Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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RnR_au

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Interesting long thread on when the Russians will run out of arty;


Russia could be shit out of luck at the beginning of 2025 - regardless of who is President of the USA.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, for Ukraine to win, all it has to do is not lose. Russia will simply wear itself out and it doesn't have the industrial capacity of (sleepy, but waking up) NATO behind it.
 

Jaskalas

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Abrams taken out by a drone and polished off with a RPG it seems. Like the T90 video not long ago, why are these tanks cruising around solo? Seemingly, anyway. The shit.
The sheer scale of this conflict VS the extremely limited supplies we have provided.
This is total war, VS Russia.

People seem to forget the scale involved, or the length of the thousand KM frontline. Only China would present a larger threat.
 

kage69

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I see Denys Davydov has footage of the Abrams that got taken out in one of his videos from today.

Abrams have been there fighting for a month and Russia finally got one. Oh well. It's a shame, albeit an expected one. Even the Iraqis disabled some. Given the pics I bet crew got out fine.

No Russian tanks involved though apparently. Yeah, that scans. :wink:
 

raildogg

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Here we have pro-West, pro-Ukraine media reporting that Ukraine is in big trouble.

But it is going to turn the tide, right guys?

And the Republicans in America also are turning against Ukraine. Maybe they have finally realized that Ukraine cannot win?


But the geopolitics experts here have a different opinion. Ukraine just needs to drain Russian weapons and soldiers and then it will win. Ok guys.
 
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raildogg

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Polish farmers are sick of Ukraine's cheap stuff. They don't want it anymore. They can't compete with cheap Ukrainian grains so you will hear more of this stuff coming out now. I want Ukrainian farmers to do well so this is not my opinion about them. But there is anger amongst many European farmers.

I was talking with a couple of Polish guys recently and one of them said there are too many Ukrainians in Poland. This is how many Polish people feel.

This war is bad for many countries so it needs to end. Negotiate before Ukraine loses more land.


The Slovakian border crossing is being blocked now by Polish farmers. They don't want cheap Ukrainian grain undermining their own grain. They are doing this at the Lithuanian border as well. Once again, Ukrainian goods being brought to Poland.

“We will verify trucks…[to see] whether they are carrying grain or not,” one of the protest’s co-organisers, Maciej Wirzowski, told Polsat News. “A huge amount of [Ukrainian] goods, including grain, enters Poland from Slovakia.”

Sneaky people:

"They claim that a so-called “carousel system” operates, whereby Ukrainian grain is brought into Poland and then taken to Lithuania. It is then transported back into Poland but now classified as EU goods, reports the Polish Press Agency (PAP)."
 
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kage69

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Here we have pro-West, pro-Ukraine media reporting that Ukraine is in big trouble.

But it is going to turn the tide, right guys?

And the Republicans in America also are turning against Ukraine. Maybe they have finally realized that Ukraine cannot win?


But the geopolitics experts here have a different opinion. Ukraine just needs to drain Russian weapons and soldiers and then it will win. Ok guys.

If you find yourself on the same side of an issue as magats and Putin, probably time to re-evaluate your life. Repugs have been against Ukraine since Il Douche abused the foreign policy of the US to try and help his re-election campaign via extorting Zelenskyy. Where have you been? I guess you just want to make it absolutely clear your grasp of recent history is as bad, or worse, than your understanding of general history? Weird flex but sure, ok.

Putin has been trying to get his way with Ukraine for 10 years now, the same amount of time people have been saying Ukraine will never win, incidentally. He's ruined his country and military (down 400-500k soldiers) for 18% of Ukraine's territory, in addition to making NATO the strongest military alliance in the history of the world while debunking his own rationale for invading. They've got 2-3 years of shitty vehicles left. Crimea hangs by a thread. Dogshit Navy, no real AF to speak of, and their SF are extinct; just meat waves and the help of various 3rd world dictatorships who also don't give a shit about killing civilians. And then there's the constant loss of leadership, also the massive brain drain from the talent exodus, something that Russia will feel for years regardless of what happens with Ukraine...

