Say what you will, but Tebow freaking wins.

[gorcorps]

45-1 works out to ~3.5:1 for each game. Probably closer to 3:1 for the Pats game. Obviously, NE has a higher chance of winning, but the Broncos have the pieces to make it a fight.

The last time they played, Denver put up 160 some rushing yards in the 1st quarter and was up 9 points. Then, of course, they turned the ball over 3 times leading to 17 NE points to put the game out of reach. Historically this season, Denver doesn't turn the ball over that much so the 13 point spread is too high, if we're just talking about probabilities.

The key to beating NE has always been to control the time of possession to keep their crazy offense off the field and put tons of pressure on Brady with a 4 man rush. Denver has the possibility to do it with the run game and with Dumervil/Miller.

So while NE should win the game, they should have won the SB in 2007 too when the spread was 12.5.

Agreed. Without the silly mistakes that would have been a much closer game. If Denver has learned and McGahee can hold on to the damned ball they have more of a shot than people are giving them credit for. They already proved they can score on the defense, now they need to prove they can score more AND learn how to stop them from doing the same. Brady needs to be pressured or he'll be spot on all day.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I was just thinking that myself. Maybe a lot of people were bored yesterday and it was the only thing on.

QFT-There was nothing else on.

I had it on for most of the game but was doing other things while it was on. I watched a good bit of the Giants game (my Step-Dad is a Giants fan) and the Saints/Lions game on Saturday too. Didn't really care about Texans or the Bengals so I didn't watch any of that game.

Should be some more good matchups this coming weekend as well. Wouldn't mind seeing the 49ers beat the Saints (I know the Director of Football Operations and Sports Medicine for the 49ers-used to work with him).

I work with a few guys who are from Boston so I'll root for the Pats on their behalf.

 

[Genx87]

Lack of mobility to extend plays like he normally does, particularly against a very stout defense - yeah, Ben's ankle probably played a huge role. Much more than you're willing to admit obviously.

You can make whatever excuse you want for Big Ben not living upto your standards.

 

[PimpJuice]

Agreed. Without the silly mistakes that would have been a much closer game. If Denver has learned and McGahee can hold on to the damned ball they have more of a shot than people are giving them credit for. They already proved they can score on the defense, now they need to prove they can score more AND learn how to stop them from doing the same. Brady needs to be pressured or he'll be spot on all day.

You can't fault McGahee for that fumble. It looked like he held on to it pretty well, the Steelers just made a hell of a play to knock it out. It wasn't like he was being careless with it.

If the Broncos have no turnovers, they can win this game. You can't give the Pats good field position and extra possessions with their short game and those 2 TEs.

 

[HomerJS]

Tebow claimed he is a virgin.

Not any more. He just fucked the entire city of Pittsburgh

 

[JulesMaximus]

Tebow claimed he is a virgin.

Not any more. He just fucked the entire city of Pittsburgh

They've been fucked before. Hell, the Packers fucked them last year in the Superbowl.

 

[Perknose]

Tebow claimed he is a virgin.

Not any more. He just fucked the entire city of Pittsburgh

:biggrin:

Virgin prior, though? Not so sure. Other men in suspiciously tight pants have been seen before on national TV cradling his balls.

And let's face it, the NFL itself has documented stats showing he's "scored" repeatedly this year. As if to remove any doubt, he's apparently done this by entering what these degenerates call the "end zone." D:

 

[AstroManLuca]

Virgin prior, though? Not so sure. Other men in suspiciously tight pants have been seen before on national TV cradling his balls.

While others claimed that he would be a great tight end.

 

[lupi]

Holy hell, 25.9? I think the world series and nba finals only pull like 15-20 per game...

not sure about mlb, but the other crap is happy when it breaks a 10, a feat it's struggled to accomplish last couple of years after some drops.

 

[a123456]

not sure about mlb, but the other crap is happy when it breaks a 10, a feat it's struggled to accomplish last couple of years after some drops.

Yeah, but football is no comparison to other sports because of the importance of each game and the whole attitude of football in general (party and watch football on Sundays). The NBA and MLB don't get as much attention per game because of the 7 game series thing instead of the NFL where every game is a "game 7."

Mavs-Heat got ~10, which is way lower than all the normal TV shows like American Idol. Even game 6 only got 13.3. Jordan's years was 15-18 throughout and the all-time high. When he retired, the ratings went immediately down to 11 and never recovered ever. Game 6 in 1998 got 22.

Of course, football is a more popular sport in general with the SB ratings higher than anything ever. The 2011 SB had the most ever viewers, which broke the last record of the 2010 SB, which broke the record of the series finale of MASH, which had the record since 1983.

