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Brovane

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“Tariffs” will end the war. 🤣 What a maroon.

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Trump Reveals His Genius Plan to Force Russia to End War on Ukraine

Remember when Trump promised to end the war on Ukraine in just 24 hours? Here’s the plan.
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Trump Threatens Sanctions, Tariffs on Russia if Putin Won’t End War in Ukraine

Trump is about to find out that things are a lot more complex than he thought and that Putin isn't going to his bidding. I remember reading some statements from government sources inside of Ukraine that wouldn't go on record. Having Trump elected inserts a lot of uncertainty for both Russia and Ukraine into the war. They also said that a Biden 2.0 administration (Harris getting elected) would have subjected them to slow strangulation as they experience now. They would rather in some ways roll the dice with Trump. I think Putin is going to tell Trump no for a peace deal and this is just going to piss off Trump.

“Trump’s post is pretty significant because there’s just been this big question in the diplomatic community and in the markets about whether Trump would keep his foot on the gas on Russia sanctions,” said Edward Fishman, a former State Department sanctions official. “It’s clear that Russia’s economy is reeling, and I think Putin’s hope was that Trump would give him a reprieve.”

In his statement Wednesday, Trump wrote that he had Russia’s interests at heart in proposing a peace deal. “I’m going to do Russia, whose Economy is failing, and President Putin a very big FAVOR,” he wrote. “Settle now, and STOP this ridiculous War! IT’S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE.”

One major avenue for sanctions Trump can take is targeting more of Russia’s oil, including some of its biggest oil producers Rosneft and Lukoil. Sanctions imposed in the last days of the Biden administration targeted two Russian oil producers.

Such measures would go after the heart of the country’s oil industry that has so far sustained Moscow’s ability to wage war. Oil and gas revenues have accounted for about a third to a half of total federal budget revenues in recent years.

Sanctions against third countries could also be part of the toolbox, including Chinese refineries that are buying Russian oil or Indian ports that are offloading Russian oil, Fishman said. More banks that process Russian payments in China and other countries could also be blacklisted. New sanctions could further gum up Russia’s ability to pay for its imports, adding to inflation.
 
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Hey, if his first play isn't throwing Ukraine under the bus then I consider that a win.

Sounds like that's what his guy in the Pentagon wants to do but guess he hasn't been on this ride before.

Trump repeatedly bragged on the campaign trail that he could end the Russia-Ukraine War in “24 hours,” but after he won the election, Russia threw cold water on that idea, even boosting its troop levels less than a week later. Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg, the new president’s choice for special envoy for Ukraine and Russia, a post solely focused on ending the war, has suggested withholding aid for Ukraine in order to force negotiations with Russia.

Kellogg has already backtracked on a quick end to the war, suggesting that Trump never really had a concrete plan to quickly end hostilities as he promised. The fact that the president is now bringing up sanctions when only four months ago, he decried their use against Russia, seems to indicate that his threat is a bluff and he’s making up a plan on the fly. Russia is probably not going to respond in the way Trump wants.
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Looks like someone is going under the bus Keith, we'll see who it is...
 
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Hey we should Tariff the shit out of all our imports from Russia and North Korea. It will be like an extra $200 a year in revenue.
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I really wonder what that $2.9B in Russian goods exported in 2024 to the US was?

With trade ties between the U.S. and Russia withering, the efficacy of Trump’s direct threat of tariffs is questionable. Russia exported about $2.9 billion worth of goods to the U.S. in 2024, according to Census Bureau data, down from $29.6 billion in 2021, before the war started.
 
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Brovane said:
I really wonder what that $2.9B in Russian goods exported in 2024 to the US was?

With trade ties between the U.S. and Russia withering, the efficacy of Trump’s direct threat of tariffs is questionable. Russia exported about $2.9 billion worth of goods to the U.S. in 2024, according to Census Bureau data, down from $29.6 billion in 2021, before the war started.
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-Probably bribe money for politicians...

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Edit: not to be confused with mail order brides...
 
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GodisanAtheist said:
Hey, if his first play isn't throwing Ukraine under the bus then I consider that a win.

Sounds like that's what his guy in the Pentagon wants to do but guess he hasn't been on this ride before.



Looks like someone is going under the bus Keith, we'll see who it is...
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I guess there won't be a Trump hotel in Moscow after all.
 
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Brovane said:
I really wonder what that $2.9B in Russian goods exported in 2024 to the US was?

With trade ties between the U.S. and Russia withering, the efficacy of Trump’s direct threat of tariffs is questionable. Russia exported about $2.9 billion worth of goods to the U.S. in 2024, according to Census Bureau data, down from $29.6 billion in 2021, before the war started.
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Vodka?
 
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It's funny that Trump wants to pressure SA to put more oil on the market to accelerate the deterioration of Russian state finances. Further evidence he sees Putin as weak and vulnerable now.
 
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K1052 said:
It's funny that Trump wants to pressure SA to put more oil on the market to accelerate the deterioration of Russian state finances. Further evidence he sees Putin as weak and vulnerable now.
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Trump will use people and then discard them.

And everyone who helps him is the Arrested Development meme where they think some repeated partnership with Trump will somehow work out for them, even though all prior people are burned.
 
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i wonder how quickly Russia is able to restore operation to these plants. The picture has been painted that they relied heavily on western contractors to build alot of them right. What is reality ?
 
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i wonder how quickly Russia is able to restore operation to these plants. The picture has been painted that they relied heavily on western contractors to build alot of them right. What is reality ?
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Like America is beginning to do now; years ago Russia destroyed the intellectual class and now depend heavily on import for technology. While destroying the intellectual class made it easy for Putin to remain in power it resulted in many newer weapon systems working only in propaganda. The sad thing is in 20 years America will also reach the same point if the Republicans continue down the current path of gutting and limiting education (I have a friend who works in a red state university and they hired a new Provost who quickly gutted the math, physics and a few other programs - her reason - students should learn about practical things like farming and don't need these other things).


Sadly the Republicans quest for power and controlling the population they themselves lack the basic understanding of history they strive to repeat.
 
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So far the Russians are whining very heavily about what Trump is saying. They thought he was going to be the golden ticket to victory and are now getting pissed that he says they have to accept his requirements lol.

This is likely to be the tipping point year for the Russian economy if things keep going as they are. Putin of course says everything is fine but the agreement is near universal that real serious problems will manifest in the coming months with no easy ways out.
 
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