatever the designation ends up being will exceed $500. Flagship Nvidia=you gonna pay premiums.

 

[AnandThenMan]

... Nvidia hasnt promised us anything. Not a peep. Its all in people imagination. Nvidia hasnt officially said much of anything on kepler.

I realize this, and that's the problem. Would it kill Nvidia to set a launch date and let us know? Otherwise for all we know Kepler will be launched in 2 weeks or 2 months.

 

[Jacky60]

pics or it didnt happen!!!!

Keys knowing nvidia is plausible.

Some guy who likes to trash talk all of a sudden claims they met them too? that is questionable. Just trash talking.

As far as $550 goes. We dont have any clue what its gonna cost or how well its gonna perform. Why bother complaining now?

Well clearly he knows Nvidia, unless you're a total moron you'd see in his sig he's an Nvidia focus group member. If you want to believe I've never met people who work for Nvidia that's your call. Moreover anyone who suggests that business meetings don't take place unless there's photographic evidence is kind of out of touch with reality.

 

[OCGuy]

So never-accurate makes up a date, and it doesnt hit, so nV is somehow trolling?

Que?

 

[OCGuy]

Yea, that.

I would not be even slightly surprised if the 680 or whatever the designation ends up being will exceed $500. Flagship Nvidia=you gonna pay premiums.

I'm pretty sure I just paid a premium for AMD's Flagship. It is called "smart business" to charge what the market will bare.

 

[3DVagabond]

Yea, that.

I would not be even slightly surprised if the 680 or whatever the designation ends up being will exceed $500. Flagship Nvidia=you gonna pay premiums.

But it's only their midrange part?

 

[Arzachel]

Get off your asses, Nvidia, I want to start cheering/booing for the next generation already!

 

[blastingcap]

Charlie D is the only reason ppl thought anything would be shown today. Its his credibility that should be attacked.

As far as the GTX 680 or whatever, we dont know the real NDA. We can guess that reviewers are getting cards. That would mean we could know something real soon like. other than that, Nvidia hasnt promised us anything. Not a peep. Its all in people imagination. Nvidia hasnt officially said much of anything on kepler.

I spoke to someone a little over a week ago who works for NVDA. He isn't directly involved in product shipment timelines--he's not in that part of the company. But he said that we "should be hearing something in 2 weeks." Which if taken literally would mean something like March 18. I tried to get more information out of him but he wouldn't give me much. He didn't deny my statement that the Kepler flagship wouldn't show up for several more months, by which time AMD might be close to a refresh on 28nm.

Due to the above, I figured that NVDA would either launch or paper launch GK104 sometime this week, or else early the following week. But yeah, Charlie was the only one who stated March 12, unequivocally.

 

[Keysplayr]

We all saw what you did. :hmm:

This is how a lot of people feel today, was hoping for at least something from Nvidia besides silence.

You could just, well I don't know, maybe wait until it's announced?
I don't get what all this tension is day after day. It's here when it's here. That is all. hehe.

 

[lavaheadache]

The tension is because day after day it's not here. Just sayin

 

[Crap Daddy]

So, we'll have a little miracle here, lower TDP, smaller chip, better performance than Tahiti XP. Except we have to pay lots of money to play with this little wonder boy.

I have a feeling that GK110 will never come for us. It will go straight into HPC and Teslas and Quadros. So, prepare for the new GTX680, "performance-part-turned-high-end" because the competition was unable to deliver. Midrange remains unchanged, same performance as last year for the same money (both AMD and NV). I am dissapointed.

 

[Keysplayr]

I realize this, and that's the problem. Would it kill Nvidia to set a launch date and let us know? Otherwise for all we know Kepler will be launched in 2 weeks or 2 months.

If they say it's in two weeks, they'll be attacked and it'll be called paper launch. If they say two months, they'll be attacked for not offering competition to AMD. You know what dude, they can't win. All they can do, is do what they do. Which is quite impressive to me.

 

[Keysplayr]

The tension is because day after day it's not here. Just sayin

No, the tension is sort of fabricated. Was it because of Charlie D's "prediction" that everyone is having a heart attack?

Well, it serves them right listening to that guy, LOL :biggrin:

 

[3DVagabond]

So, we'll have a little miracle here, lower TDP, smaller chip, better performance than Tahiti XP. Except we have to pay lots of money to play with this little wonder boy.

I have a feeling that GK110 will never come for us. It will go straight into HPC and Teslas and Quadros. So, prepare for the new GTX680, "performance-part-turned-high-end" because the competition was unable to deliver. Midrange remains unchanged, same performance as last year for the same money (both AMD and NV). I am dissapointed.

I understand what you are saying here. If SI was faster than nVidia would be compelled to make a faster card as well. It appears to me though that this is the best nVidia can offer. Or can maybe offer soonish. It also appears that AMD had planned a somewhat bigger chip, but never released it. Ever stop to consider that we are getting the best they can produce?

 

[Keysplayr]

So never-accurate makes up a date, and it doesnt hit, so nV is somehow trolling?

Que?

