Ridley Scott's "Prometheus"

[IHateMyJob2004]

Was I the only one walking out that said that hte "goo" meant that a small host(worm) made a small face hugger and a big host (that thing that came out via surgery) made a big face hugger?

Kinda goes against the Alien franchise but it went thoguht my head.

I think any sequels have promise. But I am starting to think that making a cohesive story arch will be tough.

 

[Magusigne]

Was I the only one walking out that said that hte "goo" meant that a small host(worm) made a small face hugger and a big host (that thing that came out via surgery) made a big face hugger?

Kinda goes against the Alien franchise but it went thoguht my head.

I think any sequels have promise. But I am starting to think that making a cohesive story arch will be tough.

The Movie has made quite a bit of money..130m production cost and has crossed 270m to date. Not too shabby.

I was thinking for the sequel if we save the whole "Looking for the engineer homeworld w/david" for another movie. In the latter movies "AvP" there is the Weyland-Yutani Corp.

The Viral video called "Quiet EyE" shows Noomi Raspace's character pleading her case via video phone to weyland to get him to fund her expedition. Guess what? The software that is being used to analyze her intent is made by "Yutani Corp".

My idea is that for the sequel, Yutani has obviously Rival interests with Weyland and set's out on a counter expedition to the LV-223. Obviously when they arrive there are still other Engineer vessels buried and/or the Proto-alien lurking around.

Would make for a decent story.

 

[Ichinisan]

The Movie has made quite a bit of money..130m production cost and has crossed 270m to date. Not too shabby.

I was thinking for the sequel if we save the whole "Looking for the engineer homeworld w/david" for another movie. In the latter movies "AvP" there is the Weyland-Yutani Corp.

The Viral video called "Quiet EyE" shows Noomi Raspace's character pleading her case via video phone to weyland to get him to fund her expedition. Guess what? The software that is being used to analyze her intent is made by "Yutani Corp".

My idea is that for the sequel, Yutani has obviously Rival interests with Weyland and set's out on a counter expedition to the LV-223. Obviously when they arrive there are still other Engineer vessels buried and/or the Proto-alien lurking around.

Would make for a decent story.

Weyland-Yutani was in Aliens (1986). In Alien (1979), the crew only refers to their employer as "the company," so the merger could have taken place beetween Prometheus and Alien.

 

[Magusigne]

Weyland-Yutani was in Aliens. In the first Alien, they only referred to their employer as "the company," so the merger could have taken place beetween Prometheus and Alien.

Even better. Your right about that. My initial idea could still easily stand then. Plus with Weyland and his daughter dead..corporate take-over would be easier.

 

[CZroe]

Even better. You're right about that. My initial idea could still easily stand then. Plus with Weyland and his daughter dead..corporate take-over would be easier.

Also, the company spent an enormous amount to fund the expedition and got no return, thus, they are more ripe for a take-over bid than ever.

 

[Ichinisan]

I've had this tab open for weeks and just started to read it:
Leaked Script

If my profession was "writer," I'd probably try to write more carefully than this guy.

The landscape is rugged, volcanic, baron, mountainous and Primordial. Violent wind storms rage through the scenery and the wind itself has a violent, angry and unforgiven sound. The large spacecraft hovers overhead. The flying saucer type craft is weird and Alien in design.

FATHER
Of course she is. Now Elizabeth when you get older your going to hear a lot of bad things about me but I want you to remember I did everything for you and you're future. I have to go now and we won't see each other for a while. But Mrs Bateman will take care of you while I'm away

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The landscape is rugged, volcanic, barren, mountainous and primordial. Violent wind storms rage through the scenery and the wind itself has a violent, angry and unforgiving sound. The large spacecraft hovers overhead. The flying saucer type craft is weird and alien in design.

