Also what do you guys run to test ryzen speeds temps and voltages? I am monitoring with ryzen master, but depending on load I get different results. I used p95 with large FFTs and 2 threads, boosted above 4.2 or so. Vcore about 1.5 though! with 16 threads, I got about 3.95, but vcore much lower about 1.325. Is over 1.4V dangerous for ryzen?
Also, I dont know why vcore is going that high, as I even set a nearly .09 negative offset for vcore. It doesnt seem to be boosting as high as it used too either. I am on the stock cooler, I am wondering if the memory OC is causing weird side effects, or if the negative vcore offset is being wonky in some way when boosting.
Also what do you guys run to test ryzen speeds temps and voltages?
I think the issue people have with your post is that your experience has not been seen in quantity so far, which reasonably means that either you have a dud mobo or cpu.
Yet, you keep ragging on AMD as if they sold you and the world a lemon.
Since unknown thousands have been sold, and we've not seen any significant horror stories such as yours, we can assume its an outlier.
Something is a dud, and you've somehow made a profit off of it ?
How does that work, did you sell the system or piece it out without telling the new buyer, instead of just RMA'ing it to resolve the issue one way or another?
Frustration is understandable, however selling off dodgy gear is not good for your karma.
Yes, all of us that were able to successfully integrate an AMD AM4 mobo and CPU, and get it running at the clocks that we wanted to, are "spiteful AMD fanboys", ganging up on you.Or perhaps because a bunch of spiteful AMD fanboys literally gang up to beat them down on the internet for mentioning an issue.
PS. Are you now doubling-down, and attempting to claim by analogy, that AMD somehow lied about some part of their AM4 platform or CPU technical specs? Does that complete your hit-piece on AMD?Just like GTX970 owners were stupid haters finding imaginary problems...until major media started to investigate and found Nvidia straight up lied about ROPs/TMUs/RAM.
Still never said I sold the system.
Am I likely to harm my new CPU, if I OC it to 4.0Ghz fixed, and 1.325V? VSoC is on "Auto", which put it at 1.200V. Temps are around 68-72C.
Yes, all of us that were able to successfully integrate an AMD AM4 mobo and CPU, and get it running at the clocks that we wanted to, are "spiteful AMD fanboys", ganging up on you.
I've at least tried to add some data points here and there, since I too just built a Ryzen R7 2700 rig, although we have different mobos and UEFIs.
Or maybe you should just accept that your experience is an outlier, and not representative of AMD's AM4 platform as a whole.
Wouldn't you laugh at me, if I bought a Z390 mobo (that had a bent pin), and tried to integrate it with a 9900K,. and it kept throttling down over load? Would you comisserate with me, and say "Intel sucks"? Or would you suggest that I replace the mobo?
Define "make a profit", then.
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I don't know, others have the Asrock board and don't seem to have the same issue. The 2700 does not have XFR2 like the 2700x does so it doesn't have as granular of a boost. Should still be seeing 4.1 GHz with 1-2 threads and ~3.4 GHz fully loaded though unless hitting a thermal or power limit.
prof·it
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a financial gain, especially the difference between the amount earned and the amount spent in buying, operating, or producing something.
Seriously, nobody here knows anything about basic financials, or simple definitions for words like profit?
I think the boost for the 2700 is called "Core Performance Boost"? When I was testing it, I set it to "Enabled", and I was boosting to 4.1Ghz on light loads, and 3.45Ghz on all-core loads.The 2700 doesn't support xfr2 or pbo as far as I know, but that doesn't mean it won't boost, those are more advanced boost techniques but the 2700 still has boost functionality and should not be stuck at 3.2 GHz.
Sigh... The implication is there, but assuming this is the only forum, the only place people would go to seek help, is a bit arrogant.
I never said AMD sucks, I said the 2700 does. It's not just the poor performance that puts me off for Zen. Bad MOBOS, bad BIOS, terrible lack of information/clarity, etc. The entire ecosystem is more immature than systems even 15-20 years ago. Maybe they'll straighten it out with Zen2, but it seems reviews and research wont be a reliable indicator.
There's no difference in the feature list at AMD for the 2700 and the 2700X. The only difference is the clocks. Both have XFR2 and PBO2.
What this processor lacks is XFR 2.0 in the form the 2700X has.
Here's a review where the Asrock Taichi U seems to perform just as well as an ASUS board with the 2700 when not overclocked:
It's likely that review was on an old UEFI version that might work better than the recent ones.
I think the boost for the 2700 is called "Core Performance Boost"? When I was testing it, I set it to "Enabled", and I was boosting to 4.1Ghz on light loads, and 3.45Ghz on all-core loads.
I will say this too, I used to have several ASRock AM4 boards (the AB350M Pro4). Great starter boards, but lacking in some areas, and as @DrMrLordX noted, their UEFI versions started really sucking. (Their UEFI for that board, with AGESA 1.0.0.6 was probably their best, and I think they even added LLC finally on that board.)
Now I have Gigabyte and Asus.
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Also I find it strange he spent $200 on a board but saved a few bucks on non x cpu and the memory (DDR-2400 instead of DDR-3200). I'd personally have gone the opposite.