Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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brycejones

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pcgeek11 said:
Just because some internet person calls someone or a group of people Nazis doesn't actually make them Nazis...

Like in this echo chamber. If you aren't screaming for Trumps head on a platter you must be a Nazi.
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1. Hard times creates hard men.
2. Hard men creates good times.
3. Good times creates soft men.
4. Soft men creates hard times.

Which step do you think you are?
 
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Brovane

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Jaskalas said:
You are skipping the order of events for WW3.
Ukraine would die first. Then Russia regroups and pushes forward.

At the same time, US strangles Europe with energy and the wave of refugees from Ukraine gives rise to hostile pro-Putin movements throughout Europe. By the time Russia strikes NATO, it will already be a fragment of its current state. A weaker, divided NATO would fail to defend the Baltics... only adding further stress and disarray as Russia move through friendly Slovakia and into the heart of Europe.

By the time they choose to attack Poland, the war is already lost.
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What is Russia going to regroup with? Their population is gutted, bad demographics before the invasion are already worse. The military equipment they currently posses has been decimated by the war. It would take Russian army at least a decade+ to even regroup and by then the demographics would become already worse. The only thing that Russia has left going for it is it's nuclear arsenal and even then they will find it difficult to maintain in a operational state. Russia is a failed state that in it a last grasp to survive has invaded one of it's neighbors and has made the situation even worse for them.
 
nickqt

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brycejones said:
1. Hard times creates hard men.
2. Hard men creates good times.
3. Good times creates soft men.
4. Soft men creates hard times.

Which step do you think you are?
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Those are fascist ideology talking points, so he of course think's he's a super ultra hard man who is going to do great things to make America great again. It's not even a question.
 
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The great thing about dumbfucks who believe in magical things like The Fourth Turning is that they telegraph that their opinions are irrelevant to any rational discussion of objective observable reality.

And when you point that out, all they can do is cackle wildly and slink off to pretend to be philosophers elsewhere.

Don't take my word for it, just look at the local dumbfuck cackling wildly before scurrying off to pretend to have adult thoughts amongst other dumbfucks.
 
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Perknose

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pcgeek11 said:
Like in this echo chamber. If you aren't screaming for Trumps head on a platter you must be a Nazi.
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If you aren't "screaming for Trump's head on a platter" you might as well be a Nazi, because an angry toddler sits behind the Resolute Desk, and all is not going well for our Republic, you know?

And this Clown Car Collection of an administration has only just begun. J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio are towering assholes trying to lecture our staunchest allies. I really don't want to think about the damage Patel and Gabbard will wreak. When RFK can be seen as one of the least harmful picks, you know we're in trouble.

Me? I don't particularly want any part of Trump on a platter, thank you very much.

But I would like to see him on a plane heading to exile in Saudi Arabia.
 
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Brainonska511

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Muse said:
Zelensky says Ukraine will not agree to any points negotiated by USA and Russia concerning Russia's war on Ukraine that Ukraine was not a party to developing.
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Why should they? They are a sovereign country. We can't just negotiate like they don't exist and have agency.
 
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K1052

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Brainonska511 said:
Why should they? They are a sovereign country. We can't just negotiate like they don't exist and have agency.
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European assent to removing sanctions on Russia and dealing with the seized assets are also going to be things Putin wants to get done and that's not likely to happen if Zelensky refuses a lopsided deal.
 
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Trump and Putin is telling Zelenskyy "We don't mind 'cuz you don't matter". Amazing how Trump's supporters can sit back on this, shut their yappers and act like Ukraine as a sovereign democratically led nation have no say in their destiny. If this is what it takes to be a Trump loyalist, where Russia, among one of our most dangerous adversaries can be seen as an ally of America simply because Trump has a stiffie for him, I wonder what else can be shoved down their throats because their guy can seemingly do no wrong simply because he's "their guy"?

If they think "their guy" isn't going to screw them over first chance he gets then they're way beyond redemption because Trump and his cabal of oligarchs are already fucking them over right now right in their faces and they're not doing a single damn thing to stop him from doing that to them because in their minds Trump is "screwing it to the libs" while conveniently ignoring the fact that when it all comes down to the members from their working class of whom represent the vast majority of Trump's voters, they're in the same boat as the libs as far as Trump and his aristocrat class henchmen are concerned.

Why these conservative working class stiffs refuse to face this fact of life in America is a mystery I'll never get a handle on. I guess fucking over the libs is way more important than facing the realization that they're fucking themselves twice over while they're at it.

Some people's children I tell ya's. It's so plain to see yet so impossible to accept because Trump "tells it like it is". Really? I mean REALLY? That fucking insecure daddy's spoiled brat trust fund baby is a narcissistic serial liar. Why would anyone trust that kind of damaged goods? WTF?
 
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cytg111

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So when is Trump dropping the sanctions on Russia?

Zelensky is gonna reject whatever crooked shit that Putin manipulates Trump into and as a slap on the wrist Trump will ease some sanctions on Russia.
 
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pcgeek11 said:
Just because some internet person calls someone or a group of people Nazis doesn't actually make them Nazis...

Like in this echo chamber. If you aren't screaming for Trumps head on a platter you must be a Nazi.
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But it's not just some people on the internet. Their parliament is considering banning them.
"After the terrible rule of the National Socialists [Nazis], it is important to prevent a party which is in large parts right-wing extremist and ethno-nationalist from becoming powerful in Germany again," said Wanderwitz.
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cytg111

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nickqt said:
NATO is about to get pinched by Russia from the east and Russia's ally Muskland from the west. Might as well get ahead of it.
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Exactly. 100% get a head of it before Team Trump have had enough time to realign with The Vlad, take the initiative instead of waiting for it to happen. Entirety of Europe should go into war production.
 
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