FATHER
Of course she is. Now Elizabeth when you get older you're going to hear a lot of bad things about me but I want you to remember I did everything for you and your future. I have to go now and we won't see each other for a while. But Mrs Bateman will take care of you while I'm away

 

[The Boston Dangler]

I've had this tab open for weeks and just started to read it:
Leaked Script

If my profession was "writer," I'd probably try to write more carefully than this guy.

you realize that leaked script is way beyond the average american's reading level, right?

don't alienate your customers. nyuk nyuk

 

[dr150]

This POS movie will leave many to wonder if this is the beginning of Ridley Scott losing his edge and pulling a George Lucas.

 

[zinfamous]

I've had this tab open for weeks and just started to read it:
Leaked Script

If my profession was "writer," I'd probably try to write more carefully than this guy.

Fixed:

OMG typos!!!!!!!!


:|

 

[William Gaatjes]

I have finally seen the movie and think i understand what the goo plot hole is all about.

If you have not seen the movie yet, do not read this.

Spoiler

At the beginning, there is the scene where the engineer uses the goo to create life. But the (deliberate ?)plot hole here is also that that does not has to be the same black goo as seen later in the movie. Also, was the engineer acting on its own ? Was the planet not to be populated, was the engineer a rogue, acting on his own ? Because in the beginning there is life created with it on a given planet (Earth ?). On the other planet, there are thousands of canisters in the ship with goo. But clearly this goo does something completely different. It creates biological weapons. There was an experiment going on that clearly went wrong as can be seen with all the dead engineers. There might be different types of goo and this movie might as well be the start of a major alien franchise coming up. Different type of goo allow for different effects. Also , David might have been of with the translation...

The hundred percent match of engineer dna and human dna, i would not worry about to much. That plothole can be used in the sense that much more is going on but that the human dna analysis computer was not able to detect the differences. Similar as now a lot of dna is assumed junk dna. I doubt that. IMHO, i think life has an ingenious way to keep potentially dangerous dna separated to only be combined when needed.


The other plot hole is indeed that the woman can run and jump up after major surgery, a caesarean operation. She had some major (bath salt type ?)chemicals in that fancy syringe.

The last one is that the octopus alike face hugger has grown from the size of two fists to an animal the size of an elephant in less than 48 hours and has the strength to match its size.
Converting air is still something i have difficulty with.

 

[Baked]

This POS movie will leave many to wonder if this is the beginning of Ridley Scott losing his edge and pulling a George Lucas.

It's definitely not Scott, it's the cock sucker writer that fucked up the script. This movie could've been epic if the character development and story telling wasn't so weak. I like the special effects though.

 

[happysmiles]

It's definitely not Scott, it's the cock sucker writer that fucked up the script. This movie could've been epic if the character development and story telling wasn't so weak. I like the special effects though.

Ridley has been more hit and miss in these past years..
From what I've seen, it's definitely the writers that could of done better

 

[CZroe]

Spoiler

The last one is that the octopus alike face hugger has grown from the size of two fists to an animal the size of an elephant in less than 48 hours and has the strength to match its size.
Converting air is still something i have difficulty with.

Once again: Getting larger by converting air was something the Xenomorphs have always done, so it's an Alien-series problem and not a Prometheus problem. They don't "eat" people. They kill them and take them back to the nest to gestate their embryos inside. When the chest-burster emerges in the original Alien, it doesn't eat one single human or cat to get to the full adult size. I doubt the escape pod had that many rats or whatever on it.

 

[CZroe]

damn dp

 

[William Gaatjes]

Once again: Getting larger by converting air was something the Xenomorphs have always done, so it's an Alien-series problem and not a Prometheus problem. They don't "eat" people. They kill them and take them back to the nest to gestate their embryos inside. When the chest-burster emerges in the original Alien, it doesn't eat one single human or cat to get to the full adult size. I doubt the escape pod had that many rats or whatever on it.

I have borrowed the alien series from a friend on dvd. I am going to watch them all the upcoming weeks.
Where have you found such information about converting air by the way ?

Assuming they consume CO2, those aliens are then the perfect solution for our global carbon dioxide problem.

