Romanian hacker Guccifer: I hacked Clinton's server, 'it was easy'

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You want to know how we pay for it. I am asking how we already pay for it.

Stop paying a vastly greater amount of money for something else and you pay for it.

Wow, you should be a drumpf cabinet appointee, your vague answers smack of drumpf's inability to concisely answer a straightforward question. :thumbsup:

 

[LegendKiller]

Wow, you should be a drumpf cabinet appointee, your vague answers smack of drumpf's inability to concisely answer a straightforward question. :thumbsup:

It isn't a vague answer and you know it. It is a simple answer. If we pay let's say, 50bn a year for everything related to illegals but only pay 25bn for a wall and 2.5bn ongoing maintenance, then it is a great deal isn't it? What is the roi on that?

Libtards run around screaming "the cost! The cost!" Hysterically while ignoring the cost of their inaction, acceptance, and payment.

So you tell me, what is the cost of your actions (doing nothing, letting it continue) and then we will move to how much it costs to do something. If the costs of doing nothing is greater than doing something, then we will do something.

 

[LegendKiller]

To be fair...
This hacker could probably have hacked other Secretary of State's (or other public officials) private servers, as well as government maintained servers for those public officials.


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Low hanging fruit.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

It isn't a vague answer and you know it. It is a simple answer. If we pay let's say, 50bn a year for everything related to illegals but only pay 25bn for a wall and 2.5bn ongoing maintenance, then it is a great deal isn't it? What is the roi on that?

I can make up numbers too!
I say we spend $4.42 on illegals, but pay 3 trillion on a wall. what's the roi on that?

 

[LegendKiller]

I can make up numbers too!
I say we spend $4.42 on illegals, but pay 3 trillion on a wall. what's the roi on that?

Lol, I provided an example. You won't provide your number because you know it is far higher than my number.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Lol, I provided an example. You won't provide your number because you know it is far higher than my number.

nah, it's because you're a raging moron. Get back to my original question and respond with an answer showing your work. I'll wait. Feel free to reply with any other duhversion, however, that will just further point out what a pandering fool you are.

Here you go, now this is not a question about the cost of illegals, just the question of how financially viable it is to physically create and support a border wall between Mexico and the US

Still waiting to see how we can afford a wall on the US/Mexico border. And again, please show your work, let's just say it's going to cost $18B instead of the high mark of $25B (not including upkeep and personnel)

And please tell me why it's more important than updating our current highway/rail system. (which would provide 1000's of jobs if it was ever done)

 

[Londo_Jowo]

It's very possible he hacked into Hillary's email server. He had already hacked in Sidney Blumenthal's email account and distributed memos that he had sent to Hillary.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/sidney-blumenthal/hacker-distributes-memos-784091

Armed with confidential memos to Hillary Clinton that were stolen from the e-mail account of a former White House aide, a hacker has distributed some of the documents to a wide array of congressional aides, political figures, and journalists worldwide.

 

[LegendKiller]

http://www.heritage.org/research/re...ful-immigrants-and-amnesty-to-the-us-taxpayer

Let's say illegals cost half of what they say there and there are only 5mm of them. That means that illegals cost us taxpayers about 35bn a year.

We make up the cost of the wall in 9 months once they are gone.

Or as I said before, far better to fine the shit out of employers and eliminate benefits. They will leave voluntarily.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's very possible he hacked into Hillary's email server. He had already hacked in Sidney Blumenthal's email account and distributed memos that he had sent to Hillary.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/sidney-blumenthal/hacker-distributes-memos-784091

So what?

It's "very possible" that he could have hacked an account on any server.

Your point is what, exactly?

 

[LegendKiller]

So what?

It's "very possible" that he could have hacked an account on any server.

Your point is what, exactly?

Lol

Fuck it. Why make them work for it. 100% open email system! We don't need security!

 

[Jhhnn]

Lol

Fuck it. Why make them work for it. 100% open email system! We don't need security!

I'd ask you the same question but it's clear you have no point.

 

[LegendKiller]

I'd ask you the same question but it's clear you have no point.

Yeah, I do have a point. You are justifying no security by saying security *may* be circumvented. Do you have a password on your email address?

 

[Meghan54]

http://www.heritage.org/research/re...ful-immigrants-and-amnesty-to-the-us-taxpayer

Let's say illegals cost half of what they say there and there are only 5mm of them. That means that illegals cost us taxpayers about 35bn a year.

We make up the cost of the wall in 9 months once they are gone.

Or as I said before, far better to fine the shit out of employers and eliminate benefits. They will leave voluntarily.

Actually, they were leaving voluntarily during 2008-2009 because new jobs were essentially non-existent in the U.S. at that time.

And since illegals come to this country for jobs, wouldn't it make more sense to invest the "wall money" into the countries that have the most illegals that enter this country? Sorta like Israel's $3-$6B yearly subsidy the U.S. gives them, but with a purpose.....like stimulating their economies so they stay home vs. trying to get to the U.S. for the low level jobs here. If we can afford billions per year building and maintaining a useless Maginot Line wall, wouldn't the money be better spent at the source of the problem instead of using the money as a band-aid solution that'll prove useless in the long run?

