Rumor: Trump will fire Mueller in 5 days

[fskimospy]

If that were the case, throw out every conviction for murderers and drug dealers and rapists because the arresting officers have a prior strong even unchangeable dislike of such people and were clearly out to get them from the get go.

Exactly.

 

[Heinz Dahler]

Exactly.

Nope. Trump is untouchable as long as he is the President, the long line of horrid human beings that founded your nations made it so for good reasons.

He cannot be tried properly until he's out of office but at that point he's somehow granted full immunity for crimes commited during his presidency.

You have a banana republic, that is exactly what you have there and it was designed to be just that.

Don't you worry though, you may play pretend that you can get to vote soon enough. Will you choose 1 or 1 though... that is the retarded question of your entire political system.


You cannot create more accounts when you are on a vacation.


esquared
Anandtech Forum Director

 

[fskimospy]

Nope. Trump is untouchable as long as he is the President, the long line of horrid human beings that founded your nations made it so for good reasons.

He cannot be tried properly until he's out of office but at that point he's somehow granted full immunity for crimes commited during his presidency.

You have a banana republic, that is exactly what you have there and it was designed to be just that.

Don't you worry though, you may play pretend that you can get to vote soon enough. Will you choose 1 or 1 though... that is the retarded question of your entire political system.

What political system are you under?

 

[Amused]

Who was Heinz Dahler?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

I just don't see any good reason for President Trump to fire special prosecutor Mueller. It makes no sense. But then I see no reason why Mueller didn't get a warrant for the emails, it's not as if a judge would have denied him from getting emails from the Trump transition team.

 

[umbrella39]

Who was Heinz Dahler?

One of the good Nazis Trump alluded to?

 

[fskimospy]

I just don't see any good reason for President Trump to fire special prosecutor Mueller. It makes no sense. But then I see no reason why Mueller didn't get a warrant for the emails, it's not as if a judge would have denied him from getting emails from the Trump transition team.

Why would he get a warrant if he didn’t have to?

One good reason would be so that he could tell if people were going to lie about what they said in those emails. It looks like they very well may have, which means more Trump associates going to jail.

 

[FIVR]

I think Trump will fire the deputy AG, appoint a shill, have him fire mueller, appoint some other Trump shill as head of the investigation and that will be the end of it. I'm not holding out much hope for congress doing anything about it, either.


We're fucked. Trump wins by virtue of his lack of scruples.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Why would he get a warrant if he didn’t have to?

One good reason would be so that he could tell if people were going to lie about what they said in those emails. It looks like they very well may have, which means more Trump associates going to jail.

We'll see if he needed one or not, it could very possibly be that anything in the emails isn't admissible if he obtained them without taking the proper legal steps. In my opinion it's always better to get a legal warrant. I'm sure you feel differently.

 

[Maxima1]

We'll see if he needed one or not, it could very possibly be that anything in the emails isn't admissible if he obtained them without taking the proper legal steps. In my opinion it's always better to get a legal warrant. I'm sure you feel differently.

They were .gov emails, so no. Absolutely no reason to think Mueller wouldn't take the proper steps. It's laughable to believe Trump's lawyers. They know they've got a losing case, but they'll still fling turds out of the sewer.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

They were .gov emails, so no. Absolutely no reason to think Mueller wouldn't take the proper steps. It's laughable to believe Trump's lawyers. They know they've got a losing case, but they'll still fling turds out of the sewer.

Yes, yes of course all of Trump's lawyers are just shills and poor lawyers. How could he possibly have experienced and capable lawyers, it's not as if he were the President of the United...... ohh wait. Again, i'm perfectly happy to continue to wait and see how this all plays out and I see no advantage for President Trump to fire Mueller anytime soon.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

We'll see if he needed one or not, it could very possibly be that anything in the emails isn't admissible if he obtained them without taking the proper legal steps. In my opinion it's always better to get a legal warrant. I'm sure you feel differently.

Why would warrants be needed? There was never an expectation of privacy.

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Natasha Bertrand
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.@chrisgeidner spoke to a senior GSA lawyer, who said of the Trump transition team: “In using our devices," transition team members were informed that materials "would not be held back in any law enforcement" actions. "Therefore, no expectation of privacy can be assumed."


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Chris Geidner
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Here's the link to that full story:


Key Officials Push Back Against Trump Campaign’s Claim Fed'l Office Illegally Turned Over Emails To...
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Lauren

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this RIchard Beckler who gave Trump unequivocal assurance of privacy only just came to the GSA in May 2017 and appears to have been in private practice prior to that. Was he a Trump loyalist/friend?


RICHARD "DICK" BECKLER's Obituary on The Washington Post
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[imported_tajmahal]

Why would warrants be needed? There was never an expectation of privacy.

