Ridley Scott's "Prometheus"

[Kev]

why would those 2 broads run in a line when they're try to escape a crashing circle ship that's rolling after them

 

[purbeast0]

finally just saw this. can someone do a recap of this 1 trillion post thread and explain why nerds hate it so much? I thought it was great

i agree. wife and i both enjoyed it a lot. was a little slow but kept my interest the whole time.

i will say though, at the end i looked at my wife and screamed 'WHY THE FUCK WONT THAT BITCH RUN TO THE SIDE?'

 

[PottedMeat]

saw some of the deleted scenes
-they should have kept the captain's evac story
-and kept the whole sequence with the engineer hunting shaw in the lifeboat

-there was a part explaining how the two guys got lost looking for the source of some molted skin, but i think there's more

they should have cut that pointless head resurrection scene

 

[clamum]

finally just saw this. can someone do a recap of this 1 trillion post thread and explain why nerds hate it so much? I thought it was great

Same here. I thought it was great; can't wait for it to come out on Blu-Ray.

 

[techs]

Lindelof's major weakness is his lack of adherence to canon.

Star Trek The Motion Picture violated canon, for example, by saying that going to warp drive within the solar system was dangerous and rarely done, when we know its routinely done in tos.
The Star Treks after the first movie reverted back to canon and that is why I think a lot people like them.

With the Star Trek reboot Lindelof had a field day disregaring canon. For instance warp ships with a single central nacelle for the drive.

So, here in Prometheus he is just being himself. Lindelof needs to work on applying canon instead of just giving us a scene or phrase or plot device that reminds us of the other movies in the series.

 

[SKORPI0]

why would those 2 broads run in a line when they're try to escape a crashing circle ship that's rolling after them

Should have run to the sides. But it's only a movie.

 

[UberNeuman]

I never got back to this thread - however, I'll say that this movie really pissed me off - as all it is, is a set-up for a sequel....

 

[BladeVenom]

Lindelof's major weakness is his lack of adherence to canon.

And that he sucks as a writer. He likes throwing out mysteries, but never has any good answers.

 

[Kev]

Lindelof's major weakness is his lack of adherence to canon.

Star Trek The Motion Picture violated canon, for example, by saying that going to warp drive within the solar system was dangerous and rarely done, when we know its routinely done in tos.
The Star Treks after the first movie reverted back to canon and that is why I think a lot people like them.

With the Star Trek reboot Lindelof had a field day disregaring canon. For instance warp ships with a single central nacelle for the drive.

So, here in Prometheus he is just being himself. Lindelof needs to work on applying canon instead of just giving us a scene or phrase or plot device that reminds us of the other movies in the series.

ok i have no idea about any of the star trek things you just said in this post. But... I do hate lindelof because of Lost, and I assume that everything he touches, he will ruin. I was surprised that I actually liked prometheus

 

[blankslate]

saw some of the deleted scenes

Where'd you see them is the DVD out yet?

 

[Drako]

finally just saw this. can someone do a recap of this 1 trillion post thread and explain why nerds hate it so much? I thought it was great

Birthing scene.

Plus pre and post birthing scene.

Simply ridiculous.

Plus all of the other ridiculously dumb plot points. They are too numerous to list here, but they are obvious to the most casual observer.

 

[UberNeuman]

Where'd you see them is the DVD out yet?

There's pictures of what's going into the DVD\Blu-ray - and I'd say one of the deleted scenes contains something more horrific than any of the alien/monsters than was in the film....

 

[blankslate]

With the Star Trek reboot Lindelof had a field day disregaring canon.

Actually he set it up so that the ToS, Next Gen, and the other series were untouched by this alternate universe storyline.

Which is what it is.

They apply a hypothetical affect of quantum theory in which at every decision point all possibilities are created in new universes where each possibility plays out.

If you consider Next Gen Cannon then in the Star Trek universe(s) this is possible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallels_%28Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation%29

When Spock and Nero where sucked back in time and emerged they created a new universe that branched off from the ToS timeline meaning that while Star Trek told its own story it specifically made sure to note in dialogue that the ToS series has not been erased and that it still happened.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMK0qLVt0UU

 

[Ichinisan]

Lindelof's major weakness is his lack of adherence to canon.

Star Trek The Motion Picture violated canon, for example, by saying that going to warp drive within the solar system was dangerous and rarely done, when we know its routinely done in tos.
The Star Treks after the first movie reverted back to canon and that is why I think a lot people like them.

With the Star Trek reboot Lindelof had a field day disregaring canon. For instance warp ships with a single central nacelle for the drive.

