Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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K1052

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The Russians have exhausted most of their offensive potential. Throwing bodies at the problem works to an extent but the limitations in munitions, vehicles, leadership, etc all result in forces that might have the mighty names of their predecessors but are really hollowed out shells.

Their operation in Donbas looks like the full extent of what they can accomplish with current resources...which is not good for them. They are still of course dangerous but the contours of the threat are kind of obvious now.
 
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Ajay

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The Russians have exhausted most of their offensive potential. Throwing bodies at the problem works to an extent but the limitations in munitions, vehicles, leadership, etc all result in forces that might have the mighty names of their predecessors but are really hollowed out shells.

Their operation in Donbas looks like the full extent of what they can accomplish with current resources...which is not good for them. They are still of course dangerous, but the contours of the threat are kind of obvious now.
I just don't know what to believe anymore vis-a-vis Russian ordinance supplies. It appears that armor is a serious problem. The virtual shutdown of refurbishment plants is pretty telling, new parts are apparently very scarce. The outreach to China is clearly indicative of at least a mid-term problem of a lack of ordinance, but from what I've read, there is an open question WRT how much Russian stock is available right now. Perhaps you have seen someone authoritative come out and say what the situation is; I haven't as of yet. In the mean-time, piling on bodies is maintaining the stalemate.
 

Ajay

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Another March arrives, will it be more productive than the last? Give us the dead dictator the world needs?

Let's go Ides! Was kind of hoping Ramzan thinks Putin is the one who tried to kill him, then goes for revenge.
Curious if the Ukrainians will slow their roll till more tanks can be arrive at forward positions this summer.
 

Indus

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This is over a month old but it is something to be concerned about:


That 3 things are going to be in short supply this year:

Bullets
Wheat
Fertilizer


Their entire strategy is throw meat at the problem and hope the Ukrainians run out of bullets. And they love targeting civilians because they want to destroy the entire Ukrainian people.

If they get around to killing enough Ukrainian farmers.. they'll create a famine.

So we gotta send the Ukrainians bullets. Just gotta have the bullets to kill em all!

I am starting to sour a bit on this war ending without Russia losing at least 2 - 3 million troops. Lets hope we can supply Ukraine enough and still have enough left for Taiwan!
 
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you2

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Well you know if russians can't even close their windows; it is no wonder they suffer on the battlefield.
Having said that did you hear that yesterday the Russian claim Ukraine invaded them and they are just defending themselves. The whole thing was so silly everyone had a good laugh. The more serious things that gets me is just how poor Russian 'lying' has been the past 4 or 5 years on the diplomatic front. If we go back to when they shot down a commercial airline over Ukraine; it wasn't just the lying but the incredibly poor 'fake' images to show it was ukraine missles that shot it down. I mean you go back 20 years and Russia actually had a clue how to lie and produce fakes but these days they can't even tell a good story.

Oh yea people like links; here is the link to another embarrassing performance:
 
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gorobei

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wagner has been complaining that they do the work and then the army orders them to stop and lets the regular army forces do the final push that take the location and the credit/glory.

if the rumors of russia undersupplying ammo to wagner are true, then it means shoigu and gerasimov have solid support and arent afraid to start cutting prigozhin out. he is probably putting out this pr to try to get the hardliners back home to pressure putler to reinstate wagner's favored position in the supply priority.

it is pretty sad that all these cronies are scrambling like mad to be the one to get the credit for a victory to show the home crowd. a strategicly unimportant tiny bit of land that they spent way too much materiel and lives to take, but they all want it.
 
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feralkid

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So Rheinmetall wants to build a Panther tank factory in Ukraine




Sometimes you just have to smile.

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rommelrommel

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I just don't know what to believe anymore vis-a-vis Russian ordinance supplies. It appears that armor is a serious problem. The virtual shutdown of refurbishment plants is pretty telling, new parts are apparently very scarce. The outreach to China is clearly indicative of at least a mid-term problem of a lack of ordinance, but from what I've read, there is an open question WRT how much Russian stock is available right now. Perhaps you have seen someone authoritative come out and say what the situation is; I haven't as of yet. In the mean-time, piling on bodies is maintaining the stalemate.

It's a matter of what ordinance. They have lots of small arms ammunition, mortars, tank ammunition. They have a reasonable amount of artillery shells, and can continue to make a reasonable amount. They don't have many precision munitions of any kind, and can't make a large amount of them either.
 
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rommelrommel

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This is over a month old but it is something to be concerned about:


That 3 things are going to be in short supply this year:

Bullets
Wheat
Fertilizer


Their entire strategy is throw meat at the problem and hope the Ukrainians run out of bullets. And they love targeting civilians because they want to destroy the entire Ukrainian people.

If they get around to killing enough Ukrainian farmers.. they'll create a famine.

So we gotta send the Ukrainians bullets. Just gotta have the bullets to kill em all!

I am starting to sour a bit on this war ending without Russia losing at least 2 - 3 million troops. Lets hope we can supply Ukraine enough and still have enough left for Taiwan!

He's not a credible analyst, all he does is make wild predictions with the hope the odd one will come true.
 

Jaskalas

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Even if Russia surrenders tomorrow, Ukraine will be battered and wounded for decades to follow.
Some 15 million displaced, entire cities bombed off the face of the earth.
Entire fields of farmland turned to smoking craters with chemical and metal fragments strewn about. Scarred by trenches, drenched in blood and guts. The farmers long gone, one way or another.

If Crimea is not returned and real security guarantees achieved, the threat of this nightmare starting all over again will hang heavy over the Ukrainians and anyone who would invest in their recovery. There can be no lasting peace with Russians still holding forward positions and ready to strike the land and blockade the seas. Whose hatred and lust for Genocide would deny the world a primary source of food. Or the Ukrainians peace of mind.

"Victory" cannot be allowed to look as hollowed out as many Ukrainian cities are now.

 
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trenchfoot

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The pressure increases on the Russian establishment...



I'm sure Ukraine is sending their best and brightest and will share their knowledge with their fellow aviator heroes when they return to Ukraine so as to establish a top tier Falcon Squadron/Wing back home. I'd love to see that come true some time in the near future.
 
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kage69

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ahh yes, the Loose Screen of Death strikes again.


Well it did, just last month. I posted about it, like 3 other posters linked it too.

The most recent case of sudden death for Russians of note is I think the guy who made their Sputnik vaccine. Maybe it's failure to do anything for covid and the ridicule it led to just became unbearable for Putin or some of his buddies?

Because someone jumped Andrey Botikov, strangled and stabbed him to death. No sudden gust of gravity or polonium tea for that guy.
 
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cytg111

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They've lost so many BMPs that Ukraine says they're seeing assaults done in trucks instead of armored vehicles.

Going to be adding the BTR-50 to the loss list soon lol.
I saw a vid yesterday of Ukraine mounting a automatic fucking grenade launcher to the back of a pickup truck and doing insane shit with it.
I mean the Russian side could in theory do the same……………
 
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Racan

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Putin will keep pushing meat in the grinder with the hope that this useful tool will be back in office next year.

 
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