Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[Grabo]

Ukrainian Leopard tank operators describe their experiences using the tanks in Robotyne I thought was relatively down to earth and upbeat

 

[UNCjigga]

So you think we should make partners with another Actively Hostile Power Iran?

LOL, no one expects “Axis of Evil” Iran and “Great Satan” US to be besties—but having an open dialog and path to some form of normalized relations could prove helpful down the road.

 

[fskimospy]

So you think we should make partners with another Actively Hostile Power Iran?

Yes - I think they would be helpful in containing the Saudis, who are clearly no longer our allies, may have compromised the last president/his family, and recently assassinated a US citizen on US soil.

Oh yeah, and yesterday was 9/11 - another gift to us from our 'friends' the Saudis.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Remember how Saddam Hussein kept being coy about whether or not he had WMDs even though he knew it would mean the US would curbstomp his government? All he had to do was let western inspectors in and he'd be off the hook. But the illusion of WMDs (and the appearance of strength) was his bulwark against aggression from dissidents within Iraq and a functional Iranian military who would have loved nothing more than pounding Iraq into dust. He had trapped himself between all the rocks and all the hard places.

Authoritarian regimes have an almost pathological need to look strong because they see nothing but enemies, enemies within and enemies without, who will tear them to shreds the moment they display weakness, and that often means making bombastic, sometimes self destructive decisions .

Once again, projection aint just a type of outdated TV.

 

[A///]

Yes - I think they would be helpful in containing the Saudis, who are clearly no longer our allies, may have compromised the last president/his family, and recently assassinated a US citizen on US soil.

When have the Saudis ever been friends of the west? They're much an ally like Pakistan is meanwhile going behind our backs and causing shit.

 

[pcgeek11]

Yes - I think they would be helpful in containing the Saudis, who are clearly no longer our allies, may have compromised the last president/his family, and recently assassinated a US citizen on US soil.

Oh yeah, and yesterday was 9/11 - another gift to us from our 'friends' the Saudis.

I don't think they would help contain the Saudis.
I'm no friend of the Saudis either. Another terrorist State.

 

[fskimospy]

I don't think they would help contain the Saudis.
I'm no friend of the Saudis either. Another terrorist State.

The Saudis are their enemy so why wouldn't they?

It's in the US' best interests to weaken Saudi Arabia and/or depose their current leadership, two goals I'm sure Iran shares.

 

[brycejones]

So you think we should make partners with another Actively Hostile Power Iran?

How is this making them partners?

 

[A///]

I don't think they would help contain the Saudis.
I'm no friend of the Saudis either. Another terrorist State.

One time I agree with you. Add Pakistan to that list. Allies in name only. There's enough corruption there and silently aiding terrorist elements that make them a non-true ally.

 

[fskimospy]

How is this making them partners?

Iran is not a good place and their leaders are bad people - I'm just saying it's not at all clear to me that they are worse people than the Saudis (I think considerably better) but more importantly I think these days Iran's interests are better aligned with ours than the Saudis are.

Also in my lifetime Saudis have killed a lot more Americans than Iranians have.

 

[JTsyo]

Seems fitting

Poland might not even evoke Article 5 and just taking out all their historical frustrations out by themselves.

 

[Perknose]

Iran is not a good place and their leaders are bad people - I'm just saying it's not at all clear to me that they are worse people than the Saudis (I think considerably better) but more importantly I think these days Iran's interests are better aligned with ours than the Saudis are.

Also in my lifetime Saudis have killed a lot more Americans than Iranians have.

Realpolitik. It's not for the faint of heart.

 

[cytg111]

It's been long enough. Roll over this shit show formerly known as Russia and get down to business.

 

[Pens1566]

Iran is not a good place and their leaders are bad people - I'm just saying it's not at all clear to me that they are worse people than the Saudis (I think considerably better) but more importantly I think these days Iran's interests are better aligned with ours than the Saudis are.

Also in my lifetime Saudis have killed a lot more Americans than Iranians have.

Another key difference is that at one point they were a more modern/western aligned nation. Can't say the same for the kingdom. Which is what kinda sorta got us 9/11. If you somehow remove or replace the leadership of both those nations, it's much more likely that Iran becomes friendly than KSA.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Kim n' Putty gonna make the world cry.

 

[brycejones]

Another key difference is that at one point they were a more modern/western aligned nation. Can't say the same for the kingdom. Which is what kinda sorta got us 9/11. If you somehow remove or replace the leadership of both those nations, it's much more likely that Iran becomes friendly than KSA.

You can make a very sound argument that our interference is directly responsible for Iran being the way it is today. We supported a brutal regime that led to a popular uprising that ended in another brutal dictatorship but this time with a religious bent.

 

[Pens1566]

You can make a very sound argument that our interference is directly responsible for Iran being the way it is today. We supported a brutal regime that led to a popular uprising that ended in another brutal dictatorship but this time with a religious bent.

Oh, I know. I left that part out on purpose

 

[A///]

Realpolitik. It's not for the faint of heart.

The catch here being we could be allies with Iran if we wanted to, but we have to deal with America #2 being a pain in our arses and conducting sabotage missions against both Iran and us. The US has a lot of shitty allies is what I'm getting at here.

Of the middle east Jordan seems like the best Arab ally. When the oil runs out in Saudi or when electric vehicles take over enmasse what will happen to the house of Saud? Their spending of renewable infrastructure isn't going to save their arses.

 

[Zor Prime]

Kim in Russia.

Russia about to get extra shells, small arms and maybe missiles.

That might not even be the worst aspect of a deal made. NK might get some technology, I doubt South Korea will be impressed.

 

[A///]

Kim in Russia.

Russia about to get extra shells, small arms and maybe missiles.

That might not even be the worst aspect of a deal made. NK might get some technology, I doubt South Korea will be impressed.

This is the equivalent of Russia buying fart in a can from a gag store.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

If Kim and Putin inadvertently convince SK to throw more aid at Ukraine as a big FU then the funniest thing is they'll have ended up doing more damage than if they had never met at all.

 

[Zor Prime]

This is the equivalent of Russia buying fart in a can from a gag store.

I'm glad there's nothing to be concerned of. That is reassuring.

 

[A///]

I'm glad there's nothing to be concerned of. That is reassuring.

My point was I don't think the quality of north korea's weapons are a huge concern. I expect there to be a lot of duds in whatever junk Russia is buying up. Bullets would work. Old bullets decades old will work. You might get a jam or two but it'll work. The rest... I'm not so confident.

Zelensky stated yesterday they began their counter offensive too late due to eu nations holding onto their dicks for far too long deciding what to do. There's talk of Puto Putin amassing 700K conscripts. I have the utmost confidence Ukraine will blow past these kids one way or another by end of 2024.

I want to see Putin's head on a fucking pole by Christmas next year.

 

[Brovane]

I want to see Putin's head on a fucking pole by Christmas next year.

Does the Biden Administration want that?

 

[K1052]

If NK gives Russia artillery ammo then what? The Russians can't keep their guns anywhere near firing position because a 150K GMLRS rocket appears and incinerates/perforates a 2-3M dollar SPG plus possibly its crew.