Ukraine doesn't have a choice but to defend itself. When a butcher who doesn't respect agreements or borders starts to exterminate your people, you don't have the luxury of pretending warfare and geopolitics are interchangeable terms. There's no negotiating with terrorists who don't respect negotiated agreements. It's really just a hilarious pity you still can't comprehend that, many Putin fluffers suffer this difficulty I've noticed. You guys pound denial like Medvedev pounds vodka, and with similar results.

One more time: Europe has no intention of letting the repug betrayal of Ukraine determine the future of Europe. Those dumbfuck bratva woke up Germany.



Russia has been exposed as a paper bear, and you a dishonest hack who knows fuckall about war and history. How many times are you going to keep going over this?
 
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raildogg

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He's not ruined his country and that figure you mentioned is off the mark. I have not seen it mentioned by various sources I follow. NATO is the strongest military alliance? It's a bunch of small and mid sized countries who have neglected their industrial base for decades and are too much dependent on USA. Without the USA, they are not much. Turkey is the strongest NATO country from what I can see and many don't even consider them as "real" NATO since there is plenty of tensions. UK is a joke and so is Germany. France is OK though.

Russia has replaced Western companies with most Chinese companies for much of its consumer stuff. It's a big win for China, who certainly does not want to see Russia defeated because it knows it is next. It is basic geopolitics, hope you understand this. Nothing too deep.

Oh wow, no more McDonalds in Russia! How can Russia live like this?! C'mon man, be serious. Chinese car companies are thriving now, out producing and out-exporting anything from America. Thanks to your sanctions, mainly.
 
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He's not ruined his country and that figure you mentioned is off the mark. I have not seen it mentioned by various sources I follow. NATO is the strongest military alliance? It's a bunch of small and mid sized countries who have neglected their industrial base for decades and are too much dependent on USA. With the USA, they are not much. Turkey is the strongest NATO country from what I can see and many don't even consider them as "real" NATO since there is plenty of tensions. UK is a joke and so is Germany. France is OK though.

Russia has replaced Western companies with most Chinese companies for much of its consumer stuff. It's a big win for China, who certainly does not want to see Russia defeated because it knows it is next. It is basic geopolitics, hope you understand this. Nothing too deep.

Oh wow, no more McDonalds in Russia! How can Russia live like this?! C'mon man, be serious. Chinese car companies are thriving now, out producing and out-exporting anything from America. Thanks to your sanctions, mainly.
What are you babbling about?
 

kage69

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He's not ruined his country and that figure you mentioned is off the mark. I have not seen it mentioned by various sources I follow. NATO is the strongest military alliance? It's a bunch of small and mid sized countries who have neglected their industrial base for decades and are too much dependent on USA. Without the USA, they are not much. Turkey is the strongest NATO country from what I can see and many don't even consider them as "real" NATO since there is plenty of tensions. UK is a joke and so is Germany. France is OK though.

Russia has replaced Western companies with most Chinese companies for much of its consumer stuff. It's a big win for China, who certainly does not want to see Russia defeated because it knows it is next. It is basic geopolitics, hope you understand this. Nothing too deep.

Oh wow, no more McDonalds in Russia! How can Russia live like this?! C'mon man, be serious. Chinese car companies are thriving now, out producing and out-exporting anything from America. Thanks to your sanctions, mainly.


A global pariah, isolated and weak, with a currency that doubles as toilet paper and a military that's been exposed as a corruption riddled husk. 'Fraid so. The poorest country in Europe has stood up and rebuked the mighty Russian (paper) bear; it's down to less than half of it's strength on land and somehow keeps losing it's Black Sea fleet to a country with no navy. Oh and then there's the coup attempt, also Putin's need to keep killing off dissidents and competition. This may surprise you but almost losing control of your regime to a coup in the middle of a war you started isn't the green health indicator you think it is.

