[Semiaccurate] GK104/Kepler/GTX680 Next Week?

[BallaTheFeared]

Ivy Bridge and Kepler, time to bust out your PSU's from 1995.

 

[railven]

Ivy Bridge and Kepler, time to bust out your PSU's from 1995.

But that PSU didn't have 6+6 pin connectors

So if this thing draws <150Ws (since its off one PSU and it has a Processor, Ram, etc to power too) this thing must have no external power at all - 150w directly from the BUS!

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Kepler actually generates it's own power through sheer force of awesomeness. :thumbsup:

 

[X98]

lol win

 

[nitromullet]

Out of all the stuff newegg carries they do not carry a single ATX PSU below 250W. Any 200W PSU you will find is either SFX12V or Mini-ITX.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...0007657 600014015&IsNodeId=1&name=200W - 250W

He expects us to beleive that Epic specifically sought out the crappiest PSU they could find to demo their next generation engine on a pre-release Kepler card? Somehow, I'm not buying it...

 

[3DVagabond]

Out of all the stuff newegg carries they do not carry a single ATX PSU below 250W. Any 200W PSU you will find is either SFX12V or Mini-ITX.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...00W%20-%20250W

He expects us to beleive that Epic specifically sought out the crappiest PSU they could find to demo their next generation engine on a pre-release Kepler card? Somehow, I'm not buying it...

That's only because the 2 squirrels that were running on the treadmill were on their union breaks and they had to use something.

 

[Leadbox]

Oh boi...talking about barking at the wrong tree

:whiste:




http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-03-08-gdc-epic-aiming-to-get-samaritan-into-flash

Just to be clear here mate, you actually believe they ran this demo that previously required 3 580s and a small nuclear reactor, on a rig with a 200 watt power supply?

 

[Don Karnage]

If kepler comes out and destroy's my 7970's expect them to be cheap and available in the for sale section

 

[Quantos]

200W to power the whole system? Really? :sneaky:

Well the wording is very clear, that's what is written in the article. That seems very unlikely, though D:

 

[railven]

So, because Newegg are being douches and or douches, I got her a Corsair 600 gaming series PSU. Not sure why she wants the LED, but she demanded it haha. WTB GTX 670 Ti! Hopefully it doesn't need it's own 200W PSU

Actually, I recall someone jokingly saying nVidia invested in PSU companies. Guess it's come full circle. Explains the new connector, must be proprietary. GeForce PSU's come in 200-600W (for Tri-SLI) flavors. You heard it here first

 

[lavaheadache]

If kepler comes out and destroy's my 7970's expect them to be cheap and available in the for sale section

ditto, higher performing cards are always welcomed in the realm of 2560x1600 and 120 hz monitors.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Something must have made every OEM including Apple sign Nvidia for Kepler


Haters gonna hate though...

What does that say about your beloved Fermi? Apple dumped Nvidia for AMD before, remember?


I think you, and Charlie from SA, put too much wieght into Apple and OEM's moving between AMD and Nvidia. Companies are looking for a part that fits their needs for the best price all the time. Where I work we've bounced between HP and Dell a few times, others have been looked at as well. It is simply nothing more than a price/performance ratio (and support I suppose as well).

 

[MrK6]

ditto, higher performing cards are always welcomed in the realm of 2560x1600 and 120 hz monitors.

Thirded. However, Kepler's going to be competing against a 7970 @ 1325MHz for me, so the bar has been set pretty high.

What does that say about your beloved Fermi? Apple dumped Nvidia for AMD before, remember?


I think you, and Charlie from SA, put too much wieght into Apple and OEM's moving between AMD and Nvidia. Companies are looking for a part that fits their needs for the best price all the time. Where I work we've bounced between HP and Dell a few times, others have been looked at as well. It is simply nothing more than a price/performance ratio (and support I suppose as well).

Fanboys will grasp at any and everything to promote "their side." No card available? Let's trash the competitor's. Competitor's is awesome? Let's play armchair CEO. We should have a flowchart so we can call it, maybe I'll make one.

 

[dangerman1337]

Just to be clear here mate, you actually believe they ran this demo that previously required 3 580s and a small nuclear reactor, on a rig with a 200 watt power supply?

