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I dont think running two antivirus programs is a good idea either. Getting a second opinion using one of the online scanners should be enough. I trust Panda but I use the Symantec and Pccillian online scanner every other week to be safe.
 

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I don't think it's a good idea to run two anti-virus apps at once. So many of them have resident auto-protect, the OS hooks are likely to fight each other for control and cause instability.

I use two,the trick is to use one for real time scanning and emails,while you leave the other for manual scans when needed,infact I use Bitdefender Pro 7.2 has my main AV program and the one in VCOM SystemSuite V5 (made by Trend Micro) to scan my downloaded files when I use my Download Express file manager program,have not had any problems with either using them this way,also having the option to check a file or program with a manual scan from a second AV program is not a bad thing.

Just remember to only have one on for active real time scanning and emails and you should have no problems.
 

Ludacris

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I'm all for redundancy but I wouldn't install 2 antivirus programs on one PC. Maybe install the second program on a second PC and map drives to do another scan. The best defense though is common sense.

1. Always patch your PC with Windows Update. XP Service PAck 2 will ask you to update after every reboot and this dialogue will fill up your screen.

2. Don't open e-mail from people you don't know and avoid joke attachments. Use good e-mail filters.

3. Avoid P2P applications and warez.
 

TheRoni

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Originally posted by: Spudd
Originally posted by: rnp614
Originally posted by: TheRoni
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned or not, but Panda Platinum (includes a firewall) is availiable for IT professionals and for students, etc. here. It's a great value for free, and it works quite well. Updates daily, and as long as you still qualify the next year, you get free yearly subscriptions. Enjoy!


-TheRoni

damnit and I just bought a 6 month subscribption of titanium haha....

It's not available for students, only IT Professionals though.

That's what I thought too, Spudd, but then I selected my honest category (student) and it went through. Everything works great. Enjoy!

Doh! I didn't realize the OP had the offer on his post already.

 

Spudd

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Originally posted by: TheRoni
Originally posted by: Spudd
Originally posted by: rnp614
Originally posted by: TheRoni
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned or not, but Panda Platinum (includes a firewall) is availiable for IT professionals and for students, etc. here. It's a great value for free, and it works quite well. Updates daily, and as long as you still qualify the next year, you get free yearly subscriptions. Enjoy!


-TheRoni

damnit and I just bought a 6 month subscribption of titanium haha....

It's not available for students, only IT Professionals though.

That's what I thought too, Spudd, but then I selected my honest category (student) and it went through. Everything works great. Enjoy!

Doh! I didn't realize the OP had the offer on his post already.

Really? It's worded to seem as though you had to be a tech guy IN an educational institution to get it. Did you just type in your school addy? Interesting.......

Might check it out, but didn't MDesigner confirm that Titanium actually has a better virus detection engine?
 

deadseasquirrel

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Originally posted by: Ludacris
2. Don't open e-mail from people you don't know

while i agree this is good advice, i would also say to go a step further and not automatically trust emails from people you DO know. the way worms work these days is by affecting someone then using their address book to send itself further. people tend to trust attachments from family members and friends too much.
 

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Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
Originally posted by: Ludacris
2. Don't open e-mail from people you don't know

while i agree this is good advice, i would also say to go a step further and not automatically trust emails from people you DO know. the way worms work these days is by affecting someone then using their address book to send itself further. people tend to trust attachments from family members and friends too much.
My policy is as such: I never open attachments from family and friends that just send random crap. For "trusted" friends (none of my relatives are tech literate enough to get in my "trusted" list), I only open the attachment if they've already told me to expect it, and even then I tread carefully.

That policy, plus religious security patching via Windows Update, plus the "inferior" Norton AV 2003 has never allowed me to get a virus. I'll still probably switch to one of the other better AV programs soon, though... I'm thinking about Bitdefender Pro 7.2.
 

MDesigner

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Originally posted by: Smilin
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EICAR test is a joke. Any antivirus app can catch that... because it's meant to be a test and nothing more. A true test of an antivirus app is to throw it REAL world stuff and see if it can take it.

By the way, has anyone tried the new Panda Titanium 2004 v3.01.00 that came out recently? I'm having SERIOUS probs with it... it keeps disabling its auto protect and other weird crap. I'm not happy with it and will let tech support know tomorrow.
 

Spudd

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Originally posted by: MDesigner
Originally posted by: Smilin
See Signature.