Likes this ^

 

[Crap Daddy]

I understand what you are saying here. If SI was faster than nVidia would be compelled to make a faster card as well. It appears to me though that this is the best nVidia can offer. Or can maybe offer soonish. It also appears that AMD had planned a somewhat bigger chip, but never released it. Ever stop to consider that we are getting the best they can produce?

I'm sure they offer the best they can produce. As usual lately, Nvidia offers a better performer.

 

[tviceman]

So, we'll have a little miracle here, lower TDP, smaller chip, better performance than Tahiti XP. Except we have to pay lots of money to play with this little wonder boy.

I have a feeling that GK110 will never come for us. It will go straight into HPC and Teslas and Quadros. So, prepare for the new GTX680, "performance-part-turned-high-end" because the competition was unable to deliver. Midrange remains unchanged, same performance as last year for the same money (both AMD and NV). I am dissapointed.

Nvidia has been using their flagship chip as a dual-purpose GPU for 3 generations now. It's entirely a part of their big-die strategy and they simply do not have enough sales in the professional space to constitute all the R&D and marketing that goes with a 500mm^2 die.

 

[blackened23]

So, we'll have a little miracle here, lower TDP, smaller chip, better performance than Tahiti XP. Except we have to pay lots of money to play with this little wonder boy.

I have a feeling that GK110 will never come for us. It will go straight into HPC and Teslas and Quadros. So, prepare for the new GTX680, "performance-part-turned-high-end" because the competition was unable to deliver. Midrange remains unchanged, same performance as last year for the same money (both AMD and NV). I am dissapointed.

And another FOTM religious apple loyalist delivers. Declaring a winner before anything official is out and making ridiculous blanket statements. Love you guys. Thats why I love apple to death, their fans are so awesome! They never fail to disappoint :thumbsup: I'm just kidding , i love you etc.

Commence foaming at the mouth. I know I am.

 

[sontin]

If they say it's in two weeks, they'll be attacked and it'll be called paper launch. If they say two months, they'll be attacked for not offering competition to AMD. You know what dude, they can't win. All they can do, is do what they do. Which is quite impressive to me.

We need only go back two years for nVidia's anouncement of an announcement, their 2 Whitepapers, their teasers etc. And what was the result? They were critizied by the same people who want now more information. :awe:

I think after they saw the performance of Tahiti nVidia decided not to talk about kepler in the public. Andrew Fear said they are not allowed to talk about their next-gen products at the ces. The only thing they published is the statement of Huang in the CC and this little bit:
"Kepler it's just a home run."

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

So, we'll have a little miracle here, lower TDP, smaller chip, better performance than Tahiti XP. Except we have to pay lots of money to play with this little wonder boy.

I have a feeling that GK110 will never come for us. It will go straight into HPC and Teslas and Quadros. So, prepare for the new GTX680, "performance-part-turned-high-end" because the competition was unable to deliver. Midrange remains unchanged, same performance as last year for the same money (both AMD and NV). I am dissapointed.

Yeah, it's AMD's fault that NVIDIA doesn't have a single working sample of GK110... sure.

Also, you don't think that Tahiti and GK104 are high-end, yet you keep yapping on about GK110 when it will be launched only by the end of the year and by then AMD can release Tenerife to compete?

 

[tviceman]

He didn't deny my statement that the Kepler flagship wouldn't show up for several more months, by which time AMD might be close to a refresh on 28nm.

Then 28nm GPU war is going to end up just like it did on 40nm, insofar as the pecking order. AMD releases first gen 28nm, beats Nvidia's previous gen. Nvidia releases first gen 28nm, beats AMD. Nvidia releases faster 28nm, beats AMD by even more. AMD releases 2nd gen 28nm, doesn't catch up but closes the gap. The major differences this time around - AMD's lead to market is 10-11 weeks (instead of 26 weeks) but Nvidia's first generation 28nm will beat AMD's flagship in performance, performance per watt, and performance per mm^2. The only thing that is "better" about AMD's situation, IMO, is Pitcairn and how well it performs on all metrics. There hasn't even been a sniff of verifiable GK106 information, but even so I don't think it will take the "triple crown" from pitcairn (performance, tdp, and die size).

 

[notty22]

And another FOTM religious apple fanboy delivers. Declaring a winner before anything official is out and making ridiculous blanket statements. Love you guys. Thats why I love apple to death, their fanboys are so awesome! They never fail to disappoint :thumbsup: I'm just kidding , i love you etc.

Carry on apologists

What is your obsession with bringing in Apple fanboys to your strange arguments. You must secretly want a Ipad HD this Friday ? LOL

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

I'm sure they offer the best they can produce. As usual lately, Nvidia offers a better performer.

I'm sure the Radeon HD 5870 wasn't the fastest single-GPU card for six months. I'm also sure the HD 5970 was slower than the fastest NVIDIA had until the GTX 590 was released, the GTX 295 and GTX 480. Speaking of the GTX 590, I'm sure the HD 6990 was slower too and they didn't have the same performance.

AMD hasn't been able to compete with the cards below those, either, when it comes either to performance or price. The HD 4850, 4870, 5670, 5770, 5850, 6790, 6850, 6870, and 6950 NEVER existed. I just made them up.