 

[bshole]

So what?

It's "very possible" that he could have hacked an account on any server.

Your point is what, exactly?

I don't believe that. Can you justify that statement?

 

[thraashman]

Actually, they were leaving voluntarily during 2008-2009 because new jobs were essentially non-existent in the U.S. at that time.

And since illegals come to this country for jobs, wouldn't it make more sense to invest the "wall money" into the countries that have the most illegals that enter this country? Sorta like Israel's $3-$6B yearly subsidy the U.S. gives them, but with a purpose.....like stimulating their economies so they stay home vs. trying to get to the U.S. for the low level jobs here. If we can afford billions per year building and maintaining a useless Maginot Line wall, wouldn't the money be better spent at the source of the problem instead of using the money as a band-aid solution that'll prove useless in the long run?

Again, this solution doesn't discriminate against Hispanics, and that's kinda the whole point here. Don't offer solutions that use logic and treat Hispanics and other races as people, it's not what Trump supporters are looking for. If you suggested we bomb Mexico, I'm sure they'd be up for it.

 

[ivwshane]

The guy didn't "hack" shit! Guessing people passwords to gain access to their email is not a hack. There is a reason the guy targets famous or well known people, he can get basic information about them easily from the internet. Security questions like, "what's your mother's maiden name" become trivial. Its also highly doubtful he hacked into Clinton's email because unlike his other "hacks" he has nothing to die for it which isn't his M.O.

 

[LegendKiller]

Actually, they were leaving voluntarily during 2008-2009 because new jobs were essentially non-existent in the U.S. at that time.

And since illegals come to this country for jobs, wouldn't it make more sense to invest the "wall money" into the countries that have the most illegals that enter this country? Sorta like Israel's $3-$6B yearly subsidy the U.S. gives them, but with a purpose.....like stimulating their economies so they stay home vs. trying to get to the U.S. for the low level jobs here. If we can afford billions per year building and maintaining a useless Maginot Line wall, wouldn't the money be better spent at the source of the problem instead of using the money as a band-aid solution that'll prove useless in the long run?

Lol, gotta love it. Let's pay them not to invade our country.

 

[nickqt]

The guy didn't "hack" shit! Guessing people passwords to gain access to their email is not a hack. There is a reason the guy targets famous or well known people, he can get basic information about them easily from the internet. Security questions like, "what's your mother's maiden name" become trivial. Its also highly doubtful he hacked into Clinton's email because unlike his other "hacks" he has nothing to die for it which isn't his M.O.

Yeah, just read about him.

He didn't "hack" anything. He guessed security question answers.

And he's also a fucking lunatic.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ush-paintings-reportedly-arrested-in-romania/

 

[Jhhnn]

I don't believe that. Can you justify that statement?

Easily-

http://www.salon.com/2013/09/02/no_password_is_safe_from_new_breed_of_cracking_software_partner/

 

[LegendKiller]

Easily-

http://www.salon.com/2013/09/02/no_password_is_safe_from_new_breed_of_cracking_software_partner/

So you don't have a door lock?

 

[Jhhnn]

So you don't have a door lock?

And you're still stuck on stupid. Donald does that to some people. Scrambles their brains with his incredible line of bullshit.

 

[Hugo Drax]

I call bullshit. Show me proof or shut up. When is he going to show proof that he hacked into her servers?

 

[nickqt]

I call bullshit. Show me proof or shut up. When is he going to show proof that he hacked into her servers?

I'm not quite sure how much I have to post this link in this thread.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ush-paintings-reportedly-arrested-in-romania/

He didn't "hack" anyone's account. He guessed security question answers.

He didn't "hack" HRC's email account, he guessed security question answers to Sidney Blumenthal's email account, and read HRC emails to Blumenthal.

The guy making the claims also insists that the world elite literally belong to the Illuminati and New World Order.

 

[LegendKiller]

And you're still stuck on stupid. Donald does that to some people. Scrambles their brains with his incredible line of bullshit.

lol - more liberal smugness. You guys think you're the only smart ones on the planet.

Guess what, I know a lot of people that are far smarter than you, make a shit-ton more money than you, and are voting trump.

HillBilly is corrupt and hollow and I will enjoy seeing Trump take her down like he has every one of his other opponents. I hope you move to Canada after that, GTFO.

 

[fskimospy]

lol - more liberal smugness. You guys think you're the only smart ones on the planet.

Guess what, I know a lot of people that are far smarter than you, make a shit-ton more money than you, and are voting trump.

HillBilly is corrupt and hollow and I will enjoy seeing Trump take her down like he has every one of his other opponents. I hope you move to Canada after that, GTFO.

If you're so much smarter than we are why is it that you can't seem to compete on some pretty basic policy debates?