Schiff Issues Subpoena for Whistleblower Complaint Being Unlawfully Withheld

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After the 2016 election, everybody & their dog knows it's illegal for a campaign to accept anything of value from a foreign govt. Well, except maybe Trump & Giuliani, who appear to be soliciting it...

Obvious Quid Pro Quo. It's over for him.
When he told the the Ukrainian President that he wouldn't get his $Billion in loan guarantees until he fired the prosecutor investigating his son ? "and son of a bitch he did it"

Tuesday, Jan. 23rd 2018
"Biden"
"So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. (Laughter.) I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time. "
 
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Obvious Quid Pro Quo. It's over for him.
When he told the the Ukrainian President that he wouldn't get his $Billion in loan guarantees until he fired the prosecutor investigating his son ? "and son of a bitch he did it"

Tuesday, Jan. 23rd 2018
"Biden"
"So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. (Laughter.) I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time. "

The company who his son worked for when he was on the board.
They were not investigating him. Waddaya feel about Trump U?
 

Jhhnn

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Obvious Quid Pro Quo. It's over for him.
When he told the the Ukrainian President that he wouldn't get his $Billion in loan guarantees until he fired the prosecutor investigating his son ? "and son of a bitch he did it"

Tuesday, Jan. 23rd 2018
"Biden"
"So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. (Laughter.) I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time. "

I'm sure that quote & link was given to you as a talking point, and a dishonest one at that. You obviously didn't read the article. There's no evidence that the dismissed prosecutor was investigating Biden's son at the time or that he was anything other than corrupt-

Shokin was appointed General Prosecutor of Ukraine on 10 February 2015.[4] He became deeply unpopular and was accused of blocking major cases against allies and influential figures and hindering the fight against corruption in Ukraine.[5] Various street protests demanding Shokin's resignation were held[6] and his Deputy Prosecutor, Vitaly Kasko, resigned on 15 February 2016 denouncing the corruption and lawlessness of the Prosecutor's office. US Vice-President Joe Biden lobbied for Shokin resignation and the Obama Administration withheld a billion dollars in loan guarantees for the time Shokin held office


It's not like Biden was running for office & desirous of dirt on the opposition at the time, either. It's also perfectly obvious that Obama backed the play.

The current govt of Ukraine has offered they'd investigate the younger Biden if the US made a formal request & stated reason for doing so, as well. It's crickets & bullshit from the Trump admin...
 

pcgeek11

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Just wondering what is your line he should not cross regarding finding dirt on opponents?
What would it look like to you regarding a foreign Government


In general terms: If he is found to be using his office or position as President as a way to trade favors, money, goods etc for information or dirt for political gain.

It is easy to say they should just put the information out there about the complaint, but we do not know what is in it. It will come out in time.
 
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Jhhnn

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In general terms: If he is found to be using his office or position as President as a way to trade favors, money, goods etc for information or dirt for political gain.

It is illegal for any political campaign to receive anything of value from a foreign govt, let alone solicit it. Trump DGAF because he thinks he's above the law.
 
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In general terms: If he is found to be using his office or position as President as a way to trade favors, money, goods etc for information or dirt for political gain.

It is easy to say they should just put the information out there about the complaint, but we do not know what is in it. It will come out in time.

Are you curious to know where the extra $140 million Trump released to Ukraine came from...and what it was for??

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zinfamous

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last two days I've been thinking...you all remember when Rudy took that bizarre trip to Ukraine about 1-2 months ago, right? :D




oh wait, he canceled it!


or not

who knows, right?
 

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In general terms: If he is found to be using his office or position as President as a way to trade favors, money, goods etc for information or dirt for political gain.

It is easy to say they should just put the information out there about the complaint, but we do not know what is in it. It will come out in time.

He's already done that, and it's already been shown.

Obviously, you don't care. You've already hand-waved away his hotels, accommodating foreign nationals (MBS for one, "the founders of Al Qaeda" (Trump voice) who murdered a US-based journalist, with Trump's support) for political favors on top of personal; funneling your money to the military in overseas hotels (only to Trump's benefit)...ah fuck I'm tired of pointed out how many times this syphilitic mushroom princess has raped you in the ass, and you've enjoyed it endlessly.

seriously though: when will you actually care? not this empty bullshit that you post on the internet--when will you actually care about the reality in front of your face?

Honest question: have you lost friends and family because you've gone fucking insane the last couple of years?
 

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Are you curious to know where the extra $140 million Trump released to Ukraine came from...and what it was for??

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It said that THEY are EXPECTING it. It doesn't say that they got an extra 140 Million. Yes I would be curious as to where it came from and why. Time will tell.
 

pcgeek11

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He's already done that, and it's already been shown.

Obviously, you don't care. You've already hand-waved away his hotels, accommodating foreign nationals (MBS for one, "the founders of Al Qaeda" (Trump voice) who murdered a US-based journalist, with Trump's support) for political favors on top of personal; funneling your money to the military in overseas hotels (only to Trump's benefit)...ah fuck I'm tired of pointed out how many times this syphilitic mushroom princess has raped you in the ass, and you've enjoyed it endlessly.

seriously though: when will you actually care? not this empty bullshit that you post on the internet--when will you actually care about the reality in front of your face?

Honest question: have you lost friends and family because you've gone fucking insane the last couple of years?

You have no idea what I think or believe. :)

Talking about empty. IF he has done all of these things that you say he has then why doesn't Pelosi and Congress do something?

You say that it is proven then why has nothing stuck?
Is Trump too smart for the Democrats to handle?
According to you he is dumb as a box of rocks.
 

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You think Mitch will allow any of this to be fixed?

He is the true public enemy number one here, he is who has completely broken the normal function of government and made Trump untouchable.

And didn't Mitch sue Obama over non-confirmed cabinet members and now every one in the Trump Admin is "acting."

No, I think the dems have to retake the Senate then get rid of the filibuster.
 

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You have no idea what I think or believe. :)

Talking about empty. IF he has done all of these things that you say he has then why doesn't Pelosi and Congress do something?

You say that it is proven then why has nothing stuck?
Is Trump too smart for the Democrats to handle?
According to you he is dumb as a box of rocks.

Ignorance is bliss!
 

ch33zw1z

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You have no idea what I think or believe. :)

Talking about empty. IF he has done all of these things that you say he has then why doesn't Pelosi and Congress do something?

You say that it is proven then why has nothing stuck?
Is Trump too smart for the Democrats to handle?
According to you he is dumb as a box of rocks.

Maybe we would know more about you if you would stop being so super secret about it...lol.

Why doesn't anything happen? You'll have to take that up with #MoscowMitch and #LeningradLindsay

Nobody is buying your "huh? Whuh?" routine.
 

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No, I think the dems have to retake the Senate then get rid of the filibuster.

Judging from Pelosi in the house I'm not sure if those on top of the food chain will fix things of substance if it were within their power. Right now she isn't having any of it.
 
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Politics is like the quantum world. Don't bet on anything until you witness it and even then...

I fully agree, just saying that pledge plus her close vote to head would likely mean she is out. Especially if she didn’t want to rattle the boat.
However I agree nothing is politics is a certainty
 

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It's pretty sad when a grown man blindly defends someone he has never met or talked to before. Says a lot about their character.
 

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Judging from Pelosi in the house I'm not sure if those on top of the food chain will fix things of substance if it were within their power. Right now she isn't having any of it.

The old guard Ds are too timid to deal with somebody like Trump and Co. Kind of like Mueller they are unequipped to grapple with what they are facing. It's time for many of them to move aside.
 
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