Running engine while pumping gas

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EightySix Four

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My F150 does that. For some reason it doesn't move until you turn the ignition off then back on. I don't understand that, because how would it monitor gas while driving?

It's designed not to go upwards very easily, so that sloshing around doesn't cause the needle to bounce around.

There's no problem putting remote start on a manual trans vehicle. It's quite common.

I watched someone jump their car into a light pole because they left it in first and used the remote starter. I will never put a remote start on a manual car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kwQtugSZ9g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFj2pEgSvO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UKZ5l925-s
 
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Possessed Freak

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It's designed not to go upwards very easily, so that sloshing around doesn't cause the needle to bounce around.



I watched someone jump their car into a light pole because they left it in first and used the remote starter. I will never put a remote start on a manual car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kwQtugSZ9g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFj2pEgSvO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UKZ5l925-s

Eh, if you never leave the car in gear you are fine. I only leave my car in gear on a steep hill. It ain't like I let anyone else drive the mighty Saturn.
 

Triumph

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Eh, if you never leave the car in gear you are fine. I only leave my car in gear on a steep hill. It ain't like I let anyone else drive the mighty Saturn.

parking brakes fail, or at the very least loosen up. you should be leaving it in gear anyway.
 

Rifter

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I wouldnt worry about it. I spent a few winters working up north when i was younger and for 4 months no one ever turned there cards off, ever, in the whole city. You fill it up running, you leave it in your driveway at night running, you leave it running while in the store. If you turn your car off for more than 5 min when its -45c good luck on getting it started again before summer or a couple hours spent in a heated shop after you tow it there. Most of the time though i was driving a diesel pickup, but would not hesitate to fill up a gas veh either while running if it was super cold out.
 

thepd7

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because the mechanism to keep the gas flowing has been deemed unsafe so pumps don't have those locks anymore.
you could trigger a CEL if you open the gas cap while the car is running.

o_O

They do up here. I try to avoid gas stations that don't have them.

I just moved to MA from Texas and I work in NH/MA quite a bit. I definitely noticed a lack of locks on the pump handles. I'd say 25% actually have them. I just stuff something in there and go inside (or back in my Jeep).


I have always left my car running when refilling.
I almost always get back in my car during the fill up as well.

Even if the gas nozzle doesn't have the holder clips, I stuff my gas cap under the trigger to keep it engaged.
All nozzles have the anti-overflow feature, regardless if it has the holder clips or not.

I refuse to be inconvenienced thousands of times in my life because of a 1 in 10 million chance of starting a fire. (I bet 1 in 10mil is pretty accurate)

Gas cap...that's brilliant. I always have to search for something.
 
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And a quick call to the police will get you fined. I'll be more than happy to make the call if you do it next to me.

Of course, the last time some asshole decided to leave his running after I asked him not to (he then went inside the store to pay), I helped him turn his car off. I wonder if he ever found his keys.

There is absolutely no reason to put people at risk in a situation like this, no matter how small the risk.

Being the internet, we know you didn't actually do this.
But anyone reading and thinking this is a good idea, think about this. In states that allow people to carry firearms, you better hope to whatever diety you believe in that the owner is carrying and doesn't have the belief that you are trying to steal his car, because you're gonna get shot.
 

IcePickFreak

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It's designed not to go upwards very easily, so that sloshing around doesn't cause the needle to bounce around.



I watched someone jump their car into a light pole because they left it in first and used the remote starter. I will never put a remote start on a manual car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kwQtugSZ9g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFj2pEgSvO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UKZ5l925-s

That second vid is brilliant. The guy remote starts when he's standing right at the door, then he opens the door just in time to over-extend it before hitting the truck. A hat-trick of fail.
 

LTC8K6

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It's designed not to go upwards very easily, so that sloshing around doesn't cause the needle to bounce around.



I watched someone jump their car into a light pole because they left it in first and used the remote starter. I will never put a remote start on a manual car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kwQtugSZ9g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFj2pEgSvO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UKZ5l925-s


Improperly installed/used remote starters shouldn't discourage anyone.
 

Cogman

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Your gas tank was built to store highly combustible fuel that sloshes around constantly while you are in motion. Running a car while fueling is pretty much no different from running a car while not fueling. The only difference is that gas is flowing into the tank faster than it is leaving.

It is the same thing as "Don't use your cell phone while fueling!" Really, Come on people. It only seams wrong because there is combustion going on close to a large fuel source. But people easily seam to forget that is the situation cars have operated under since their inception.


Now, it is somewhat a waste in most situations, but that is it.
 

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I registered on this site just to respond to your unbelievable signature:

"I can't say for sure, but I think I'd rather be sexually abused as a kid if it meant I'd still be able to run and play and climb trees."

