Rumor: Intel to delay releasing Ivy Bridge

[Nemesis 1]

Ya me and JF went threw this once befor . I was insisting second half of 2011. Do you have a link or for that matter does anyone have a link to amd saying 2nd qt. 2011

 

[AtenRa]

Just because Intel had the SATA problem and they lost 1-2 months with SB, doesn't mean they will postpone the launch of the IB because of that.

 

[Mopetar]

I don't get it, who really cares (beyond investors) whether IB is coming in Feb or Apr?

Fanboys, obviously.

 

[Mopetar]

Yes But your speaking of mans laws . I don't abide by such.

Certainly not those involving grammar, at least.

 

[skipsneeky2]

If BD ends up being any good i might skip IB,not sure yet.

While my i7 950 is still fast,with that 2600k besting even a 980x in anything but heavily threaded apps, im hoping Bd can deliver some competition to the 2600k,cause i hate marginal upgrades

perhaps if it isn't i will find a replacement for this crappy motherboard and clock the i7 950 skyhigh to hold me over till IB comes out.

Just like all of you,i hate waiting too.

 

[drizek]

Same with all this hullabaloo over a supposed delay to Sept for BD. Is it really the end of the world if it comes to pass?

Yes.

I'm thinking about building 3 systems right now. I've already built one sandy bridge one but I wanted to wait for bulldozer for these three. If BD is delayed(or slow), at least one, probably 2 and maybe all 3 will go Z68 instead.

 

[Soleron]

Ya me and JF went threw this once befor . I was insisting second half of 2011. Do you have a link or for that matter does anyone have a link to amd saying 2nd qt. 2011

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External.File?item=UGFyZW50SUQ9Njk3NDJ8Q2hpbGRJRD0tMXxUeXBlPTM=&t=1

“Zambezi”
Market: Desktop
What is it? four-, six-, or eight-core 32-nm AM3 socket desktop processor based on
the “Bulldozer” processor architecture for the enthusiast market.
Planned for introduction: 1H 2011

Linked from their official Analyst Day 2010 website.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Thank you . So I can expect possiable demo this week. Great

 

[Makaveli]

If BD ends up being any good i might skip IB,not sure yet.

While my i7 950 is still fast,with that 2600k besting even a 980x in anything but heavily threaded apps, im hoping Bd can deliver some competition to the 2600k,cause i hate marginal upgrades

perhaps if it isn't i will find a replacement for this crappy motherboard and clock the i7 950 skyhigh to hold me over till IB comes out.

Just like all of you,i hate waiting too.

i'm also waiting to see what IB has to offer but I honestly think I maybe able to get by with just GPU's upgrades for the next little while.

 

[skipsneeky2]

i'm also waiting to see what IB has to offer but I honestly think I maybe able to get by with just GPU's upgrades for the next little while.

Think as long as BF3 isn't as cpu dependent as BC2 i'll be dead set on keeping my 950.

But i do wanna replace this crappy motherboard.

 

[Rifter]

It doesnt make sense for intel to do this unless they have BD performance data now and they know SB can compete or beat BD. So they are just going to run with SB to maxamize profits, why knock down your own current performance leader if you dont have to. I know this has already been mentioned in this thread but its the only thing that makes sense.

 

[RU482]

I wonder if this delay has anything to do with their "across the board" new focus on being low power

 

[skipsneeky2]

I wonder if this delay has anything to do with their "across the board" new focus on being low power

Could be i wouldn't mind the next cpu going in here to have alot less power draw.

2600k is a green powerhouse really would love replacing this 950 with something like it.

By the time Ivy Bridge comes out,the 900 series could be the next pentium d of quad cores .

 

[Nemesis 1]

Buy the Msi Z68 M/B or one like it thats is PCI-E 3 ready if you buy SB. IB may prove to be way greener.

 

[Arachnotronic]

IB was never scheduled for Q1 on the official roadmaps I've seen. It's always been H1 2012.

 

[Idontcare]

I wonder if this delay has anything to do with their "across the board" new focus on being low power

Given the inherent defectivity reduction issues that 3-dimensional small structures such as the "fins" in their finfets pose, along with the severe sensitivity to CD control (and wet cleans induced Si loss), I would not be surprised at all if the reason for the node cadence being 2.1yrs instead of 2.0yrs is simply a matter of getting the probe yields to their desired levels before pushing the button on mass production in the fab.

The difficulty of "cleaning" small linewidth structures has always been present, the gates themselves in planar CMOS are 3-dimensional after all, but you don't have to deal with the issues of defects getting "boxed in" as is the case with multiple gates and fins.

This makes getting to entitlement D0 all the more critical for enabling entitlement yields at 22nm.

 

[bridito]

Hello.

I'd appreciate it if someone could supply some information, based of course on the most recent "reliable rumors" as they affect Sandy Bridge E and Ivy Bridge specifically for a single personal workstation build.

1) Sandy E LGA 2011 X79 platform is due out by the end of this year. Ivy is due out sometime early next year. Am I correct in the assumption that Sandy E is a high end platform while the first Ivys will be a lower end?