When thinking of fast growth, i would think they need a lot of resources. Knowing the composition of air, nitrogen comes to mind and not oxygen or carbon.
If they use nitrogen, i have a problem understanding with how those aliens are build mostly out of nitrogen. Although molecules based on nitrogen are tough in a chemical sense i have learned. It is possible. I do wonder how strong nitrogen based compounds can withstand acids...

 

[Ichinisan]

I have borrowed the alien series from a friend on dvd. I am going to watch them all the upcoming weeks.
Where have you found such information about converting air by the way ?

Assuming they consume CO2, those aliens are then the perfect solution for our global carbon dioxide problem.

When thinking of fast growth, i would think they need a lot of resources. Knowing the composition of air, nitrogen comes to mind and not oxygen or carbon.
If they use nitrogen, i have a problem understanding with how those aliens are build mostly out of nitrogen. Although molecules based on nitrogen are tough in a chemical sense i have learned. It is possible. I do wonder how strong nitrogen based compounds can withstand acids...

In the first movie, Alien, the creature grows larger and larger without eating anything. In the Director's Cut, you see that it was keeping the bodies alive and trapped in the wall to incubate more face huggers.

In Alien 3, it actually appears to be eating...but that movie doesn't count. Everything about that movie is just wrong.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

In the first movie, Alien, the creature grows larger and larger without eating anything. In the Director's Cut, you see that it was keeping the bodies alive and trapped in the wall to incubate more face huggers.

In Alien 3, it actually appears to be eating...but that movie doesn't count. Everything about that movie is just wrong.

right; for example; it should have been alien 2, being as how aliens was not alien 2.

 

[William Gaatjes]

In the first movie, Alien, the creature grows larger and larger without eating anything. In the Director's Cut, you see that it was keeping the bodies alive and trapped in the wall to incubate more face huggers.

In Alien 3, it actually appears to be eating...but that movie doesn't count. Everything about that movie is just wrong.

I am wondering about, that you do not see the creature actually grow. You just see snapshots and it has become larger. If that is the case, it makes sense that it can decompose any existing material. That corrosive acid it carries within, would then not be for defensive reasons although it does come in handy... That acid would really be used to breakdown any material in the vicinity to increase mass. It makes a lot more sense. I mean the creature is obviously engineered. The designer of the creature might as well have thought to reuse that acid for various reasons : Strategic applications as a means to defend or attack, creating a means to breakdown the environment for resources or just to be able to escape when trapped.

 

[ImpulsE69]

You guys are way overthinking it. If you hadn't ever seen the Alien movies prior to Prometheus, then I get why you're like "OMG how did it get so big?", however really? It's a fake space creature, that's part of why it's supposed to be scary, it does and can do things that you don't understand because it's alien to our way of thinking.

 

[William Gaatjes]

You guys are way overthinking it. If you hadn't ever seen the Alien movies prior to Prometheus, then I get why you're like "OMG how did it get so big?", however really? It's a fake space creature, that's part of why it's supposed to be scary, it does and can do things that you don't understand because it's alien to our way of thinking.

Do not think to much about it...
We enjoy over thinking about it, because it triggers our imagination as well our creativity to be able to solve this puzzle. That is all that it is, a common interest that has been turned into a puzzle because we are overly analytical by nature. Because it is our nature, we get our pleasure center in the brain to light up with endorphins when thinking about it...
We are all just like the scientists in the movies that would not run away when such a creature would appear in front of us. We would be to fascinated...

 

[glen]

I hope this movie can generate 1000 mostly negative posts.

 

[William Gaatjes]

I watched Alien (The directors cut), i have not seen the alien grow. It is born small, then a few scenes later it is the size of a man. No actual footage of seeing the alien growing.

Yay for debate !

 

[Number1]

I hope this movie can generate 1000 mostly negative posts.

Ne

 

[Number1]

I hope this movie can generate 1000 mostly negative posts.

ga

 

[Number1]

tive, there you go, a thousand post.