EICAR test is a joke. Any antivirus app can catch that... because it's meant to be a test and nothing more. A true test of an antivirus app is to throw it REAL world stuff and see if it can take it.

By the way, has anyone tried the new Panda Titanium 2004 v3.01.00 that came out recently? I'm having SERIOUS probs with it... it keeps disabling its auto protect and other weird crap. I'm not happy with it and will let tech support know tomorrow.

No probs here, yet anyway.
 

Originally posted by: MDesigner
Originally posted by: Smilin
See Signature.

EICAR test is a joke. Any antivirus app can catch that... because it's meant to be a test and nothing more. A true test of an antivirus app is to throw it REAL world stuff and see if it can take it.

By the way, has anyone tried the new Panda Titanium 2004 v3.01.00 that came out recently? I'm having SERIOUS probs with it... it keeps disabling its auto protect and other weird crap. I'm not happy with it and will let tech support know tomorrow.


No problems for me either. Running XP Pro with all the updates. Auto protect enabled, heuristic scan enabled, Periodic self diagnosis turned off.
 

TheRoni

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Originally posted by: Spudd
Originally posted by: TheRoni
Originally posted by: Spudd
Originally posted by: rnp614
Originally posted by: TheRoni
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned or not, but Panda Platinum (includes a firewall) is availiable for IT professionals and for students, etc. here. It's a great value for free, and it works quite well. Updates daily, and as long as you still qualify the next year, you get free yearly subscriptions. Enjoy!


-TheRoni

damnit and I just bought a 6 month subscribption of titanium haha....

It's not available for students, only IT Professionals though.

That's what I thought too, Spudd, but then I selected my honest category (student) and it went through. Everything works great. Enjoy!

Doh! I didn't realize the OP had the offer on his post already.

Really? It's worded to seem as though you had to be a tech guy IN an educational institution to get it. Did you just type in your school addy? Interesting.......

Might check it out, but didn't MDesigner confirm that Titanium actually has a better virus detection engine?

Actually, I just typed "school" and it was accepted. ;) I picked "OTHER: Student" from the list, and it was accepted. I got my license code almost immediately. You then have to register with the site to get your "serial code," but it's pretty painless. It mentioned to me that I will always qualify for updates as long as I can continue to prove my eligibility. Pretty good for a free AV with a good firewall, too! Enjoy!
 

axemanxt40

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Lastly and most importantly, I saw a bunch of people with AVG free edition and they said it caught 5 outta 7...but does someone has results for the professional edition?

I know Panda caught all of them, but Panda is 40 bucks for a 1 year license. However, AVG Pro is 33 bucks for a 2 year license. So if AVG pro catches all of them I'd probably save a few bucks and go with AVG pro over Panda.

I apologize if someone stated this already , I probably read over it as I am very tired.

Thanks.
 

TheRoni

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OK, here's my results using Norton AV Corporate, Bitdefender, and Panda Titanium.

Norton caught 5, disinfected/quarantined 5. Bitdefender found all 7, but did not do a thing about them. Panda caught and removed 5 just like Norton. Is there something I'm doing wrong with bitdefender? I am using the free version.

Well, there's my results. Thanks for the post, OP!
 

Smilin

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Originally posted by: MDesigner
Originally posted by: Smilin
See Signature.

EICAR test is a joke. Any antivirus app can catch that... because it's meant to be a test and nothing more. A true test of an antivirus app is to throw it REAL world stuff and see if it can take it.

By the way, has anyone tried the new Panda Titanium 2004 v3.01.00 that came out recently? I'm having SERIOUS probs with it... it keeps disabling its auto protect and other weird crap. I'm not happy with it and will let tech support know tomorrow.

I don't get the joke then.

It's supposed to test if your antivirus is running. It obviously doesn't check for the detection of any viruses other than itself. It's not even mean to see if you have up to date defs.

If you want to send a real virus out to all the clients on your network to see if your antivirus is working go ahead though :)
Don't forget: Your job is only as secure as your last backup.
 

Spudd

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Originally posted by: Smilin
Originally posted by: MDesigner
Originally posted by: Smilin
See Signature.

EICAR test is a joke. Any antivirus app can catch that... because it's meant to be a test and nothing more. A true test of an antivirus app is to throw it REAL world stuff and see if it can take it.