Really?!!! Are you actually that naive, that brainless, that uncomprehending, that you think sexual abuse is a fair price to pay for playing outside????

Do you know ANYONE who has been sexually abused?! Do you have the faintest conception of the absolute degradation of self, of the anguish, of the lifelong horror that goes along with sexual abuse?!

I can't believe you would be so insanely stupid as to post this -- and think it's so clever that it should be your signature -- and that no moderator has had the faint glimmer of intelligence necessary to instantly smash your stupidity down, since you can't seem to figure this out for yourself.

Absolutely unbelievable. :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
 

videogames101

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I registered on this site just to respond to your unbelievable signature:

"I can't say for sure, but I think I'd rather be sexually abused as a kid if it meant I'd still be able to run and play and climb trees."

Really?!!! Are you actually that naive, that brainless, that uncomprehending, that you think sexual abuse is a fair price to pay for playing outside????

Do you know ANYONE who has been sexually abused?! Do you have the faintest conception of the absolute degradation of self, of the anguish, of the lifelong horror that goes along with sexual abuse?!

I can't believe you would be so insanely stupid as to post this -- and think it's so clever that it should be your signature -- and that no moderator has had the faint glimmer of intelligence necessary to instantly smash your stupidity down, since you can't seem to figure this out for yourself.

Absolutely unbelievable. :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

You realize it's a quote?
 
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I registered on this site just to respond to your unbelievable signature:

"I can't say for sure, but I think I'd rather be sexually abused as a kid if it meant I'd still be able to run and play and climb trees."

Really?!!! Are you actually that naive, that brainless, that uncomprehending, that you think sexual abuse is a fair price to pay for playing outside????

Do you know ANYONE who has been sexually abused?! Do you have the faintest conception of the absolute degradation of self, of the anguish, of the lifelong horror that goes along with sexual abuse?!

I can't believe you would be so insanely stupid as to post this -- and think it's so clever that it should be your signature -- and that no moderator has had the faint glimmer of intelligence necessary to instantly smash your stupidity down, since you can't seem to figure this out for yourself.

Absolutely unbelievable. :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:


You really should start a new thread on this, in my opinion. Click off-topic to the left, then new thread.
 

mountainman38

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Do it "just because" you don't want to get blown up. Even if the odds are extremely small, the odds of it happening with your car running are more than likely significantly higher than with your car off.

Not taking the precaution to shut your vehicle off while fueling is just plain stupid. Why don't you rub your feet on the ground for a couple of minutes and touch the gas handle while you're at it.

Making comments like this is just plain stupid. Just because you can't comprehend that there are lots of reasons for people to leave their car running, doesn't mean it's stupid to do.

Try to comprehend that the world may be a shade larger than just exactly what you've seen of it. Don't want to leave your car running? Don't. Just don't tell me not to. Or that it's stupid to do, because you don't understand math. There's a chance the video player could short, catch the seat on fire, and burn the car down -- so no one should ever use a video player. Right? o_O
 

mountainman38

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You really should start a new thread on this, in my opinion. Click off-topic to the left, then new thread.

Probably a good idea. I was just so incensed by something so awful being not only posted, but thought to be clever and used as a sig, that I had to post something.
 

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What about all the cars pulling up to the station with their engine running while you're pumping gas?

You should have to turn off the engine 2 miles away from the station and push it to have it fueled. Also no traffic allowed within 2 miles of the gas station.

Some rules are just fucking stupid. My car has a sticker that says DO NOT EAT. I ate it anyway. At least I don't need iron supplements now.
 

LTC8K6

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I'm surprised the Check Engine light doesn't come on with the engine running and the gas cap off.
 

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why is this even a discussion? what's so hard about turning the engine off every time you leave your vehicle?
 

SparkyJJO

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I'm surprised the Check Engine light doesn't come on with the engine running and the gas cap off.

Cap has to be off for a certain amount of time before it throws the code. Plus, you just shoved that nozzle in the neck anyway :p

why is this even a discussion? what's so hard about turning the engine off every time you leave your vehicle?

Because people are stupid.

What's much more dangerous than leaving the engine running while getting gas is getting in and out of the car while filling up.
 

mountainman38

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And a quick call to the police will get you fined. I'll be more than happy to make the call if you do it next to me.

Of course, the last time some asshole decided to leave his running after I asked him not to (he then went inside the store to pay), I helped him turn his car off. I wonder if he ever found his keys.

There is absolutely no reason to put people at risk in a situation like this, no matter how small the risk.

Or how small your brain, evidently.

Touch my car, and you'll be looking for a lot more than my keys.

Stupid.
 

TakeNoPrisoners

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Shutting the car off and turning it back on many times is hard on the battery, alternator, and the starter. Those items may be killed quickly from too many rapid starts and stops.

It really isn't necessary to turn off a car while fueling. It is perfectly safe.
 
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