Rumor: Intel to delay releasing Ivy Bridge

[Edrick]

I apologize for my ignorance. Which one is the "BD CPU"?

BD = Bulldozer from AMD (yet to be released)

 

[Patrick Wolf]

Every Intel slide (roadmap) I have seen does not show the 2600 as enthusiast. It is a replacement for the i7 860 which was not an enthusiast class chip. The i7 900 series was their enthusiast class lineup, which is being replaced by SB-E.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/30/intels-ivy-bridge-coming-q1-2012-growing-festive-moss-while-yo/

Premium Performance must be Intel speak for Enthusiast. SB-E is geared more toward Extreme - which IMO is mostly for e-peen here. Not many people need an LGA2011 platform. They could get along just fine with an OC'ed 2600K, then jump to IB if more e-peen is desired.

 

[Makaveli]

Its the speed of your e-peen not the size that counts

 

[Nemesis 1]

SB-E is going to be released in Q4 2011. This will make most people forget about the LGA1155 platform.

IB-E most likely will be released in Q3/Q4 of 2012. So the delay to the "mainstream" IB chips would not affect anyone with the SB-E (LGA2011) platform anyways.

People are still comparing the 8 core DB (enthusiast) to the it 2600K (mainstream). This will all change in 3-4 months. Then the IB release in April becomes less significant.

Well IB is a first qt release unless you have info AT hasn't got intel is still say 1st qt. I would like a link please .

 

[Arachnotronic]

No it won't because SB-E (LGA2011) isn't a replacement for 1155. I imagine if IB is delayed it's because once it's released SB-E will become less relevant. And who's to say "IB-E" will even be on LGA2011, or even exist for that matter.

It will exist. What evidence do you have that Intel wouldn't shrink their enthusiast line (which is really their UP server line) to 22nm?

Forget about performance categorizing, it's mostly just a marketing tool. Even though the 2500 and 2600 are neck & neck in most benches, Intel lists the 2500 as mainstream and 2600 as enthusiast.

The 2600 has more L3 cache, is clocked higher, and is hyper-threaded. There are definitely usage patterns (i.e. higher threaded ones) that show why the 2600 is performance premium and 2500 is mainstream. They just don't happen to be games.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Here's Intel's desktop road map from January 2011:

http://imageshack.us/f/811/intelroadmapdesky.png/

Now that does look like an intel roadmap unlike the other one I seen . Were did you get this . It really is ashame I was expected an i7 2700 release in june july But because AMD has nothing to compete with it looks like intel will sit on the 2600k so as to make IB 1155 look even stronger . Dang man can't even count on AMD to push intel

 

[Arachnotronic]

I found the PDF (also have a server one) on the site "jsbenterprizes.com"...they had a section dedicated to Intel roadmaps (they are marketing company), but the site doesn't have a direct link to them on their page anymore. If you google "jsbenterprises intel ww03", you will find the full pdfs for both server and client from January 2011.

 

[Nemesis 1]

SNB-E will likely be extremely expensive. Quad core SNB-E will likely be $400, hex cores will be >= $600.

If I were you, I'd buy an LGA 1155 + 2600K today and be done with it!

Say what quad core SB-e = $400 dolllars highly unlikely. highest would be $350 but thats a bit high considering the 2600k has unlock and an IGP . Likely priced the same as 2600k just on a better M/B Look were its placed on the slide

 

[Nemesis 1]

I found the PDF (also have a server one) on the site "jsbenterprizes.com"...they had a section dedicated to Intel roadmaps (they are marketing company), but the site doesn't have a direct link to them on their page anymore. If you google "jsbenterprises intel ww03", you will find the full pdfs for both server and client from January 2011.

Ok thanks I find it hard to believe I haven't seen these with all the people doing searches here its very odd. Also odd their is no watermark on that slide.

 

[Nemesis 1]

IB was never scheduled for Q1 on the official roadmaps I've seen. It's always been H1 2012.

This is true as I haven't seen one . But intel DID say 1st qt 2012 and that I know to be a Fact and it was said to be early first Qt. IF intel lied in their presentation I will howl like a banshee.

 

[aigomorla]

I give you guys the X79.

I DONT LIKE IT.

Having the cpu sandwitched between RAM.. MEH.
(X79 is suposed to be quad channel also, so all ram slots = populated.)

I think im gonna go dual socket on this one guys.

Giggy:

Credit goes to VR Zone:
http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-x79--asrock-x79-extreme4-exposed/12436.html

 

[Nemesis 1]

I give you guys the X79.

I DONT LIKE IT.

Having the cpu sandwitched between RAM.. MEH.
(Z79 is suposed to be quad channel also, so all ram slots = populated.)

I think im gonna go dual socket on this one guys.

