Russia ready to normalize relations with the US

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UglyCasanova

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Im dont really know much about that but if the header of the email was fine but you changed the content of the email slightly who would know?


Not an expert either but don't think it works that way, from what I've read the key ensures that no part of the email was tampered with. In either case the Clinton campaign hasn't denied the authenticy of any of them, major news outlets are treating them as real, people have been fired over their contents. They're legit.
 

JSt0rm

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we will see when they try to lock her up and the lawyers get into it.
 

dank69

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In your opinion the Wikileaks emails/speech transcripts were originally acquired by Russia?

The Guccifer DNC leaks may have been (or maybe not) but as far as I know that was the only possible Russian connection.

The leaks gave the voting public insight into who we were voting for. Is that a bad thing? Would we be better off not knowing what was in Hillarys speeches? Better of not knowing about the Suoer PAC collusion? Media collusion? About the DNC and Hillary working together to prevent Sanders from being nominated? That she was given the debate questions beforehand? I think these are all relevant things for a voter to know, if it was the Russians I guess we should thank them for introducing a bit of transparency into the democratic ticket no?
There is no maybe. Something like 20 professional security firms have stated that there is conclusive evidence that the hacks were done by Russian government.

Also, the emails didn't show all of that. Most of it is exaggeration.
 

nickqt

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If Trump is able to pull the lever and end Empire, a 4 year stint might not be too bad, to be honest. I'm more worried about collateral policies in re: healthcare and taxes.
 

agent00f

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In your opinion the Wikileaks emails/speech transcripts were originally acquired by Russia?

The Guccifer DNC leaks may have been (or maybe not) but as far as I know that was the only possible Russian connection.

The leaks gave the voting public insight into who we were voting for. Is that a bad thing? Would we be better off not knowing what was in Hillarys speeches? Better of not knowing about the Suoer PAC collusion? Media collusion? About the DNC and Hillary working together to prevent Sanders from being nominated? That she was given the debate questions beforehand? I think these are all relevant things for a voter to know, if it was the Russians I guess we should thank them for introducing a bit of transparency into the democratic ticket no?

There was that phishing password reset email sent to podesta with a link through a redirect account operated by a russian hacker group. Podesta was told by IT to reset his password through google, but the link was clicked twice around that time which lead some to believe that's how his account info captured. The same group very likely hacked Powell's email.

It's pretty obvious the emails were provided to wikileaks for timed release for maximal disruption to the clinton campaign. The usual dumbshits where told the emails were explosive and of course they lived up to their namesake and perpetuated the agitprop.

And now trump won, Putin immediate moves to improve relations.

It's shades of the Iran hostage crisis where Iran releases the hostages minutes after reagan took office, and Reagan goes on to pay them back during his presidency including some quite illegal transactions. In that situation people have come forward after the fact, incl former president of iran, that a quid pro quo deal was negotiated beforehand.
 

sportage

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WTF R people thinking????
Russia expects to invade and expand and now believe they can do so without any repercussions what so ever by this president elect.
And THAT is exactly how it WILL work.
 

UglyCasanova

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There is no maybe. Something like 20 professional security firms have stated that there is conclusive evidence that the hacks were done by Russian government.

Also, the emails didn't show all of that. Most of it is exaggeration.


Incorrect. What you are referring to is in regards to the DNC leaks. No one other than speculating media have said Russia was behind the Wikileaks releases.
 

Jhhnn

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Incorrect. What you are referring to is in regards to the DNC leaks. No one other than speculating media have said Russia was behind the Wikileaks releases.

Please. It is beyond likely that both the DNC & Podesta email hacks are the work of state sponsored Russian hackers.

Donald asked for more, and got it.
 

UglyCasanova

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Please. It is beyond likely that both the DNC & Podesta email hacks are the work of state sponsored Russian hackers.

Donald asked for more, and got it.


