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randomrogue

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Well, yes about the Queen.

While the race would have been run differently without the EC, the very narrrow margins still showed how close it was. With both sides going all out in places like Florida, Ohio and Virginia the margins of victory were razor thin.

Once again I think this is wrong. It wasn't close. Lets be slightly realistic for a moment. Romney didn't win a single swing state. He lost by millions of votes in the popular vote and he got spanked in the EC. This is taking into account the absolutely ginormous leads he had in the south where he picked up most of his votes. Romney got beat soundly.

He wasn't going to win.

He has been a filer candidate this whole time. The Republicans don't have a strong candidate to put up against Obama and even if they did they would be far better off waiting 4 years rather than risk him or her losing against an incumbent.
 

peonyu

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Well, yes about the Queen.

While the race would have been run differently without the EC, the very narrrow margins still showed how close it was. With both sides going all out in places like Florida, Ohio and Virginia the margins of victory were razor thin.


It was close but it was the voters who chose not to vote that determined the election, in 04 Bush had 63 million votes to Kerry's 59 million votes. This election we had 6 million less people vote [57 million for Romney and 59 million for Obama], its safe to say that Obama's voters turned out whereas alot of Republicans were either turned off by Romney and chose not to vote at all or chose to vote for the "other parties" [the other four we never ever hear of].
 

randomrogue

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There is probably a few million votes out there to be added to the final tally. California for example is only at 69% in and then you have the overseas ballots.
 

Orignal Earl

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Matt1970

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303-206 is close apparently. Haha. Poor conservatives are trying to grasp at any they could just to satisfy some faux sense of victory.

You can thank the electoral college for that. A 59 vs 57 million votes translates to 303-206. They are really representing the people.
 

emperus

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Um, no. 100% of Florida now reporting, its an Obama win.

It is at 100% but still hasn't been called. I think they have provisional ballots and such to go through. All I am saying is that Obama has 29 (FL) EV he can still pickup to add to his 303 total.
 

emperus

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You can thank the electoral college for that. A 59 vs 57 million votes translates to 303-206. They are really representing the people.

That's how we elect Presidents. He won the popular vote and the electoral vote. What more do u want him to do?
 

Charles Kozierok

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You can thank the electoral college for that. A 59 vs 57 million votes translates to 303-206. They are really representing the people.

If the election had been run based on straight popular vote, Obama would have won by a lot more.

You're sour graping. It's transparent.
 

Pneumothorax

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Romney lost because he's rich and flip-flopped. Same thing happened to Kerry.

Let's get honey boo boo's 'dad' to run for the repub ticket next time. He's poor and dumb, just like the vast majority of America. He'll win by a landslide.
 

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It was close but it was the voters who chose not to vote that determined the election, in 04 Bush had 63 million votes to Kerry's 59 million votes. This election we had 6 million less people vote [57 million for Romney and 59 million for Obama], its safe to say that Obama's voters turned out whereas alot of Republicans were either turned off by Romney and chose not to vote at all or chose to vote for the "other parties" [the other four we never ever hear of].

IMO the lower turnout is actually the voting numbers returning to where they were before the computer aided politicking.

In the 1990's some large mail order companies ceo's approached the Republican party and told them they had very interesting information on people that before the computer was unknown. In fact, they could largely identify what party and what issues many people were sided with. For the first time individuals were targeted. And they were targeted in a way to motivate them to vote. So in the 1990's people started getting individual mailings saying so and so wanted to take away your guns, or so and so wants make abortion legal, or so and so will raise your taxes. This motivated people on a single issue to come out and vote.

It was what gave the Republicans the House in the 1990's. By 2000 it was used to elect Bush.

What was really happening was the Republicans had substantially grown their party by bringing in "new" voters who were stay at home Republicans.

By 2004 this tactic reached its peak when Republicans went to the polls believing Saddam had attacked us on 9-11

What has happened since 2008 is that on a Presidential level the Dems have finally started to catch up with the Republicans. However, the Republicans still lead them on a local, House of Representitives level where a single issue may be all anyone knows of thier rep.

So, now the Dems turnout and the Republican turnout is returning to the normal, or pre1990's levels insofar as the relationship between them.
 

hal2kilo

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Because Republicans believe their beliefs trump demographics.
 
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Charles Kozierok

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Care to explain that?

The election was run based on maximizing turnout in swing states. Huge segments of the population that vote for Obama were basically ignored, including the largest state in the country.

There's no way to know for sure what would have happened in a straight EV vote, but I think Obama would have done better.

Either way -- sour grapes. Man up.
 

emperus

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Recount the votes. Romney might still have a chance with it being such a close race.

I wonder what the probability of about 3 or 4 states having all statistical errors in their vote counting all in Romney's favor. I think it may be probable but probably close to 0.
 
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nehalem256

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Ahaha. Supporting Planned Parenthood is forced slavery? Bahahaha. Would you happen to be the crazy old lady in this video?

http://youtu.be/nY0M7IdNl7U

slave?

now what are you on about? please stick to one batshit talking point at a time.

Being forced to support other people is slavery.

Either women are men's equal and capable of taking care of themselves or they are not.

Liberals insist that they are, but then demand that men pay for women's health care. That doesn't sound to me like liberals really think women are equal.
 

IGBT

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you can't beat a socialist santa claus. we are at a point in time where too many people voted to keep their santa mail box money rather then get a job. So now we enter the obama disaster part II.
 

sigurros81

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you can't beat a socialist santa claus. we are at a point in time where too many people voted to keep their santa mail box money rather then get a job. So now we enter the obama disaster part II.

Shut the fuck up already.
 

jackstar7

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Actually that was democrats. They stated the defunding planned parenthood, which as you point out affects only some women, was a "war on women"(implicitly all women).

Democrats are the ones saying women are helpless and need the government to care for them.

And then get their panties in a knot when they get called on their misogyny and hypocrisy.

Playing into it to try and make a point does not serve your goals. You look obtuse and sexist. Lose-lose.
 

jackstar7

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you can't beat a socialist santa claus. we are at a point in time where too many people voted to keep their santa mail box money rather then get a job. So now we enter the obama disaster part II.

Wasn't Bush2 the one that sent out checks? Pretty sure that's what happened...