Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[kage69]

 

[RnR_au]

Russian state media is devoting heavy coverage to Putin’s Alaska meeting with Trump. When Zelensky called it a “personal victory” for Putin, RIA Novosti concurred, declaring: “Zelensky acknowledges Putin’s victory.”

Looks like Putin will be there given the internal media coverage.

 

[DZero]

Wait until China reacts... this is like the girlfriend cheating with other XD

This is gonna end into a very interesting way

 

[kage69]

If this is accurate, Ukrainian army needs some serious reforms starting at the very top.
Also kind of explains, despite the counter-attacks in 2022 why since then the Ukrainians have had difficulty making solid gains against Russia.
Zelensky needs to clean house, but will he?

Ukraine’s Once Nimble Army Is Mired in Soviet Decision-Making

Probably time for Syrskiy to go. I had hopes for him, he delivered a few times, but ultimately this kind of regression cannot stand, or they won't be able to outlast Putin.

 

[kage69]

Wait until China reacts... this is like the girlfriend cheating with other XD

This is gonna end into a very interesting way

Feel free to expand on that. What is it exactly you think Russia's most important benefactor is threatened by there? What do you see them doing because of it? Be specific, please.


Putin is playing Trump like fiddle. Xi understands this better than most as he's fond of doing it too. China is simply too essential and dangerous to a hobbled Russia to be replaced, by anyone. Certainly not a senile pedo buffoon in a diaper. If anyone should be upset and reacting negativly about what Trump is doing in Alaska, it's Americans. Trump is disgracing us to fête his blackmailer. Ukraine and the EU are in the enviable position of being able to ignore whatever Putin gets him to say. Nothing about Ukraine, without Ukraine, as they say.

Trump doesn't need peace, he needs a sideshow - and this Putin bullshit works fine. Trump, America's most successful crook, doesn't give a damn about treaties, deals or agreements. See Iran, or shit his entire 'business' career. Add that to Putin who doesn't honor anything when it comes to Ukraine, he never has.

End? This won't be ending any time soon, personally I think Dementia Don's failures and betrayals have ensured this conflict will outlast him.

 

[DZero]

Feel free to expand on that. What is it exactly you think Russia's most important benefactor is threatened by there? What do you see them doing because of it? Be specific, please.


Putin is playing Trump like fiddle. Xi understands this better than most as he's fond of doing it too. China is simply too essential and dangerous to a hobbled Russia to be replaced, by anyone. Certainly not a senile pedo buffoon in a diaper. If anyone should be upset and reacting negativly about what Trump is doing in Alaska, it's Americans. Trump is disgracing us to fête his blackmailer. Ukraine and the EU are in the enviable position of being able to ignore whatever Putin gets him to say. Nothing about Ukraine, without Ukraine, as they say.

Trump doesn't need peace, he needs a sideshow - and this Putin bullshit works fine. Trump, America's most successful crook, doesn't give a damn about treaties, deals or agreements. See Iran, or shit his entire 'business' career. Add that to Putin who doesn't honor anything when it comes to Ukraine, he never has.

End? This won't be ending any time soon, personally I think Dementia Don's failures and betrayals have ensured this conflict will outlast him.

Ok, I can, the issue is this info
Sadly for Russia, even with the support of China, knows that it comes for a price (practically is like making a pact with the Devil), but seems that said price is too much. And trying to make that show has a limit, even for the most supportive one. I am thinking what might be the consequences at long term of this act. Time will tell about it.

Meanwhile Trump is totally ruining US' reputation in the mid and long term, specially if his cultists, I mean followers gets more power.

 

[Indus]

Meanwhile Trump is totally ruining US' reputation in the mid and long term, specially if his cultists, I mean followers gets more power.

Reputation?

It's way more than that. Alliances and trust are breaking.

 

[kage69]

Ok, I can, the issue is this info
Sadly for Russia, even with the support of China, knows that it comes for a price (practically is like making a pact with the Devil), but seems that said price is too much. And trying to make that show has a limit, even for the most supportive one. I am thinking what might be the consequences at long term of this act. Time will tell about it.

Meanwhile Trump is totally ruining US' reputation in the mid and long term, specially if his cultists, I mean followers gets more power.

Can you try again? That article is from June and covers a worry that's been mentioned here several times, been a Russian concern since 2023.

You get that the relationship with China isn't one Russia can just dump, like a girlfriend, right? So I'll ask again; what is it exactly you think Russia's most important benefactor is threatened by in Alaska? I'm being specific, please feel free to do the same.

 

[kage69]

Happy to see Alaskans react accordingly here...

“Ukraine and Alaska - Russia Never Again!”

Damn straight. I like seeing the kidnapped Ukrainian children mentioned at every event like this too.

And I wonder about Lisa Murkowski right now. What does it feel like for the treasonous asshole who reneged on her deals to now offer her state's resources to a genocidal autocrat and war criminal?

 

[kage69]

 

[Roger Wilco]

GOP voters growing increasingly anti-Russia.

 

[Racan]

US and Russia suggest ‘West Bank-style occupation of Ukraine’

Russia would have both economic and military control of the occupied parts of Ukraine under the proposal

www.independent.co.uk

But of course they do

The U.S. and Russia are set to suggest a “West Bank-style” occupation of Ukraine as a way of ending the war, according to The London Times.

Under the proposed plans, Russia would have both economic and military control of the occupied parts of Ukraine, utilizing its own governing body, mimicking Israel’s control of Palestinian territory taken from Jordan during the 1967 conflict.