So, here in Prometheus he is just being himself. Lindelof needs to work on applying canon instead of just giving us a scene or phrase or plot device that reminds us of the other movies in the series.

Lindelof wasn't credited with writing anything for Star Trek 2009.

 

[CZroe]

Lindelof wasn't credited with writing anything for Star Trek 2009.

Also, one doesn't "write" starships with a single nacell. That stuff comes from production notes, set designers, visual coordinators, etc.

 

[clamum]

Wow some of the armchair nerd criticism here is hilarious. I guess I'm just surprised that so many people can't just enjoy a SCI-FI movie for what it's worth.

"Oh no not every single thing in this sci-fi movie makes complete sense!" Relax moar.w

 

[StrangerGuy]

i agree. wife and i both enjoyed it a lot. was a little slow but kept my interest the whole time.

i will say though, at the end i looked at my wife and screamed 'WHY THE FUCK WONT THAT BITCH RUN TO THE SIDE?'

It's because of the sheer amount of things that violate common sense in the movie and this is just from reading a review.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Wow some of the armchair nerd criticism here is hilarious. I guess I'm just surprised that so many people can't just enjoy a SCI-FI movie for what it's worth.

"Oh no not every single thing in this sci-fi movie makes complete sense!" Relax moar.w

Right, what crew with ANY sort of common sense will go on a multi-year space expedition without briefing or know each other before leaving Earth. That's a huge insult to intelligence right at the beginning.

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Finally watched this... Enjoyed it but I can see why people would be disappointed

It just feels very forgettable... The actors did their job, but the characters themselves are just so bland, I didnt give a damn what happened to them at any point... (what is the point of Charlize in this movie? I kept waiting for a twist, and then when she finally died to such a stupid scene... I had no words)

I cant really blame Ridley Scott though, I think its just... Its 2012, everything has been done so much, especially with this kind of movie... People would have shat themselves if this was released in the 80s, but nowadays its almost popcorn flick level, it just doesnt impress anymore

The weird thing is, I still find those early 80s horror movies a lot scarier than current ones... For example the ending scene in Terminator , where Arnold (in robot form) chases Sarah into the factory... I could barely watch that as a kid without having nightmares, and it still bothers me... Something about it is just creepy as hell and makes you go "OMG RUN"... You just get so attached to Kyle and Sarah throughout the movie, its really well done

I dont know, it might be that CGI has become "too much" nowadays, they need to go back and starting showing less, leaving things to imagination, like it used to be

 

[William Gaatjes]

Finally watched this... Enjoyed it but I can see why people would be disappointed

It just feels very forgettable... The actors did their job, but the characters themselves are just so bland, I didnt give a damn what happened to them at any point... (what is the point of Charlize in this movie? I kept waiting for a twist, and then when she finally died to such a stupid scene... I had no words)

I cant really blame Ridley Scott though, I think its just... Its 2012, everything has been done so much, especially with this kind of movie... People would have shat themselves if this was released in the 80s, but nowadays its almost popcorn flick level, it just doesnt impress anymore

The weird thing is, I still find those early 80s horror movies a lot scarier than current ones... For example the ending scene in Terminator , where Arnold (in robot form) chases Sarah into the factory... I could barely watch that as a kid without having nightmares, and it still bothers me... Something about it is just creepy as hell and makes you go "OMG RUN"... You just get so attached to Kyle and Sarah throughout the movie, its really well done

I dont know, it might be that CGI has become "too much" nowadays, they need to go back and starting showing less, leaving things to imagination, like it used to be

I agree with you. But it is not entirely the CGI. IMHO, the movies of today lack the right mood setting. Wrong choice of music, wrong following of
scenes to create that building up effect. The movie unborn for example had the perfect script. But apart from a few good scare scenes, it lacked indeed what you say, the convincing of the characters. I got the feeling the characters were chosen for their beauty, not their convincing acting skills...
And that these actors had a little to much pride in themselves. The most scary was the little boy with the mirror during the babysitting scene.

The movie mirrors, did not lack that convincing, Kiefer Sutherland played that part very well. All the characters did so up to the child actors. But the CGI at the end was horrible and destroyed the movie.

Same problem with the Excorcist "The beginning".
At the end, the make up and contact lenses were so obvious that the whole vibe of the movie got lost. Even though, the music and building up of the suspense in that movie gave me a feeling that i must be on guard.

