Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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nakedfrog

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Do you drink before you post? Serious question.

Russian/Chinese based AD was just shown, again, to be basically useless against Western weapons and tactics. Maybe you noticed the recent hubbub in Iran? Despite that, you think China is going to preemptively attack the US and India, while invading Russia?

Aren't you still waiting for Israel to somehow sabotage North Korea?

Why are you so determined to post stupid shit in here?

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I have been specifically wondering if he's some kind of awful bot, I realize maybe part of it is being ESL, but a lot of the things he posts are fairly nonsensical. IDK.
 

kage69

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I have been specifically wondering if he's some kind of awful bot, I realize maybe part of it is being ESL, but a lot of the things he posts are fairly nonsensical. IDK.

A suspicion of mine from earlier as well. Doesn't even try to defend his horribly bad takes, just goes right back to spewing. I'm leaning bot.
 

kage69

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Russia isn't done fuming over the Azeri desire to integrate with the West, rather than be subservient to the Russian gas station. Circumvent Russia for energy needs? Cue the rageshitting in Moscow.

To signal this displeasure to Aliyev, Putin ordered a hit on the Trans-Balkan gas pumping station in Orlivka outside of Odessa, where US and Azeri gas is brought into the country.


The more Putin seeks to disrupt and covet Europe's energy sources, the more he corroborates exactly why Europe and Ukraine need to defeat him.
 

DZero

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The US betrayal of Ukraine, Europe, NATO is looking more complete by the day.

US May Redirect Weapons Made for Ukraine to Its Own Stockpile

Even the ones Europe bought? That isn't screw with the NATO members? Oh boy, Trump seems that want a circus but is fully burning to the ground the scene.

Meanwhile..


Good job Ukraine! even without Trump will give fight to the end
 

DZero

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Oh? An hour ago you said "Aaand.. Rusia is about to win."

You should probably pick a narrative and try to stick with it.
I am totally anti Putin (and Russia), but Trump's way to screw the situation is getting to my nerves, heck, he is making India being doubtful instead of fully pick a side, and the only opponent he cares, who is China, is unexpectly giving the weapons to impose their conditions to everyone, making a check mate to Trump and delivering a BIG moral defeat to the US people.

It does not help that Trump has bootlickers instead of smart people that can avoid this scenario. In any other administration, we wouldn't see that level of chaos compared to this one.
 
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Jaskalas

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Latest in Trump's service to Putin.
They both want Ukraine to abandon additional land without a fight.
In exchange, Russia will "ceasefire"... but also be given full economic relief and support for their continued mass military build up.

So basically, give Russia MORE land for free. They tire of fighting for it. Also, give them a hand so they will be stronger than ever when they resume.
Europe needs to tell Trump to fuck off. Also, they might want to do something to win Turkey over.

Putin Tells U.S. He’ll Halt War in Exchange for Eastern Ukraine
 
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Brovane

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Latest in Trump's service to Putin.
They both want Ukraine to abandon additional land without a fight.
In exchange, Russia will "ceasefire"... but also be given full economic relief and support for their continued mass military build up.

So basically, give Russia MORE land for free. They tire of fighting for it. Also, give them a hand so they will be stronger than ever when they resume.
Europe needs to tell Trump to fuck off. Also, they might want to do something to win Turkey over.

Putin Tells U.S. He’ll Halt War in Exchange for Eastern Ukraine

This is a change in position by the Russians. Previously they wanted all four entire Oblasts that they partially occupy and have Ukraine demilitarized.

Now they want the Luhansk and Donetsk regions and Ukraine to withdraw out of those Oblasts. Big question remains what would happen to the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions they partially occupy? What security guarantees would Ukraine get.

The decision to accept this has to be Ukraine's because they have been paying in blood for Putin's Special Operation.
 

Artorias

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This is a change in position by the Russians. Previously they wanted all four entire Oblasts that they partially occupy and have Ukraine demilitarized.

Now they want the Luhansk and Donetsk regions and Ukraine to withdraw out of those Oblasts. Big question remains what would happen to the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions they partially occupy? What security guarantees would Ukraine get.

The decision to accept this has to be Ukraine's because they have been paying in blood for Putin's Special Operation.
The only security garuntee is see somewhat working is allowing western corps to exploit Ukrainian resources in the east. An attack in the future would effectively be an attack on the west.

I know it sounds flimsy, and shitty. But there is just no way Ukraine joins NATO with the current power structure in Russia.
 

DZero

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This might now be directly related, but...

This is extremely suspicious. Heck, Trump helping Putin to dismantle Ukraine and soon the NATO (just check what Trump is doing with the weapons that are supposed to be sold)
, meanwhile Belarus is on the verge to be annexed by Russia since Lukashenko is about to quit the leadership with no succesors, and that screws Poland and Lithuania in the process.

Latest in Trump's service to Putin.
They both want Ukraine to abandon additional land without a fight.
In exchange, Russia will "ceasefire"... but also be given full economic relief and support for their continued mass military build up.

So basically, give Russia MORE land for free. They tire of fighting for it. Also, give them a hand so they will be stronger than ever when they resume.
Europe needs to tell Trump to fuck off. Also, they might want to do something to win Turkey over.

Putin Tells U.S. He’ll Halt War in Exchange for Eastern Ukraine
Europe needs to stop buying any weapons for USA and starts to arm themselves with nukes, all pointing to Russia to show them that they are no joke.
 

kage69

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This might now be directly related, but...

This is extremely suspicious. Heck, Trump helping Putin to dismantle Ukraine and soon the NATO (just check what Trump is doing with the weapons that are supposed to be sold)
, meanwhile Belarus is on the verge to be annexed by Russia since Lukashenko is about to quit the leadership with no succesors, and that screws Poland and Lithuania in the process.


Europe needs to stop buying any weapons for USA and starts to arm themselves with nukes, all pointing to Russia to show them that they are no joke.

Good post! That wasn't so hard was it? Topical, deductive, with linked citation from a reputable source no less. I appreciate you adding this to the thread. "That's what I'm talking about."

Yep, Europeans have already announced a pivot away from American weapons and defense tech. Canada too. Thanks to Putin's invasions, his views on treaty compliance, and especially the recent announcement that they aren't bound by anything for intermediate ranges, yeah, we're pretty much in a 21st century arms race now. Poland has already been working on this with France, I expect Germany and their Scandi cousins will probably do the same. There's a rumor the Sa'udi just up and bought one from Pakistan awhile back, maybe the Baltics should think about that.
 
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kage69

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Give Russia Alaska? So we're just giving the NPRA away now? All the other fields too? For, reasons? What does Conoco Phillips think of that?

I know the guy has an IQ roughly equivalent with his waist size, and then there's the dementia and his favorite crushed pills, but idk somehow I doubt we're losing a state to return a transaction.