Romanian hacker Guccifer: I hacked Clinton's server, 'it was easy'

[soundforbjt]

What Sanders supporters are you talking about?

I'm guessing he means the "Bernie Bros". The ones who concern troll.

 

[nickqt]

Ah, yes.

Nothing like a bunch of conservatives secretly shitting themselves about HRC, latching onto even more bullshit designed to get them frothing.

The Romanian "hacker" social engineer "hacked" passwords by guessing answers to security questions.

He "hacked" into Colin Powell's email, and got HRC's sent emails by "hacking" into Sidney Blumenthal's email account.

The guy also believes that the world elite are part of the Illuminati and New World Order.

This is going to be WhiteWater, Vincent Foster, and Benghazi!, times 1,000,000!!!!!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ush-paintings-reportedly-arrested-in-romania/

Christ almighty are conservatives fucking chumps.

Go vote for Trump, chumps. He needs a bunch of low-energy losers to laugh at while he cons you.

 

[compuwiz1]

There could be ramifications, if true, to the point where Clinton may not have proper security clearance to read classified information in the future. In that case, if it's that serious, she shouldn't be potus and should probably be residing in a federal prison.

 

[fskimospy]

This sounds like another 'Hillary to be charged within 60 days' story. Red meat for the true believers. Speedy is on quite a tear these days though, huh? You would think he would be getting tired of people making fun of him but I guess not.

Speaking of presidential candidates being deposed I'm interested to see Trump be deposed in the fraud trial related to his scam 'university'.

 

[compuwiz1]

This sounds like another 'Hillary to be charged within 60 days' story. Red meat for the true believers. Speedy is on quite a tear these days though, huh? You would think he would be getting tired of people making fun of him but I guess not.

Speaking of presidential candidates being deposed I'm interested to see Trump be deposed in the fraud trial related to his scam 'university'.

Hillary's = criminal investigation
We have a presidential candidate under investigation by the FBI, even though the beast wants your gullible little soul to believe it's just a security review. They don't do security reviews. If the FBI is involved, it's an investigation into possible criminal activity. I suppose you also think the FBI is working for the republicans.

Trump's = civil matter

 

[fskimospy]

Hillary's = criminal investigation
We have a presidential candidate under investigation by the FBI, even though the beast wants your gullible little soul to believe it's just a security review. They don't do security reviews. If the FBI is involved, it's an investigation into possible criminal activity. I suppose you also think the FBI is working for the republicans.

Trump's = civil matter

Trump = actual trial for fraud.

Let me know when there's an actual charge or trial for Clinton.

How do you feel about Trump being involved in multiple fraud lawsuits? Remember, fraud basically means 'you lied to me and stole my money'. Does that make you wonder what else Trump is lying about?

 

[compuwiz1]

Trump = actual trial for fraud.

Let me know when there's an actual charge or trial for Clinton.

How do you feel about Trump being involved in multiple fraud lawsuits? Remember, fraud basically means 'you lied to me and stole my money'. Does that make you wonder what else Trump is lying about?

Civil cases, not criminal. If you run 500+ businesses, you cannot be everywhere at all times. Who knows what happened, but you do have employees and they can slip up. In the past, these things have turned out to be small numbers of disgruntled people, who probably didn't understand the terms. Look back at that idiot model, who recently tried to sue him and the case was thrown out. All knives will come out at these convenient times, when someone doesn't like a candidate and has an agenda. The timing always coincides with a bullshit accusation. And, is Trump perfect? Hell no. He's got an ego the size of the Grand Canyon, but he also has a way of getting things done.

 

[fskimospy]

Civil cases, not criminal. If you run 500+ businesses, you cannot be everywhere at all times. Who knows what happened, but you do have employees and they can slip up. In the past, these things have turned out to be small numbers of disgruntled people, who probably didn't understand the terms. Look back at that idiot model, who recently tried to sue him and the case was thrown out. All knives will come out at these convenient times, when someone doesn't like a candidate and has an agenda. The timing always coincides with a bullshit accusation. And, is Trump perfect? Hell no. He's got an ego the size of the Grand Canyon, but he also has a way of getting things done.

So you're saying that Trump is being sued for fraud by the state of New York and as part of a lawsuit representing 5,000 people because some employee screwed up when he wasn't around?

Seriously?

 

[boomerang]

Must. Defend. Hillary.