There's nothing to back that up with. Assange said that Russia was not the source of their leaks, there is no evidence to suggest Russia was the source of their leaks, no fed agency nor cyber security experts have said Russia was the source of their leaks. Nothing.
 

norseamd

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There's nothing to back that up with. Assange said that Russia was not the source of their leaks, there is no evidence to suggest Russia was the source of their leaks, no fed agency nor cyber security experts have said Russia was the source of their leaks. Nothing.

There is, but you know you will never accept it.
 

NostaSeronx

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Russia wanted Trump to win primarily because he was the easiest person for them to bend over and vigorously tickle his colon. As they thrust their hand into him and make him speak and control every action he does. Indeed, no puppet strings as he is simply a walking, breathing hand-held puppet.

Direct quotes;
“Trump has sought and received funding from Russian investors for his business ventures, especially after most American banks stopped lending to him following his multiple bankruptcies.”
"Trump’s de facto campaign manager, Paul Manafort, was a longtime consultant to Viktor Yanukovich, the Russian-backed president of Ukraine who was overthrown in 2014. Manafort also has done multimillion-dollar business deals with Russian oligarchs. Trump’s foreign policy advisor Carter Page has his own business ties to the state-controlled Russian oil giant Gazprom. … Another Trump foreign policy advisor, retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, flew to Moscow last year to attend a gala banquet celebrating Russia Today, the Kremlin’s propaganda channel, and was seated at the head table near Putin."
“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia,”

Feed me the information Lord Putin, you have the best information, believe me. <--- Basically after inauguration...
 
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poofyhairguy

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I think most of America doesn't give a shit about who controls Syria. We might get sad for a minute when a picture of a poor kid that gets caught in the middle is shared, but that isn't enough to really change the world (or world hunger would have been cured in the 90s when starving black children were in commercials begging for pennies a day).

I think a lot of America is ready for isolationist thinking, and those who aren't (Obama's wing of the Democrats) haven't had the backbone to really do what was needed to fix the situation.

America isn't a lone world power, time to embrace that and let China and Russia have larger spheres of influence the same way a sales manager delegated the worst leads to the newest employee.

We are a century away at best from a time where every human life truly has the same value like many people want today.
 

JSt0rm

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I am quite sure Obama will pardon her before he leaves office. There is no reason to pursue it any further. It is a distraction at this point.


If she isnt charged with anything how can he pardon her?

Trump supporters are still chanting lock her up.
 

JSt0rm

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He would be doing it to prevent a partisan witch hunt. Trump is a vindictive prick. It isn't out of the question that he would throw Hillary to the wolves. A pardon would prevent that from occurring.

Pardons only work against convicted people. I think. I don't think you can pardon someone from charges they haven't received yet.
 

OrByte

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Russia is admitting it contacted Trump's camp during the election.

Way to nominate a Russian puppet, dumb voters I swear.
 
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BudAshes

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http://www.reuters.com/article/usa-election-russia-putin-idUSR4N1D800D?c?


This should be approached cautiously, but I'm not sure how it could be perceived as a bad thing. Putin is by far a larger crook than Hillary, but thus is the world we live in. He just extended the reset button that Hillary initially put out. For all the fear mongering going on about Trump bringing us closer to war this is a sign the opposite might be true.

The bulk of the US doesn't want hostile relations with Russia. The world is better off as a result.

Yeah he is ready to reset as long as they keep everything they have taken. And then they will take more, and ask for a reset again. They think we are fools, and they might be right.
 

shady28

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Funny, I thought the election was over.

So lets begin...


"The source of these emails and leaks has nothing to do with Russia at all. I discovered what the source was when I attended the Sam Adam's whistleblower award in Washington. The source of these emails comes from within official circles in Washington DC. You should look to Washington not to Moscow."
-Craig Murray, former UK Ambassador to Uzbekistan

It doesn't take a big foreign gov't to crack emails.

A 13 year old teenager cracked the CIA director's email. Then hacked the DNI James Clappers email.

Teen Who Hacked CIA Email Is Back to Prank US Spy Chief

For foreign connections and influence, how's this?

Shall we continue?


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JSt0rm

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they want damages as well. Our electorate is too stupid. The gop should of had something in place to stop some crazy from getting the nomination.