I do have to say that the major downside to this the lack of attention that everything else gets. I was listening to ESPN talk in the background. Out of 90 minutes, about 80 minutes were devoted to Tebow. 5 mins to the other 3 playoff games and 5 mins to the LSU-Alabama game. That's it. Nothing else. So Brees and Eli go out and play really well but they get a couple sentences in there before moving back to Tebow again.

I assume it's because they get way higher ratings when reporting on Tebow but it still sucks for all the other athletes that play well.

 

[Muse]

Tebow rocked yesterday. The guy has a lot of heart.

No, I didn't watch 80 minutes of commentary on Tebow on ESPN, that would sicken me. I don't have subscription TV, and maybe i should consider myself lucky.

 

[purbeast0]

I do have to say that the major downside to this the lack of attention that everything else gets. I was listening to ESPN talk in the background. Out of 90 minutes, about 80 minutes were devoted to Tebow. 5 mins to the other 3 playoff games and 5 mins to the LSU-Alabama game. That's it. Nothing else. So Brees and Eli go out and play really well but they get a couple sentences in there before moving back to Tebow again.

that is EXACTLY why people are "hating" on Tebow, and it's 100% the medias fault. you are hearing more about a mediocore quarterback than you are ones that are proven much better than him, with teams who have a much better record.

i have heard more about tebow than brees breaking dan marino's record. pretty sad. but again it's not tebow's fault at all, it is the media.

 

[Sephire]

At the stadium

 

[MetalMat]

Tebow sealed the deal yesterday, that was one awesome finish. I will probably kick myself later but I just can't see them beating the Patriots on the road.

 

[Muse]

Tebow sealed the deal yesterday, that was one awesome finish. I will probably kick myself later but I just can't see them beating the Patriots on the road.

Oh, I'm going to watch... and hope.

 

[Muse]

that is EXACTLY why people are "hating" on Tebow, and it's 100% the medias fault. you are hearing more about a mediocore quarterback than you are ones that are proven much better than him, with teams who have a much better record.

i have heard more about tebow than brees breaking dan marino's record. pretty sad. but again it's not tebow's fault at all, it is the media.

You're watching too much TV. And seriously, BTW, I get really bored with the emphasis on records.

 

[Muse]

I hate Tebow

You might as well hate the moon. Why bother?

 

[Sephire]

Tim Tebow and Race Discussion

Kordell Stewart is bitter.

 

[Muse]

Bottom line is Tebow beat a lot of terrible teams and a lot of .500 teams. He got smashed by the Lions and Patriots, the only two good teams he played. And then he lost to two bad teams in the Bills and Chiefs.

-snip-

IIRC, the Bills beat the Pats in their first matchup this season. And the Chiefs handed Green Bay their only loss. "Bad teams?"

 

[MetalMat]

-snip-

IIRC, the Bills beat the Pats in New England. And the Chiefs handed Green Bay their only loss. "Bad teams?"

Bills beat the Pats at Ralph Wilson Stadium

 

[Poulsonator]

-snip-

IIRC, the Bills beat the Pats in their first matchup this season. And the Chiefs handed Green Bay their only loss. "Bad teams?"

The sun shines on a dog's ass every now and then. Buffalo (6-10) and KC (7-9) were bad teams.

 

[Muse]

Steelers were favored by nine by Vegas before the game. And that was with a good chunk of players already not starting due to injury. Tebow defies some crazy odds... never bet against God.

I wouldn't bet against Tebow. The way he eluded the pass rush yesterday was phenomenal. And all the while he kept his eyes down field, just felt the pocket pressure and managed to escape, sometimes seemingly miraculously.

If he can make those long passes I don't see why he can't make the short ones. I didn't see his other games this season, but it seems to me he must be able to hit those inside of 15 yard passes, they are a piece of cake compared to the 30-50 yard bombs he was hitting yesterday.

I think he'll get more and more accurate and likely his mechanics will improve a lot over time. I hope he isn't injured. A QB (or anybody) running in the NFL is living dangerously.

 

[Muse]

The sun shines on a dog's ass every now and then. Buffalo (6-10) and KC (7-9) were bad teams.

No, they were not bad teams, they beat arguably two of the best teams (maybe THE best) in the league. No amount of sun on anyone's ass accounts for that.

 

[Poulsonator]

No, they were not bad teams, they beat arguably two of the best teams (maybe THE best) in the league. No amount of sun on anyone's ass accounts for that.

How is a 6-10 team not bad?

 

[Poulsonator]

Are the St. Louis Rams (2-14) good because they beat the Saints (13-3)??