Giggy:

Credit goes to VR Zone:
http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-x79--asrock-x79-extreme4-exposed/12436.html

You should visit ATs front page . He has alot of these boards to look at . Many don't like that board for the same reason but guess what not all boards are the same . I like the style you showed as it gets the traces are = in length . Than you add in IB-e and its 50% less power draw it all becomes mute , But they have M/B s the way you like them. Which dual socket board ya thinking of the one with 2 differant sockets.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I found the PDF (also have a server one) on the site "jsbenterprizes.com"...they had a section dedicated to Intel roadmaps (they are marketing company), but the site doesn't have a direct link to them on their page anymore. If you google "jsbenterprises intel ww03", you will find the full pdfs for both server and client from January 2011.

I did as you said and googled "jsbenterprises intel ww03". The only thing there was this post you made

 

[Arachnotronic]

jsbenterprizes.com/media/INTEL1.pdf

jsbenterprizes.com/media/Intel_WW3_2011.pdf

 

[Edrick]

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/30/intels-ivy-bridge-coming-q1-2012-growing-festive-moss-while-yo/

Premium Performance must be Intel speak for Enthusiast. SB-E is geared more toward Extreme - which IMO is mostly for e-peen here. Not many people need an LGA2011 platform. They could get along just fine with an OC'ed 2600K, then jump to IB if more e-peen is desired.

So by your theory, anyone with a X58 currently is only for e-peen? Interesting. But no matter what term you apply to it, the Quad SB-E is going to beat the 2600K, and therefore we will have a new performance benchmark to compare with.

 

[AdamK47]

The only X79 motherboard with the best layout for me is the X79A-GD80. It's the only one that I see that will let me run triple SLI GTX 580s and a Xonar Essence STX (PCI-E 1X) sound card.

 

[AdamK47]

On these forums, SB-E will take priority in most performance discussions once released. I am not saying it will replace lga1155, but it will be the new standard for comparisions, especially here. My point is that to the people who upgrade from x58 to x79, the IB release becomes less relevant. But the people who want the IGP and like lower power systems, then IB remains relevant. But you can bet the top of the line BD cpus will stop being compared to the 2600 at that point.




Every Intel slide (roadmap) I have seen does not show the 2600 as enthusiast. It is a replacement for the i7 860 which was not an enthusiast class chip. The i7 900 series was their enthusiast class lineup, which is being replaced by SB-E.

Not on these forums. Over the past few years on Anandtech there has been a gradual decline in the extreme performance crowd. Once x79/SB-E is released people will still be talking about socket 1155. Have you seen the number of threads on these forums talking about socket 2011? Yeah, that's right, none.

 

[pantsaregood]

So by your theory, anyone with a X58 currently is only for e-peen? Interesting. But no matter what term you apply to it, the Quad SB-E is going to beat the 2600K, and therefore we will have a new performance benchmark to compare with.

Was 1366 really that much faster than 1156? I'm pretty sure the extra bandwidth and QPI interface didn't really do much for it in the end.

 

[Edrick]

Once x79/SB-E is released people will still be talking about socket 1155. Have you seen the number of threads on these forums talking about socket 2011? Yeah, that's right, none.

Yes, there have been some. And there will be more as we get closer to launch. And sure, people will still be talking about lga1155 for awhile as well, never said they wouldn't. My main point was once SB-E is released, then people can compare top of the line AMD to the top of the line Intel, because that is not the case now.

 

[bridito]

Thank you for your clarification on BD, Edrick.

Say what quad core SB-e = $400 dolllars highly unlikely. highest would be $350 but thats a bit high considering the 2600k has unlock and an IGP . Likely priced the same as 2600k just on a better M/B Look were its placed on the slide

SB-E Quad at $350 sounds like a very good deal. Do you think that the lower of the two Hexs would come in around $600?

 

[Edrick]

Was 1366 really that much faster than 1156? I'm pretty sure the extra bandwidth and QPI interface didn't really do much for it in the end.

At first it was only the extra PCIe bandwidth that mattered most (for SLI). Then the 32nm 6 cores were released and then it easily was a better platform than 1156. Sure the triple channel memory was a very small real world performance gain and the QPI only helped dual socket systems. But it had other features which some people liked or needed.

Socket 2011 is going to have more cores than 1155, more L3 cache, PCIe 3.0 (twice as many lanes), quad channel memory. Even if the CPUs run at the same speed, the advantage still goes to lga2011. And yes, I know for a lot of people the gains would be very minor and not worth the money, but for some, it is worth it.

 

[Nemesis 1]

jsbenterprizes.com/media/INTEL1.pdf

jsbenterprizes.com/media/Intel_WW3_2011.pdf

OK that works copied thanks much.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Now I see why the rumors for a delay are out there . Pick a date and we cann't prove it one way or the other . I liked the enhanced AVX part . To me that means AVX512, Now its a waiting game

 

[Nemesis 1]

Was 1366 really that much faster than 1156? I'm pretty sure the extra bandwidth and QPI interface didn't really do much for it in the end.

Well than I sugjest you look at servers to see if the extra did anything its server first enthusiast second .

 

[Arachnotronic]

No problem!