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pcgeek11

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It’s not illegal for people to leak draft SCOTUS opinions as far as I know.

I didn't mean to imply that it was illegal. Just that if they desire an answer they should get the FBI involved. It is illegal to lie to the FBI where you can lie to a scouts marshal.
 

fskimospy

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I didn't mean to imply that it was illegal. Just that if they desire an answer they should get the FBI involved. It is illegal to lie to the FBI where you can lie to a scouts marshal.
I think it’s a bad idea to have the FBI investigate things that aren’t illegal.
 

pcgeek11

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If it isn't illegal, isn't that just politicizing the FBI (as well as wasting their time)?


No, I think of it as restoring some faith back into the SCOTUS that has never had a leak before now. (that I know of)

The facts are not political they are just facts.
 
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SMOGZINN

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I didn't mean to imply that it was illegal. Just that if they desire an answer they should get the FBI involved. It is illegal to lie to the FBI where you can lie to a scouts marshal.
First off it is probably too late for that, just on a practical matter it becomes much harder to perform an investigation that focus strongly on interviews when there has already been one, it gives the subjects the information on what the likely questions will be and time to get their story straight. It is why police are never interviewed before they get to talk to their union rep.

Second, I'm not so sure that it would still be illegal to lie to the FBI if they are not doing an investigation of a crime. I think that a judge would rule that it could not be obstruction of justice when there is no expectation of a criminal prosecution.
 

HomerJS

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What good is an internal investigation if the 9 justices are not interviewed?

If SCOTUS is really concerned about the leaker they would ask DOJ to takeover.

Absent that they have given the express permission for future leaks
 
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Lanyap

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Found this in the comments section of an article I read recently. I thought it would fit in here. Apologies if it's been previously posted. It's a good refresher.

“Pro-lifers” don’t think about the lives of the mothers. Or orphans. Or foster children. Or the poor. Or the abused kids whose parents didn’t want them. They only care about the fetuses they didn’t help make, won’t help raise, or even think about once they’re born.

The same Republicans railing against abortion in the name of being “pro-life” oppose:
-A living wage
-Climate action
-Gun safety
-Mask mandates
-Elderly home-care
-Food stamps
-Universal health care
-Ending the death penalty

No the GOP is not pro-life
 

[DHT]Osiris

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What good is an internal investigation of the 9 justices are not interviewed?

If SCOTUS is really concerned about the leaker they would ask DOJ to takeover.

Absent that they have given the express permission for future leaks
I mean, if the author of the opinion is the leaker, aren't they just expressing their 1A rights? Can the govt prevent a SC justice from leaking their own opinion?
 

pcgeek11

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It wouldn't surprise me a bit if the leak was one of the Justices. And if so they are just protecting their own.

Regardless the leak had its desired effect and here we are. I just found it odd that with a very limited number of people that had access (I read it was about 87 people) they didn't get anywhere with the investigation.
 

hal2kilo

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What good is an internal investigation of the 9 justices are not interviewed?

If SCOTUS is really concerned about the leaker they would ask DOJ to takeover.

Absent that they have given the express permission for future leaks
There's that separation of powers bug a boo.
 

KMFJD

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fskimospy

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oh yeah, they're working on that one

And to be clear they judge shopped to get this same federal judge who has routinely and repeatedly made absolutely insane rulings that are eventually overturned. The odds of him ruling in favor of Republicans and issuing a national injunction are extremely high.

More judicial Calvinball incoming!
 

zinfamous

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No, I think of it as restoring some faith back into the SCOTUS that has never had a leak before now. (that I know of)

The facts are not political they are just facts.

This entire situation is specifically political. it is only political. This is by far the most political, anti-judicial SCOTUS in history.

Of course you must know these facts by now, yes?
 

zinfamous

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remember when these fucking ghouls tried to promise everyone that blocking abortion should be at the state level?

Yeah, no one believed them.

Republicans are the worst fucking humans that have ever lived. I don't understand why they hate humanity so fucking much. They will kill us all if we let them.
 

Zorba

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uclaLabrat

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I would fucking LOVE to see these cucks defang the FDA. Everyones drug supplies would go to shit, it wojld be a fucking nightmare and no one would vote repub for 100 years.

Except hundreds of thousands of people would die and dems would manage to look complicit somehow.
 
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Zorba

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I would fucking LOVE to see these cucks defang the FDA. Everyones drug supplies would go to shit, it wojld be a fucking nightmare and no one would vote repub for 100 years.

Except hundreds of thousands of people would die and dems would manage to look complicit somehow.
You really think that would be the straw that broke the camel's back? People didn't give a shit when trump played favorites with covid supplies, they aren't going to care about this.
 

Fenixgoon

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Found this in the comments section of an article I read recently. I thought it would fit in here. Apologies if it's been previously posted. It's a good refresher.
As George Carlin said....they are pro birth. Because if they were pro life, they'd be doing all those other things listed