By the way, has anyone tried the new Panda Titanium 2004 v3.01.00 that came out recently? I'm having SERIOUS probs with it... it keeps disabling its auto protect and other weird crap. I'm not happy with it and will let tech support know tomorrow.

I don't get the joke then.

It's supposed to test if your antivirus is running. It obviously doesn't check for the detection of any viruses other than itself. It's not even mean to see if you have up to date defs.

If you want to send a real virus out to all the clients on your network to see if your antivirus is working go ahead though :)
Don't forget: Your job is only as secure as your last backup.

MDesigner's point is that EICAR doesn't test how WELL an antivirus scanner works. One way to test such a thing is to actually put an virus in front of it and see if it catches it--as is quite clear from this thread, a number of virus programs fall short of finding all the virii in the test zip.

 

axemanxt40

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Anyone got any responses about AVG Pro, please my Norton 2002 subscription dies in 2 days and I'd like to pick the best protection/value anti virus software. AVG for 2 years and 33 bucks beats panda for 1 year and 40 bucks...but its not worth it unless its as good as Panda!
 

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AVG for 2 years and 33 bucks beats panda for 1 year and 40 bucks...but its not worth it unless its as good as Panda!

There`s nothing stopping you trying the free 30 day trial period for AVG 7 Professional from here ;).
 

axemanxt40

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Ok well I tried the AVG Pro trial and it only found 5 out of 8 in that lastest zip.

It is program version 7.0.225, virus base 262.4.1 which was released 3/9/2004. So I bought Panda Titanium 2004 for 6 months, thanks to everyone else especially Mdesigner for creating/contributing to this thread. If I didn't read this I would have just renewed my Norton 2002 subscription for another year, saying Norton is the best.

However I just want to double check that there is no way I could have infected my PC if I didn't unzip it (I just ran a right click scan on the zip)? Also AVG didn't seem very straight forward with removal options it said it couldn't heal anything, so the way I deleted it was right click the zip delete, then empty recycling bin. This will have gotten rid of it and not caused any problems correct?

Thanks again all!
 

MDesigner

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I hate to feel responsible for this, but the latest Panda update (3.01.00) sucks big time. I emailed the VP of communications for the USA. We'll see what happens. Anyone else update yet, and have issues with it? I hope they resolve the issues..cuz Panda 3.00.00 was pretty solid.

Anyway, about EICAR.. it's just a simple test string. All it really does is show that your antivirus app knows what EICAR is. :) It shows that it's functioning, not that it's "in the know."
 

axemanxt40

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Well I just bought it tonight...I didn't give it the test again because I am fairly paranoid in terms of computer viruses and security. But so far the 3.01 engine hasn't given me the one problem you mentioned which was auto protect randomly disabling itself.

Were there other problems that it was giving you, if so mention them and other Panda owners can keep an eye out for them. But as of right now it seems to run like your standard antivirus program should!
 

MDesigner

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Let's see.. well, I run POPFile for anti-spam, which runs locally as a POP3 proxy. POPFile is always locking up when Panda is installed & running. WeatherWatcher was getting locked up too. Outlook 2003 sometimes hangs when checking e-mail. Sometimes I'm unable to log off (WinXP) or reboot. And when I do manage to reboot, often times there's a hung process called "Centinel VxD" which I think is part of Panda.

It's just a mess. Anyone else having issues with 3.01.00? It's almost as if it's checking network activity and trying to block it... I don't want a firewall app! I just want the damn thing to check for viruses.... argh
 

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Bitdefender 7.2 Pro is still working great,updates are now sometimes twice a day,I redownloaded the virus pack and Bitdefender came up with the alert as I unzipped them and found them all,I deleted them :).



Been using Bitdefender for about 4 or 5 weeks now and I can`t fault it at all.Firewall side is also solid.

:)
 

simms

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Originally posted by: MDesigner
Let's see.. well, I run POPFile for anti-spam, which runs locally as a POP3 proxy. POPFile is always locking up when Panda is installed & running. WeatherWatcher was getting locked up too. Outlook 2003 sometimes hangs when checking e-mail. Sometimes I'm unable to log off (WinXP) or reboot. And when I do manage to reboot, often times there's a hung process called "Centinel VxD" which I think is part of Panda.

It's just a mess. Anyone else having issues with 3.01.00? It's almost as if it's checking network activity and trying to block it... I don't want a firewall app! I just want the damn thing to check for viruses.... argh

why not just disable the firewall and enable the virus/mail? that's what i did, platnium is alright with me..