Depending on what story I read the Trump Transition Team was not a .gov organization, but a nonprofit organization that warrants would be needed to seize emails and other items. That the GSA had no right to hand over hard drives etc. Again it depends on what story I read.

 

[ultimatebob]

Fire Mueller in 5 days, impeached in 10 days.

I gotta admit that firing him the Friday before Christmas would be a brilliant move. Congress is on winter break, and most of the news organizations will have a skeleton crew. Other than some partisan whining, no action would get taken until early January at best.

Ever notice that the news always filled with those "best stories of this year" puff pieces during the last two weeks of the year? That crap is filmed weeks in advance, so the news crews can take a holiday vacation.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Depending on what story I read the Trump Transition Team was not a .gov organization, but a nonprofit organization that warrants would be needed to seize emails and other items. That the GSA had no right to hand over hard drives etc. Again it depends on what story I read.

Because it does not have a .gov extension isn't relevant because these are GSA computers, that is the government's. As such in an investigation legitimately has the right of complete access. If a non-profit decides it is going to use another's computer they have no expectation of privacy just by saying they have. That is one reason given for Hillary using private servers for her emails as she knew anything owned by the government would be legally beyond her control.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Because it does not have a .gov extension isn't relevant because these are GSA computers, that is the government's. As such in an investigation legitimately has the right of complete access. If a non-profit decides it is going to use another's computer they have no expectation of privacy just by saying they have. That is one reason given for Hillary using private servers for her emails as she knew anything owned by the government would be legally beyond her control.

Good thing she wasn't a member of the Obama administration or anything then. I just always think it's better to get warrants for specific requests, especially if some may be privileged communications.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Nope. Trump is untouchable as long as he is the President, the long line of horrid human beings that founded your nations made it so for good reasons.

He cannot be tried properly until he's out of office but at that point he's somehow granted full immunity for crimes commited during his presidency.

You have a banana republic, that is exactly what you have there and it was designed to be just that.

Don't you worry though, you may play pretend that you can get to vote soon enough. Will you choose 1 or 1 though... that is the retarded question of your entire political system.


You cannot create more accounts when you are on a vacation.


esquared
Anandtech Forum Director

You guys check ip addresses or something? What is this sorcery you used?

@esquared

 

[HomerJS]

Fake news, even though the president can legally do this.

worked out well for Nixon

 

[imported_tajmahal]

worked out well for Nixon

Nixon was never impeached . You did know didn't you?

 

[Jhhnn]

Why would warrants be needed? There was never an expectation of privacy.

Certainly not a reasonable expectation. Anything you put on a govt (or employer) server is theirs as well as your own. It's a no-brainer. If you want personal privacy you have to use personal devices. Beyond that, transition team members were under no obligation to use govt devices because they weren't doing govt business- not yet, anyway.

It's no different than the inspector general finding Strzok's messages. Well, unless it's the Trump team in which case they're being ruthlessly persecuted. Trumpsters are going to have some trouble wrapping their heads around that...

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Nixon was never impeached . You did know didn't you?

Nixon wasn't and he didn't serve out his full term either.

 

[Jhhnn]

Nixon was never impeached . You did know didn't you?

Yeh, he avoided all that by resigning for the good of the Country.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Certainly not a reasonable expectation. Anything you put on a govt (or employer) server is theirs as well as your own. It's a no-brainer. If you want personal privacy you have to use personal devices. Beyond that, transition team members were under no obligation to use govt devices because they weren't doing govt business- not yet, anyway.

It's no different than the inspector general finding Strzok's messages. Well, unless it's the Trump team in which case they're being ruthlessly persecuted. Trumpsters are going to have some trouble wrapping their heads around that...

Would you need a warrant if some of the communications were attorney-client privileged emails? Or does that not apply?

 

[Younigue]

Any one marginally sane knows why Trump and buds would have a problem with Mueller getting those emails but why do Trump's supporters care? Their guy shouldn't have anything to worry about given how they feel about him and know in their heart of hearts about their stand up guy. Do they expect corruption and treason to be in those emails? Hmmm, WOW!

 

[Maxima1]

Yes, yes of course all of Trump's lawyers are just shills and poor lawyers. How could he possibly have experienced and capable lawyers, it's not as if he were the President of the United...... ohh wait. Again, i'm perfectly happy to continue to wait and see how this all plays out and I see no advantage for President Trump to fire Mueller anytime soon.

Trump's lawyers will draw up a stink to muddy the waters. That's called duhfense. Mueller has no reason to subvert the law. If he needed warrants, he would get warrants. In this case, he just needed to request GSA to release.