 

[compuwiz1]

So you're saying that Trump is being sued for fraud by the state of New York and as part of a lawsuit representing 5,000 people because some employee screwed up when he wasn't around?

Seriously?

At the roots of it, there were a couple plaintiffs. A big city lawyer got hold of it and turned it into a class of 5k people. You know what lawyers do. I'm not prepared to pass judgement on this before it all shakes out in court, but nobody is going to jail or prison over it. That much I can tell you, as it's a civil trial, not a criminal one. They're suing the corporation, not the individual. But, you know what? You can't ever find any positives, if all you're attracted to are the negative aspects. I'm not buying that Trump's agenda was to go screw people out of their money. My cousin's wife works for his company, as well as a personal friend. Both are Latina and have no bad things to say about him. He treats them very well.

 

[fskimospy]

At the roots of it, there were a couple plaintiffs. A big city lawyer got hold of it and turned it into a class of 5k people. You know what lawyers do. I'm not prepared to pass judgement on this before it all shakes out in court, but nobody is going to jail or prison over it. That much I can tell you, as it's a civil trial, not a criminal one. They're suing the corporation, not the individual. But, you know what? You can't ever find any positives, if all you're attracted to are the negative aspects. I'm not buying that Trump's agenda was to go screw people out of their money. My cousin's wife works for his company, as well as a personal friend. Both are Latina and have no bad things to say about him. He treats them very well.

The state of New York is suing him as well, so the excuse that some lawyer got ahold of it doesn't really hold up. There are numerous factual indications of serious fraud in relation to Trump University. You can look at the claims they made yourself and see that lots of them are obvious lies. Maybe Trump didn't set out to defraud anyone, but in that case he was managing the business so negligently that he enabled fraud to happen. That's not really any better.

Also, him employing a few Hispanic people doesn't make him any less of a racist.

 

[SP33Demon]

eski in full out defense of his fraudulent candidate. Only one is being investigated by the FBI, and it ain't Trump. Has a presidential candidate ever been potentially charged during an election? This is why Bernie is the answer, not this woman.

 

[LegendKiller]

The state of New York is suing him as well, so the excuse that some lawyer got ahold of it doesn't really hold up. There are numerous factual indications of serious fraud in relation to Trump University. You can look at the claims they made yourself and see that lots of them are obvious lies. Maybe Trump didn't set out to defraud anyone, but in that case he was managing the business so negligently that he enabled fraud to happen. That's not really any better.

Also, him employing a few Hispanic people doesn't make him any less of a racist.

So what is the quota you need to hit for Liberals to accept that you aren't racist just because you want to secure the borders? Because liberals demand "equal" treatment for all.

Tell me, what is the policy for me being able to just walk into your place? If you don't let me in, is that racist?

Naturally I assume that your doors are unlocked and you have advertised that, all are free to come and go, at any time, at your expense. Do you feed, clothe, and educate them? If not, why? Are you racist?

 

[SP33Demon]

So what is the quota you need to hit for Liberals to accept that you aren't racist just because you want to secure the borders? Because liberals demand "equal" treatment for all.

Tell me, what is the policy for me being able to just walk into your place? If you don't let me in, is that racist?

Liberals won't practice open borders at his home, only online messageboards. That's what liberals who desire liberalcred™ do, they cry racism while living in all-white neighborhoods. The sad irony is that Trump has actually done more for hispanics by providing them with a job and a means to support themselves than liberalcred™ seekers like the libs in this thread.

 

[fskimospy]

eski in full out defense of his fraudulent candidate. Only one is being investigated by the FBI, and it ain't Trump. Has a presidential candidate ever been potentially charged during an election? This is why Bernie is the answer, not this woman.

You are so incredibly transparent. Nice try talking about a fraudulent candidate when your candidate is literally being sued for massive fraud.

How does it feel to be dumb enough to be conned by someone who is literally being sued for conning other people?

 

[fskimospy]

So what is the quota you need to hit for Liberals to accept that you aren't racist just because you want to secure the borders? Because liberals demand "equal" treatment for all.

Tell me, what is the policy for me being able to just walk into your place? If you don't let me in, is that racist?

Naturally I assume that your doors are unlocked and you have advertised that, all are free to come and go, at any time, at your expense. Do you feed, clothe, and educate them? If not, why? Are you racist?

National borders and house borders aren't remotely the same thing. How would you not know this?