The suggestion was put forward during discussions between President Donald Trump’s envoy Steve Witkoff and his Russian counterparts, a source with insight into the U.S. National Security Council told the paper.

Witkoff, who also serves as the White House’s Middle East envoy, reportedly backs the suggestion, which the U.S. believes will solve the issue of the Ukrainian constitution prohibiting giving up territory without organizing a referendum. While Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has rejected any notion of ceding territory, the new occupation proposal may lead to a truce following Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, which began in February 2022.

According to the proposal, Ukraine’s borders would remain officially unchanged, similar to the borders of the West Bank, even as Israel controls the territory.

“It’ll just be like Israel occupies the West Bank,” the source told The Times.

 

[biostud]

Anyone have trucks with drones driving around in Alaska?

 

[Brovane]

US and Russia suggest ‘West Bank-style occupation of Ukraine’

Russia would have both economic and military control of the occupied parts of Ukraine under the proposal

www.independent.co.uk

But of course they do

At this point the way I see it, our opinion really doesn't matter. What matters is if Ukraine is willing to accept it. If Ukraine accepts it and it ends the war with security guarantees that Ukraine is happy with it. Then I am ok with it, not happy, but ok with it.

 

[Racan]

At this point the way I see it, our opinion really doesn't matter. What matters is if Ukraine is willing to accept it. If Ukraine accepts it and it ends the war with security guarantees that Ukraine is happy with it. Then I am ok with it, not happy, but ok with it.

No Ukrainian in his right mind would look at what Israel is doing in the West Bank and say he’s okay with that happening to them, and call it "peace".

 

[Perknose]

Think how many died during the 30s under Stalin. Then know that, one way or another -- bad peace or no peace -- Putin will never stop coveting Ukraine. So he'll send as many of his empire's untermenchen to die as it takes, for as long as it takes, because he can.

Whereas Trump comes in thinking everyone has a price. Putin will gladly pay, but only in serf conscript blood.

Trump desperately wants the Nobel Peace Prize*. That's Putin's leverage for a deal on his terms.

I can't believe I live in this world in these times. So unreal. It's like watching in slow motion as one car slowly slides into another, only a global scale.

And we're all in this movie together, whether we like it or not.

Whare's my SAG card, Donny?









* The festering corpse of Henry Kissinger just gave us a bony thumbs up!

 

[Brovane]

No Ukrainian in his right mind would look at what Israel is doing in the West Bank and say he’s okay with that happening to them, and call it "peace".

The Palestinians have no country to go to. Ukraine is a huge country with a lot of territory not under Russian control. Those people who don't want to live under Russian rule can reasonably just leave those areas and go to Ukraine. Do you see the difference?

You are also missing the important piece. Do you live in Ukraine? Are you under constant air attacks every night? If not, who are we to judge what Ukraine decides is acceptable to make peace?

 

[cytg111]

The rumor about Trump offering Putin AMERICAN resources in part of the deal.

Think about that. Would Putin hit pause on Ukraine to begin knitting the first order axis together? Pulling the US and USSR together as allies? ... Not saying.. not not saying either.

 

[Artorias]

Lets see what the Big Z says over the weekend after the call.

 

[gdansk]

I love this man


“If you are considering some kind of ‘land swap’ for peace, Florida should be on the table,” Zelenskyy said. “With Florida, you have cards.”

Not quite the casino themed fuck off I was hoping for, but I'll take it. That boy is hard as a coffin nail. I feel like even some Russians probably had to smile over that one.

ugh, not real. Meh, he's a comedian, still think he's great and he probably should start throwing nonsense back at Trump.

You know I would hardly be surprised if der größter Verhandlungsführer aller Zeiten tries to give Florida to Putin.

 

[RnR_au]

No peace. No working lunch. Putin is already back on his plane.

 

[Brovane]

No peace. No working lunch. Putin is already back on his plane.

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Despite all the rhetoric, Putin thought that Trump was going to TACO and he didn't which is a good thing. Now we just need to see if Trump follows through on those additional sanctions. There is still plenty of room for Trump to TACO.

 

[K1052]

Trump got dick lol.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Helsinki II?

Putin goes on to "flatter" Trump at the Press Conference, Says He Wouldn’t Have Invaded Ukraine on Trump’s Watch...Lol! that's all Trump wanted to hear. Meeting over! This is really the major thing Trump wanted from Putin: for him to say it wouldn't happened if Trump had been President. But it begs the question, why is it continuing under Trump? Why won't Putin end it on Trumps watch? Trump is so easy to manipulate with flattery. Putin loses nothing by saying that and he walks away shaking his head at how simple and easy it is to please Trump. Trump got one concession out of Putin ... he got Putin to lie for him about starting the war. If the war isn't over yet, then Putin's lying.

Putin’s plans for invading Ukraine go way back to when he was driving a taxi in St Petersburg lamenting the lost Soviet Empire.

 

[RnR_au]

A couple of points from my feed;

• Pretty wild to think that Trump did this whole red-carpet summit for Putin, and he had jack shit pre-agreed. Absolutely nothing to present to the public as a show of his diplomatic prowess and American might.
• Trump: Now it is really up to Zelensky to get it done. (TACO!)
• Trump rates his meeting with Putin today a “10”. (but... TACO!)
• Russian FM Lavrov showed up in Alaska wearing a shirt that said: "CCCP." (#YOLO)