Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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K1052

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If we do not bleed Russia here and now, if Russia does not lose its gains, there will be far more blood later. Far more.
I think a few of those stories have been placed by Russian supporters or its a psyop from Ukraine for some strange reason.

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Plenty of Euro countries have stated long term military support for Ukraine. Ukraine's own domestic production of weapons and ammunition have been scaling up.
 

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I think a few of those stories have been placed by Russian supporters or its a psyop from Ukraine for some strange reason.
Exactly what I thought when reading them. Yes, this offensive didn't go as well as the last one. Russia had more time to prepare defenses. The Russians threw insane numbers of poorly soldiers at the Ukrainians. The West has consistently been two quarters behind on giving the UA the weapons they need to win.
 

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A couple of interesting threads on the state of the conflict in Ukraine as it has unfolded during summer and fall;


I thought the above was a good multi faceted summary. Its all too easy to focus just on the colours on the map.

The following post had some interesting replies;
The following assertions can all be true:
- Ukrainian counteroffensive failed to achieve its original goals
- The war is not a stalemate (Russia is gearing up for another offensive as we speak)
- Negotiations cannot resolve this conflict right now just as they haven’t since 2014
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At least the Ukrainian command realized that the southern offensive was unachievable with the means available and changed course to preserve some combat power.The Russians have the advantage of being willing to ignore losses and keep pressing forward for limited gains.

1. Partly agree, since goal was severing LOCs, which happened due to arrival of storm shadows/atacms
2. Attritional war but not stalemate
3. True, the stakes on both sides are too high for compromise
 

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In the end we might have to accept that the Ukrainians will have to grind through a somewhat unknown amount of soviet military equipment before they can start winning. By covert cabals storage count Russia has an optimistic 2 years at current losses before they start to run out of old equipment to throw into the front lines.
Realistically I think that by this time next year cracks will start to show as manpower losses and trying to refurbish increasingly decrepit equipment will start to cause the Russians meaningful territory losses.
 
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In the end we might have to accept that the Ukrainians will have to grind through a somewhat unknown amount of soviet military equipment before they can start winning. By covert cabals storage count Russia has an optimistic 2 years at current losses before they start to run out of old equipment to throw into the front lines.
Realistically I think that by this time next year cracks will start to show as manpower losses and trying to refurbish increasingly decrepit equipment will start to cause the Russians meaningful territory losses.

We should endeavor to help Ukraine destroy this equipment and the personnel with it in the most efficient manner.

The most efficient manner:

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In the end we might have to accept that the Ukrainians will have to grind through a somewhat unknown amount of soviet military equipment before they can start winning. By covert cabals storage count Russia has an optimistic 2 years at current losses before they start to run out of old equipment to throw into the front lines.
Realistically I think that by this time next year cracks will start to show as manpower losses and trying to refurbish increasingly decrepit equipment will start to cause the Russians meaningful territory losses.

It’s only getting worse for Russian soldiers as they travel backward in time.
 

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Well f16 in a few months be a significant + to ukraine military ?

They will be a significant upgrade from their current, likely incredibly over hours and getting harder to fix, aircraft. Better (though not the best) radars and able to accept almost any NATO munition. How much of a benefit will depend on exactly what kinds of munitions they are provided and if they can tie into Ukraine's ground based air defense network to receive targeting data (probably).
 
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The office of President Volodymyr Zelensky on Saturday chastised Ukraine’s top military commander for publicly declaring the war at a stalemate, suggesting the comments would help the Russian invasion. It was a striking public rebuke that signaled an emerging rift between the military and civilian leadership at an already challenging time for Ukraine.
Speaking on national television, a deputy head of the office of the president, Ihor Zhovkva, said Gen. Valery Zaluzhny’s assertion that the fight against Russia was deadlocked “eases the work of the aggressor,” adding that the comments stirred “panic” among Ukraine’s Western allies.


Another day, another Ukrainian hit piece.
 

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Friction between military and civilian leadership in countries that are not dictatorships while at war are not remotely new developments, it's pretty standard.

Whereas if if somebody in the military in Russia complains or displeases Putin they fall out of a 5th story window, have an airplane "accident", or end up with the Polonium appetizer.
 

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Supposedly the "damaged" Askold in the Kerch shipyard. If this is it then it took what looks like 2-3 direct hits on this side including all the important bits (CIC, radars, etc). Total loss.



Haha, another day, another charred wreck of something important to Russia. That thing is fuct.

Sure are a lot of S-400 batteries that bear a striking resemblance to Russian tanks these days, how wonderful. Not just in Ukraine either, seems the Syrians consider them a failure. Drones and Adir don't give a shit about Triumf.

Hey whatever happened to those Almaz-Antey designers Putin had arrested anyway, anyone know? The suites at Lefortovo maybe, or knowing Putin, are they in gibbets, dangling from The Kerch bridge?
 
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