Trump isn't a racist for wanting secure borders. His border policies are stupid because they don't add up fiscally and involve fanciful ideas of how diplomacy works but that is just evidence for his incompetence and we already knew he was incompetent. He is a racist because of all the insanely racist things he has said.

 

[LegendKiller]

National borders and house borders aren't remotely the same thing. How would you not know this?

Trump isn't a racist for wanting secure borders. His border policies are stupid because they don't add up fiscally and involve fanciful ideas of how diplomacy works but that is just evidence for his incompetence and we already knew he was incompetent. He is a racist because of all the insanely racist things he has said.

I agree that it isn't a perfect comparison, but many aspects are the same, foremost among those being able to let in thosr you want to let in, being able to vet them, being able to remove them and keep them out, being able to keep criminals out, and not draining your own resources in order to support those you don't really want in, especially if you already have people you need to take care of first, your own family.

Your family's safety, economic security, and wellbeing trumps any imaginary social wellbeing that applies to strangers. Especially when getting that aspect wrong has a lower probability but most likely has a much higher severity. This only increases with the inability to vet those strangers.

Hence unlocked doors not being that poor of a comparison. This country is our house. We have the right and obligation to the rest of our family to minimize risk. If that means locking the door, then we should do it.

Thosr who advocate the opposite should remove their locks and advertise free movement for all. See if they like having strangers roam.

Kate steinle was our family and our unlocked door policy let a a murderer in and we don't even give a fuck. In fact, he was deported 5 fucking times and your open door policy let him back in and San Frans sanctuary city gave him shelter.

This is why the comparisons are valid. You won't admit it because the logic is inescapable and your inability to deal with it is insanity.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Did you miss this part?



or this

You go to hell. You go to hell and you die.

He said he did it. That should be enough for you dammit.

 

[fskimospy]

I agree that it isn't a perfect comparison, but many aspects are the same, foremost among those being able to let in thosr you want to let in, being able to vet them, being able to remove them and keep them out, being able to keep criminals out, and not draining your own resources in order to support those you don't really want in, especially if you already have people you need to take care of first, your own family.

Your family's safety, economic security, and wellbeing trumps any imaginary social wellbeing that applies to strangers. Especially when getting that aspect wrong has a lower probability but most likely has a much higher severity. This only increases with the inability to vet those strangers.

Hence unlocked doors not being that poor of a comparison. This country is our house. We have the right and obligation to the rest of our family to minimize risk. If that means locking the door, then we should do it.

Thosr who advocate the opposite should remove their locks and advertise free movement for all. See if they like having strangers roam.

Locking the door to your house requires virtually no effort. Locking down the borders of our country to a similar extent carries enormous social and fiscal costs. Once again, they are not even remotely comparable. This is a stupid analogy.

Kate steinle was our family and our unlocked door policy let a a murderer in and we don't even give a fuck. In fact, he was deported 5 fucking times and your open door policy let him back in and San Frans sanctuary city gave him shelter.

This is why the comparisons are valid. You won't admit it because the logic is inescapable and your inability to deal with it is insanity.

Your logic is so inescapable that you were reduced to saying 'well it's not THAT bad of a comparison'. I won't 'admit' to it because it's a stupid comparison. Just like when people try to compare national budgets to household budgets comparing your house to a country is dumb, dumb, dumb.

 

[LegendKiller]

Locking the door to your house requires virtually no effort. Locking down the borders of our country to a similar extent carries enormous social and fiscal costs. Once again, they are not even remotely comparable. This is a stupid analogy.



Your logic is so inescapable that you were reduced to saying 'well it's not THAT bad of a comparison'. I won't 'admit' to it because it's a stupid comparison. Just like when people try to compare national budgets to household budgets comparing your house to a country is dumb, dumb, dumb.

It requires a sturdy door, a frame which to build it onto and a house attached to the frame as well as a nice lock and deadbolt. The relative cost of the door, and structure to your income and overall house cost is small. The same with locking the door on the border. 10bn is nothing relative to the crime, murders, rapes, drugs, social services, schooling...etc, associated with illegals. And it is nothing compared to the overall size of the us budget.


The concept is the same. Keep your family safe and vet those you want in.

But you don't give a fuck about that.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I totally hacked Sp33demon's server and found kiddie porn. Honest. Swear to god.

Hmmm the stuff I hax0red off speedy's system was mostly images and videos from furry conventions, never expected him to be dressed as an androgynous unicorn, but there you have it.