For information about the movies :
Mirrors :
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0790686/
The exorcist, the beginning.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0204313/
The unborn.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1139668/


I should note, that a very good actor, took his own life in 2010 : Anthony Kamerling.
He played the part of the German officer in "The exorcist, the beginning".
And played in a lot of movies.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0436589/
For those interested, you may want to see this movie : The Little Blonde Dead

 

[PottedMeat]

Where'd you see them is the DVD out yet?

there's a 15 minute video floating about, looks like someone took it down from where i got it though.

http://screenrant.com/prometheus-deleted-scenes/

00:02:31:16 (ARRIVAL OF THE ENGINEERS) (DELETED SCENE)
00:00:58:05 (T’IS THE SEASON) (DELETED SCENE)
00:00:42:08 (OUR FIRST ALIEN) (DELETED SCENE)
00:00:42:14 (SKIN) (DELETED SCENE)
00:01:22:01 (WE’RE NOT ALONE ANYMORE) (DELETED SCENE)
00:02:57:01 (STRANGE BEDFELLOWS) (DELETED SCENE)
00:01:25:04 (HOLLOWAY HUNGOVER) (DELETED SCENE)
00:00:23:12 (DAVID’S OBJECTIVE) (DELETED SCENE)
00:03:27:07 (JANEK FILLS VICKERS IN) (DELETED SCENE)
00:03:40:12 (A KING HAS HIS REIGN) (DELETED SCENE)
00:02:01:24 (FITFIELD ATTACKS) (DELETED SCENE)
00:04:06:06 (THE ENGINEER SPEAKS) (DELETED SCENE)
00:05:30:04 (FINAL BATTLE) (DELETED SCENE)
00:05:05:19 (PARADISE) (DELETED SCENE)

ones in bold were in the file

 

[MTDEW]

there's a 15 minute video floating about, looks like someone took it down from where i got it though.

http://screenrant.com/prometheus-deleted-scenes/
00:00:42:14 (SKIN) (DELETED SCENE)
00:03:27:07 (JANEK FILLS VICKERS IN) (DELETED SCENE)
00:04:06:06 (THE ENGINEER SPEAKS) (DELETED SCENE)
00:05:30:04 (FINAL BATTLE) (DELETED SCENE)

ones in bold were in the file

Some more videos out there of more deleted scenes if you search enough.
I've seen the above and all the following.

00:00:58:05 (T’IS THE SEASON) (DELETED SCENE)
00:01:22:01 (WE’RE NOT ALONE ANYMORE) (DELETED SCENE)
00:02:57:01 (STRANGE BEDFELLOWS) (DELETED SCENE
00:01:25:04 (HOLLOWAY HUNGOVER) (DELETED SCENE)
00:00:23:12 (DAVID’S OBJECTIVE) (DELETED SCENE)
00:03:40:12 (A KING HAS HIS REIGN) (DELETED SCENE)

I haven't been able to find.
00:02:31:16 (ARRIVAL OF THE ENGINEERS) (DELETED SCENE)
00:00:42:08 (OUR FIRST ALIEN) (DELETED SCENE)
00:02:01:24 (FITFIELD ATTACKS) (DELETED SCENE)
00:05:05:19 (PARADISE) (DELETED SCENE)

I don't see me buying the BR when released as i didn't feel the film was good enough to warrant adding to my collection.
I'm sure all extra content will be "pop up" shortly after the BR release anyway.

 

[Kev]

what was the point of having guy pearce play weyland in ridiculous old man makeup? I thought they would show a younger version of him, but they didn't.

 

[Paratus]

Lindelof's major weakness is his lack of adherence to canon.

Star Trek The Motion Picture violated canon, for example, by saying that going to warp drive within the solar system was dangerous and rarely done, when we know its routinely done in tos.
The Star Treks after the first movie reverted back to canon and that is why I think a lot people like them.

With the Star Trek reboot Lindelof had a field day disregaring canon. For instance warp ships with a single central nacelle for the drive.

So, here in Prometheus he is just being himself. Lindelof needs to work on applying canon instead of just giving us a scene or phrase or plot device that reminds us of the other movies in the series.

One note on the single nacelle starship.

I actually found it refreshing. I spent many hours when I was younger playing FASA's Starship Tactical Combat Simulator. It was hex tile based role playing game played with starships.

It had all the TOS original starships, all the starships from the movies upto Star Trek III including the Excelsior. It also had several made up ships that had single nacelles. Each ship had its own tile and schematics with stats in the rule book.

So I liked it because I assumed the art department had actually done a lot of research into the original series.

 

[0roo0roo]

what was the point of having guy pearce play weyland in ridiculous old man makeup? I thought they would show a younger version of him, but they didn't.

yea that was a disappoint.

charlize go bye bye, no care about other girl