IIRC Epic said that Samaritan could run on a single 580 before and they said 10 times the power of the Xbox was needed to run samaritan smoothly at 1080p.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

What does that say about your beloved Fermi? Apple dumped Nvidia for AMD before, remember?

My needs aren't the same as Apples?

I can't see apple running a custom water cooling system with several feet of tubing allowing rads to be placed outside a room, outside the house, or in the basement.

But then I wanted a system where the only parts affecting my room temp were the monitors and mobo. But I also didn't have a lot to spend... A 580 was over $500 and wouldn't allow me to do any of that, while a 6970 was $370, wouldn't allow me to do that, and was slower in many titles than the 580. There was another card though which I knew could provide the performance of a stock 580 for considerably less invested, including the cooling system that took away the biggest problem with high end computers... Heat displacement.

A gtx 470 for $150, a block for $80, heat removal, low operating temps, great overclockability, all for less than a 6970, less than a 580, both of which would dump 200+ watts of heat into my room.

The difference between being happy with my setup, and being a fanboy is that I don't go into every "recommend me" thread telling people to get GTX 470s. In fact I have never once recommend someone purchase one. It may have served my needs, but I don't presume to believe mine are shared by all. I'm also not so far inside Nvidia that I'd post fake benchmark scores with reduced settings via the driver to inflate my stance on an overpriced mid ranged card.

So in the future, please don't lump me into the mess that is Anandtech's brand loyalist group, which already has more than enough members on each side.

AMD makes great cards, Nvidia makes great cards, each company can hit a niche within a niche market with all their products, pick and choose which product from either company best fills your specific needs, anything less is doing it wrong.

 

[MrK6]

I think it's best when people rewrite history because they completely get destroyed in their own remarks. Anybody else want to find some recent quotations on this board about how awesome GTX 470's are? I'm sure there's plenty .

 

[SolMiester]

I think it's best when people rewrite history because they completely get destroyed in their own remarks. Anybody else want to find some recent quotations on this board about how awesome GTX 470's are? I'm sure there's plenty .

We get it, you don't like nVidia cards, move on!

 

[blackened23]

IIRC Epic said that Samaritan could run on a single 580 before and they said 10 times the power of the Xbox was needed to run samaritan smoothly at 1080p.

Did anyone miss the fact that the demo ran at 10 fps on a single kepler?

Or was it only me that noticed?

So it runs on a single kepler...but does it run the demo better than tri sli 580s? No way in hell....

 

[notty22]

Did anyone miss the fact that the demo ran at 10 fps on a single kepler?

Or was it only me that noticed?

So it runs on a single kepler...but does it run the demo better than tri sli 580s? No way in hell....

Was there a FPS OSD that showed this ? Picture, link ?

 

[boxleitnerb]

Did anyone miss the fact that the demo ran at 10 fps on a single kepler?

Or was it only me that noticed?

So it runs on a single kepler...but does it run the demo better than tri sli 580s? No way in hell....

You gotta be joking. Proof please.

 

[dangerman1337]

Did anyone miss the fact that the demo ran at 10 fps on a single kepler?

Or was it only me that noticed?

So it runs on a single kepler...but does it run the demo better than tri sli 580s? No way in hell....

Is there a video of the demo running on a Kepler? I can't seem to find it.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Did anyone miss the fact that the demo ran at 10 fps on a single kepler?

Or was it only me that noticed?

So it runs on a single kepler...but does it run the demo better than tri sli 580s? No way in hell....

10 fps probably still looks better than CF microstutter.

 

[blackened23]

10 fps probably still looks better than CF microstutter.

:thumbsup:, but since you bring it up I specifically looked for MS and there was none. I have seen MS before on both nv + amd products.

I expect someone to tell me i'm crazy or something and need my eyes checked...Anyway, the report was from someone I know attending GDC. I'm sure someone will yell at me for more proof but i'm sure you can ask around. I'm sure videos will hit the web in the coming days with all the proof you need :thumbsup: The account I heard was spefically, (condensed version) looked amazing, but framerate wasn't optimized yet. My entire point is that a single kepler probably isn't going to run it better than tri sli 580s.

 

[Arzachel]

10 fps probably still looks better than CF microstutter.

Welp, we've hit ground floor.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

:thumbsup:

Not sure what the point of that graph is...