 

[fskimospy]

It requires a sturdy door, a frame which to build it onto and a house attached to the frame as well as a nice lock and deadbolt. The relative cost of the door, and structure to your income and overall house cost is small. The same with locking the door on the border. 10bn is nothing relative to the crime, murders, rapes, drugs, social services, schooling...etc, associated with illegals. And it is nothing compared to the overall size of the us budget.

The cost of the wall will be much, much higher than $10 billion and you aren't even counting in all the billions of dollars in labor costs for border patrol, the damage to our relationships with our southern neighbor, increased costs for goods in the US, decline in productivity, etc.

Not to mention that a wall like that probably wouldn't even be particularly effective, but again we've already covered how completely incompetent Trump is. Someday you're going to have to face the fact that this guy has literally no idea what he's doing.

The concept is the same. Keep your family safe and vet those you want in.

But you don't give a fuck about that.

The concept is the same in the same way that the concept of household debt and national debt is the same. They talk about a similar issue but are so completely different in practice that someone has to be a moron to compare the two.

 

[LegendKiller]

The cost of the wall will be much, much higher than $10 billion and you aren't even counting in all the billions of dollars in labor costs for border patrol, the damage to our relationships with our southern neighbor, increased costs for goods in the US, decline in productivity, etc.

Not to mention that a wall like that probably wouldn't even be particularly effective, but again we've already covered how completely incompetent Trump is. Someday you're going to have to face the fact that this guy has literally no idea what he's doing.



The concept is the same in the same way that the concept of household debt and national debt is the same. They talk about a similar issue but are so completely different in practice that someone has to be a moron to compare the two.

Even if it is 20bn, the damage that illegals do to the education system alone is huge. Not to mention crime.

Relationships? Who gives a fuck. Mexico is a cesspool. And they would like nothing better than to drag the us down there also.

The walls recently built in Europe proved effective. The wall in Israel has been highly successful. Saudi is building a wall also.

Even 30bn is nothing.

Now you are trying to create false equivalence by tying this to the debt discussion. Your only argument is cost, whereas debt has fundamental differences.

 

[fskimospy]

Even if it is 20bn, the damage that illegals do to the education system alone is huge. Not to mention crime.

Relationships? Who gives a fuck. Mexico is a cesspool. And they would like nothing better than to drag the us down there also.

The walls recently built in Europe proved effective. The wall in Israel has been highly successful. Saudi is building a wall also.

Even 30bn is nothing.

Now you are trying to create false equivalence by tying this to the debt discussion. Your only argument is cost, whereas debt has fundamental differences.

My only argument was definitely not cost, although you're definitely underselling it still at $30 billion. It will probably cost much more than that just to construct and then we will have huge perpetual upkeep fees.

My argument is that not only is a wall wasteful and counterproductive, there are fundamental differences between national borders and someone's house. There's no escaping that simple fact, which is why I'm confused that you keep trying to use it.

Also, the borders you are referring to are a tiny fraction of the size of the US/Mexico border. They are a bad comparison too. I wonder how long it would take for tunnels to be dug under our fancy new border wall? My guess is maybe a month or so. Think how stupid we will look then.

That's one other cost to Trump's candidacy that I think people too frequently overlook. Our country is now the laughingstock of the world for having a political party crazy enough to nominate someone this dumb.

 

[LegendKiller]

My only argument was definitely not cost, although you're definitely underselling it still at $30 billion. It will probably cost much more than that just to construct and then we will have huge perpetual upkeep fees.

My argument is that not only is a wall wasteful and counterproductive, there are fundamental differences between national borders and someone's house. There's no escaping that simple fact, which is why I'm confused that you keep trying to use it.

Also, the borders you are referring to are a tiny fraction of the size of the US/Mexico border. They are a bad comparison too. I wonder how long it would take for tunnels to be dug under our fancy new border wall? My guess is maybe a month or so. Think how stupid we will look then.

That's one other cost to Trump's candidacy that I think people too frequently overlook. Our country is now the laughingstock of the world for having a political party crazy enough to nominate someone this dumb.

There is no fucking difference in wanting to keep somebody out thst shouldn't be there unless invited. Sovereignty of the nation (or your house) is paramount.

Saudi is building 600+miles.

And what about the continued cost of doing nothing?

Ohh, I forgot, hillbilly is so fucking smart that her solution is status quo. Cuz you know, that's worked so well for us the last two decades.

Liberal smugness never fails. You guys think you have all of the answers even as you are proven wrong.