Discussion Ryzen 9000X3D series review thread

[Rigg]

I quickly checked the comments of the HUB video to see if it was a response to a Frame Chasers video or something. JustBenching all up in the comments section being an Intel stan. 🤡🌎

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I quickly checked the comments of the HUB video to see if it was a response to a Frame Chasers video or something. JustBenching all up in the comments section being an Intel stan. 🤡🌎

Loserbenchmark and Fraud Chasers; how does anyone still willing expose themselves to that nonsense? Weird little cults...

14900k + 5090 owners be like -

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Still the number one seller at $474 after coupon. As I pointed out in another thread, inflation adjusted, it's been what flagship gaming performance has cost going back to at least the 2600K.

 

[igor_kavinski]

https://videocardz.com/newz/same-user-loses-another-ryzen-7-9800x3d-on-asrock-motherboard

What the heck has HAPPENED to ASROCK???

 

[DAPUNISHER]

https://videocardz.com/newz/same-user-loses-another-ryzen-7-9800x3d-on-asrock-motherboard

What the heck has HAPPENED to ASROCK???

Something went very wrong for them here. The number of ASRock boards with the problem is hugely disproportionate to any other vendor from what I've seen. PICNIC explains a good percentage for other board makers, but ASRock is way way past that. My 7800X3D B650e PG Riptide wifi is still going strong a year later, but I am not going to FAFO with a 9800X3D in this board.

 

[Abwx]

Back in 2017 Asrock had the best reliability for MBs, much better than the Asus, MSI
and other Gigabyte, seems that they were badly managed those last years.

 

[Ranulf]

Back in 2017 Asrock had the best reliability for MBs, much better than the Asus, MSI
and other Gigabyte, seems that they were badly managed those last years.

Same old story. It goes up and down with all these major brands and others over the years. Some years it was Asus, then Gigabyte for me. Then Asrock seemed solid while others were failing.

 

[LightningZ71]

They build a reputation for quality, then once they see buyers going for higher ASPs, they dump their quality and take profits for a few years while the reputation bleeds out. Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

[fastandfurious6]

yeah in this era of extreme turnover, lack of trust & accountability and where everything works like a Big Exit Scam,

5+ years can make a big difference in a company's decisions/products


time is moving faster than usual...............

 

[DAPUNISHER]

You can't make this 💩up. Raptor Lake at stock settings crashing during tournaments and pros complaining about playing on anything but a 9800X3D because the system is too slow.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1964535977185288631

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Throwing solar eclipse shade -

Maybe these tournaments need the Intel overclockers to come in and make them as fast as X3D chips, faster even, because I'm constantly told that's a thing you can do

GN from behind with a steel chair -

https://twitter.com/x/status/1964719073293672498

Crikey!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1964651987116630237

 

[mikeymikec]

EWC Dota 2 was in July this year apparently... surely Intel had a handle on the raptor lake stuff by that point?

 

[igor_kavinski]

Those machines must've been donated. Who buys that crap for anything serious???

 

[poke01]

Imagine buying Raptor lake in 2025. There are better options, what a waste of Sillicon, electricity and heat.


Pure garbage CPUs.

 

[igor_kavinski]

They did such a disservice to the name Raptor. It should have shredded through workloads but all it is really successful at doing is shredding Intel's reputation to smithereens!

 

[DZero]

Imagine buying Raptor lake in 2025. There are better options, what a waste of Sillicon, electricity and heat.


Pure garbage CPUs.

This is why those are being put on chinese franken boards on cheap prices... heck, people are skipping them for Alder Lake ones.

 

[Thunder 57]

They did such a disservice to the name Raptor. It should have shredded through workloads but all it is really successful at doing is shredding Intel's reputation to smithereens!

If it did maybe they would have called it "Shredripper" . I'll see myself out.

 

[igor_kavinski]

New TechSpot shader compilation benchmark!

https://www.techspot.com/review/3029-ryzen-9600x-vs-7600x-gaming/

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TLDR

Hey, shader compiler! Why so serioussss???

I don't have enough cache!

 

[StefanR5R]

So, 6c/12t Zen 5 @ 88 W PPT is doing the job a teeny bit faster than 6c/12t Zen 4 @ 140 W PPT (which it can't use effectively in full, I guess). This shows the Zen 4 -> Zen 5 improvements.

Now, 8c/16t Zen 5 @ 162 W PPT (I don't know if it uses all of this budget in this task) is doing the job 1.51x / 1.54x/ 1.40x as fast as 6c/12t Zen 5 @ 88 W PPT.

The bigger cache of 9800X3D is surely a contributing factor, but how much?

 

[Joe NYC]

Just checked my local Micro Center. On top of the store page, they have a store wide best seller list, which tends to have low priced gadgets that are on sale, including their cloth MicroCenter bag.

This time, they have 9800x3d on store-wide bestseller list, also the highest priced item on the list.

Just out of curiosity, I jumped on the processor page, and they have their CPU bestseller ranking. The most surprising to me is #3, 9950x3d.

These best sellers tended to be dominated by the low priced 6 core CPUs, but not any more. 4 out of top 6 are V-Cache models

 

[igor_kavinski]

Most surprising is people opting for 6 cores at $299 rather than 8 cores at $339 or even 8 cores at $239 for the 7700X (and AVX-512). I mean, they surely don't understand cores I guess. $279 might be a better price for it though I would personally prefer $249. At any rate, seems AMD is making good money from busted dies.

 

[Rigg]

Most surprising is people opting for 6 cores at $299 rather than 8 cores at $339 or even 8 cores at $239 for the 7700X (and AVX-512). I mean, they surely don't understand cores I guess. $279 might be a better price for it though I would personally prefer $249. At any rate, seems AMD is making good money from busted dies.

Look at the bundles. The 7600X3D bundle is $120 cheaper than the 7800X3D and $200 cheaper than the 9800X3D. Since all 3 are available with the same RAM/Mobo to bundle, you can directly compare the actual CPU discount when you add all 3 to your cart with 1 board and 1 RAM kit. The 7800X3D actually gets the worst discount of the 3 in a bundle.

Spoiler

It's a moving target though. I paid considerably less than that for the 3 7800X3D and the 2 7600X3D CPU's I bought in bundles when the getting was good.

 

[igor_kavinski]

OK, now THAT is a bundle to get!


Heavenly sweet!

 

[DaaQ]

https://videocardz.com/newz/same-user-loses-another-ryzen-7-9800x3d-on-asrock-motherboard

What the heck has HAPPENED to ASROCK???

The Dude in that OP admits to using BIOS 3.15 then on second dead CPU 3.25.

NOT 3.40 the fix for being adjust the SOC voltage.

 

[ondma]

Look at the bundles. The 7600X3D bundle is $120 cheaper than the 7800X3D and $200 cheaper than the 9800X3D. Since all 3 are available with the same RAM/Mobo to bundle, you can directly compare the actual CPU discount when you add all 3 to your cart with 1 board and 1 RAM kit. The 7800X3D actually gets the worst discount of the 3 in a bundle.

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It's a moving target though. I paid considerably less than that for the 3 7800X3D and the 2 7600X3D CPU's I bought in bundles when the getting was good.

Still, even with v-cache, I would not consider a hex core cpu for a gaming build now. BL4 already states an 8 core cpu for the min requirements, although I am playing it acceptably (barely) on an old 8700k. Still, too many games are being built on UE5 with horrible optimization. Seeing how the gpu requirements have skyrocketed recently with UE5 and ray tracing, I would definitely go with 8 cores for gaming, because you never know if the same thing will happen for cpu demands.