2) Therefore, is it "likely" that the bottom end Sandy E Quad will have overall performance better than the highest end Ivy (at initial release anyway)?

3) With the engineering questions surrounding the Trigate, would it be safer to stick to Sandy E at least until the technology is proven in mass production?

4) With the fact that Sandy E will not be requiring registered RAM is there any advantage to going with a consumer X79 vs. a single socket server LGA 2011?

Thank you.

 

[Edrick]

SB-E is going to be released in Q4 2011. This will make most people forget about the LGA1155 platform.

IB-E most likely will be released in Q3/Q4 of 2012. So the delay to the "mainstream" IB chips would not affect anyone with the SB-E (LGA2011) platform anyways.

People are still comparing the 8 core DB (enthusiast) to the it 2600K (mainstream). This will all change in 3-4 months. Then the IB release in April becomes less significant.

 

[bridito]

Thank you for the prompt reply. I have to replace my system no later than Spring 2012, so that timeframe would place me outside the IB-E release. Given that I would have a budget of around $750 for CPU & motherboard and I'm looking for the best performance for Autodesk 3D Studio Max 2011 & similar image generation & manipulation software (as well as extremely large Word & Excel files), would I be better off going SB-E than LGA 1155 IB?

 

[Arachnotronic]

Here's Intel's desktop road map from January 2011:

http://imageshack.us/f/811/intelroadmapdesky.png/

 

[Arachnotronic]

Thank you for the prompt reply. I have to replace my system no later than Spring 2012, so that timeframe would place me outside the IB-E release. Given that I would have a budget of around $750 for CPU & motherboard and I'm looking for the best performance for Autodesk 3D Studio Max 2011 & similar image generation & manipulation software (as well as extremely large Word & Excel files), would I be better off going SB-E than LGA 1155 IB?

SNB-E will likely be extremely expensive. Quad core SNB-E will likely be $400, hex cores will be >= $600.

If I were you, I'd buy an LGA 1155 + 2600K today and be done with it!

 

[bridito]

Thanks for the image link. From those roadmaps it seems evident that the 1H 2012 IBs will be in the range of today's i7 2600Ks while the SB-Es will be in the much higher end. At the "rumored" prices the SB-E Quad would fit perfectly within a $750 spend with motherboard, and I could certainly stretch my budget to accommodate an SB-E Hex at around $600 plus another $250 or so for a motherboard. My primary preference for the LGA 2011 platform is that it can accommodate eight memory slots. That's another reason that I was wondering whether I should opt for X79 or Patsburg, as all the pre-launch X79 LGA 2011 motherboards I've seen so far have 4 memory slots. My current Core i7 940 often soaks up my full 12 GB RAM when I am working on huge projects and although I could easily replace the 2 GB modules with 4GB, I'd rather have a greater capacity for future RAM-hungry applications. I certainly don't want to default down to fewer memory slots than I currently have. That's why I'd like my next system to be as close to state of the art as possible for at least a couple of years. I can certainly see using a full 32 GB RAM (or more) by this time in 2013.

 

[Patrick Wolf]

SB-E is going to be released in Q4 2011. This will make most people forget about the LGA1155 platform..

No it won't because SB-E (LGA2011) isn't a replacement for 1155. I imagine if IB is delayed it's because once it's released SB-E will become less relevant. And who's to say "IB-E" will even be on LGA2011, or even exist for that matter.

IB-E most likely will be released in Q3/Q4 of 2012. So the delay to the "mainstream" IB chips would not affect anyone with the SB-E (LGA2011) platform anyways.

People are still comparing the 8 core BD (enthusiast) to the it 2600K (mainstream). This will all change in 3-4 months. Then the IB release in April becomes less significant.

Forget about performance categorizing, it's mostly just a marketing tool. Even though the 2500 and 2600 are neck & neck in most benches, Intel lists the 2500 as mainstream and 2600 as enthusiast.

 

[Edrick]

No it won't because SB-E (LGA2011) isn't a replacement for 1155. I imagine if IB is delayed it's because once it's released SB-E will become less relevant. And who's to say "IB-E" will even be on LGA2011, or even exist for that matter.

On these forums, SB-E will take priority in most performance discussions once released. I am not saying it will replace lga1155, but it will be the new standard for comparisions, especially here. My point is that to the people who upgrade from x58 to x79, the IB release becomes less relevant. But the people who want the IGP and like lower power systems, then IB remains relevant. But you can bet the top of the line BD cpus will stop being compared to the 2600 at that point.

Forget about performance categorizing, it's mostly just a marketing tool. Even though the 2500 and 2600 are neck & neck in most benches, Intel lists the 2500 as mainstream and 2600 as enthusiast.

Every Intel slide (roadmap) I have seen does not show the 2600 as enthusiast. It is a replacement for the i7 860 which was not an enthusiast class chip. The i7 900 series was their enthusiast class lineup, which is being replaced by SB-E.

 

[bridito]

I apologize for my ignorance. Which one is the "BD CPU"?