Chinese companies supply inferior goods and production methods, all the good stuff came from the West and the Russians admit it. China wants Russia weak apparently. The support, while annoying, has been quite selective, thankfully. Having their designs exposed as weak copies of Russian shit is a real danger now. Perhaps you've noticed China stealing Russia's thunder with other Federation states, cancelling pipeline deals with Russia at the same time? lol do go on

McDonalds? I would expect the abundant lack of indoor toilets to be more pressing to the average Russian than shitty fast food. Russia is poor, will be getting poorer. Putin has no issue letting the country continue to rot while he props up the military as much as possible. Unsurprisingly, it sounds like you haven't checked out China's economy at all in the last, idk, 12-16 months? Thriving? They've gone from bad to worse. Does the word Evergrande mean anything to you? How about the term tofu dreg?

Fuck you're ignorant, when do you get serious about pulling your head out of your ass? Every post you make keeps showing how little you understand, stop embarrassing yourself. Better cheerleaders than you have tried and failed, you should read about it. Start on Page 1 of this thread.
 
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Here we have pro-West, pro-Ukraine media reporting that Ukraine is in big trouble.

But it is going to turn the tide, right guys?

And the Republicans in America also are turning against Ukraine. Maybe they have finally realized that Ukraine cannot win?


But the geopolitics experts here have a different opinion. Ukraine just needs to drain Russian weapons and soldiers and then it will win. Ok guys.
Re "finally realized Ukraine cannot win" : there is no other end result. Russia doesn't honor agreements, it's a Wendigo that wants to reinstate the Soviet Union and it will not stop feeding at Kiev.

Anyway, what is your suggestion to end this conflict?
 
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Here we have pro-West, pro-Ukraine media reporting that Ukraine is in big trouble.

But it is going to turn the tide, right guys?

And the Republicans in America also are turning against Ukraine. Maybe they have finally realized that Ukraine cannot win?


But the geopolitics experts here have a different opinion. Ukraine just needs to drain Russian weapons and soldiers and then it will win. Ok guys.
Suck a bag of dicks you treasonous sorry ass excuse of human waste
 

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A global pariah, isolated and weak, with a currency that doubles as toilet paper and a military that's been exposed as a corruption riddled husk. 'Fraid so. The poorest country in Europe has stood up and rebuked the mighty Russian (paper) bear; it's down to less than half of it's strength on land and somehow keeps losing it's Black Sea fleet to a country with no navy. Oh and then there's the coup attempt, also Putin's need to keep killing off dissidents and competition. This may surprise you but almost losing control of your regime to a coup in the middle of a war you started isn't the green health indicator you think it is.

Chinese companies supply inferior goods and production methods, all the good stuff came from the West and the Russians admit it. China wants Russia weak apparently. The support, while annoying, has been quite selective, thankfully. Having their designs exposed as weak copies of Russian shit is a real danger now. Perhaps you've noticed China stealing Russia's thunder with other Federation states, cancelling pipeline deals with Russia at the same time? lol do go on

McDonalds? I would expect the abundant lack of indoor toilets to be more pressing to the average Russian than shitty fast food. Russia is poor, will be getting poorer. Putin has no issue letting the country continue to rot while he props up the military as much as possible. Unsurprisingly, it sounds like you haven't checked out China's economy at all in the last, idk, 12-16 months? Thriving? They've gone from bad to worse. Does the word Evergrande mean anything to you? How about the term tofu dreg?

Fuck you're ignorant, when do you get serious about pulling your head out of your ass? Every post you make keeps showing how little you understand, stop embarrassing yourself. Better cheerleaders than you have tried and failed, you should read about it. Start on Page 1 of this thread.

also don't forget that Occupied Mongolia's super awesome undefeatable Hypersonic Kinzal missiles are so superior that they are being iced by 20 year-old trash missiles, and that Puter is so pleased with this success that he murdered the engineers involved in their design.

Such winning!
 

zinfamous

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That is a very unreliable account and I’m not really seeing anything that corroborates this claim.

If it ends up being real, I don't see why Poland can't just run in and clean house. It's not like they are actually part of the current Soviet territory as it is a land simply occupied by orcs. Putin will be in no position to do anything about it.

He doesn't care about his remote orc colonies. Just talking points. He wiped out all of his own orc colonies while invading Ukraine in order to "protect them."

If those savages west of Ukraine really do want to start something, it would be necessary, I think, to get in there and wipe them out pronto. They aren't a state, anyway.
 
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