Ridley Scott's "Prometheus"

[hans030390]

Spoiler

They didn't know. He was learning all known languages so that he could understand the engineers language. David did make a comment about that when they asked him if he could understand their language. Though this brought up another thing to me, why wouldn't he just be programmed with all this knowledge from the start?

It's pretty typical to design AI so that they learn as they go. It's not really feasible to program everything in from the start in most cases. Granted, this is set in the future, so it's questionable.

 

[GTaudiophile]

http://www.criticswatch.com/reviews/spoony-vlog-6-8-12-prometheus

LOL!

I'm liking this.

 

[sigurros81]

http://www.criticswatch.com/reviews/spoony-vlog-6-8-12-prometheus

I saw the first 15 seconds and had to turn it off. Too much nerdrage and them trying too hard to sound funny.

 

[Lifted]

I liked it, I kindof wonder where they will take the story from here now.

Same writer as Lost, so it will be more of the "there's always a bigger fish" story line.

Space Jockey's are working for the bigger guys, who use the Space Jockey's as their worker bees going around the galaxy terraforming and seeding planets with life.

The plot could be interesting, but unfortunately the characters and script are pretty flat. No depth to the characters and no protagonist (Noomi Rapace? - she's no replacement for Sigourney Weaver) leaves little more than a bit of sci-fi talk and CGI to keep things interesting.

 

[Insomniator]

Is Prometheus a great movie? No. I'd consider it a good movie that I did enjoy watching. Although, it certainly felt like more of a borderline popcorn flick, which tends to be a negative attribute that people apply to movies.

Exactly. I didn't watch these 'epic' trailers and wait fucking two years to see a popcorn click that had no substance but tons of flash and graphics. Avatar took care of that for me.

At least Alien 1/2 had ATMOSPHERE going for them. Prometheus... I thought was going to make some fucking sense, have a real script, be a 'real' movie. Instead it reminds me more of like.. Final Destination than what I thought was supposed to be Sci-Fi classic.

The more I read about it the more I hate it. Fuck. It seems like movies these days are just focused on CGI and 3D than actually make a decent story.

 

[Triumph]

The plot could be interesting, but unfortunately the characters and script are pretty flat. No depth to the characters and no protagonist (Noomi Rapace? - she's no replacement for Sigourney Weaver) leaves little more than a bit of sci-fi talk and CGI to keep things interesting.

Let no man sully the name of Noomi Rapace.

 

[ImpulsE69]

You aren't going to please everyone. There are many people complaining that the beginning was slow and drug out. I personally liked the build up, however there was no real payoff for that build up. I enjoyed the film...but I think it's far from a sci-fi classic.

 

[glen]

AVP is probably a better film.

 

[Jadow]

Saw it, liked it. Was it epic awesome? No

Also, FU Carmike Cinemas!

Large popcorn + pop combo = $14

last year it was $9!

Won't be going back to Carmike

 

[Gigantopithecus]

...yeah. That can be correctly stated as a "100% match."

No, it can't. Theoretically not even identical twins are 100% genetically matched, though this has yet to be tested because of the cost and low value of confirming the theory.

Back to Prometheus, though, great to read that ~30 minutes will be in the director's cut DVD that weren't in the theatrical release. Blade Runner became a much better film after it hit DVD!

 

[Ichinisan]

No, it can't. Theoretically not even identical twins are 100% genetically matched, though this has yet to be tested because of the cost and low value of confirming the theory.

Back to Prometheus, though, great to read that ~30 minutes will be in the director's cut DVD that weren't in the theatrical release. Blade Runner became a much better film after it hit DVD!

As I understand it, the bulk of our DNA is non-relevant stuff. Some of it was injected by viruses and much of it isn't even human DNA. I assume that "100%" would refer only to specific genetic markers that exist only in humans.

 

[Aikouka]

AVP is probably a better film.

AVP2... that scene with the Predalien in the maternity ward is stuck in my mind forevers!

 

[KaOTiK]

AVP2... that scene with the Predalien in the maternity ward is stuck in my mind forevers!

My fav part of that movie

 

[Zeze]

Despite its shortcomings, I enjoyed it and had a good time. But I must mention few parts I had to say 'come on':

-So they take off that big ass helmet... so your hand is tied to lugging it around. But of course the helmets are magically gone after they take them off. Then come back again.

-You just had a C-section... with zero bleeding and haphazard suture job that keeps her going. At least give that surgery machine more complex/futuristic moves, so it's believable that she ran around everywhere without a problem. All the machine did was applying sterilizer, cut, then staple. The damn thing didn't even administer morphine. She had to do it herself. In the age of warp drives and android machines, you'd expect a more advanced machine.

-Today in 2012, it's disgusting how connected we are already. Again, in the age of warp drives and android machines, they still rely on convention communication devices & shitty webcam feeds with 240i resolution? I'd expect neural networking and optic nerve streaming.

 

[cubby1223]

I liked Forbes review. http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddi...ometheus-is-a-visually-stunning-epic-failure/

hahahaha!

Perfect summary of the movie in that review:

"When members of the science team are lost in a gigantic, danger-filled alien structure, the mission leaders all go have sex."

I have a high tolerance for bad movies, and can usually find ways to enjoy what many others find to be crap.

Not this movie.


When the advanced surgery machine is no more advanced than a toy crane machine... Whoops, alien slipped out, put in another quarter and try again

 

[Via]

I just read that Forbes review; Very well done.

Not enough reviews are taking the screenplay to task. It's simply unacceptable.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

 

[Chiropteran]

"When members of the science team are lost in a gigantic, danger-filled alien structure, the mission leaders all go have sex."

It's funny when you put it that way, but I thought it all made perfect sense. Look at it from the POV of the characters involved.

Spoiler

Vickers doesn't give a shit about anything. She is there because of her father, but her attitude from the start has made it clear that she expects nothing to happen, and even if something does happen she doesn't care.

The Captain, I got the impression of anyway, was kinda feeling the whole "not my job" vibe with the idiots who got lost in the cave. He told them to return, they didn't, he didn't really care anymore if they froze to death because he did what he could. Have sex, or sit around worrying about some idiots? Easy choice.

Despite its shortcomings, I enjoyed it and had a good time. But I must mention few parts I had to say 'come on':

-So they take off that big ass helmet... so your hand is tied to lugging it around. But of course the helmets are magically gone after they take them off. Then come back again.

-You just had a C-section... with zero bleeding and haphazard suture job that keeps her going. At least give that surgery machine more complex/futuristic moves, so it's believable that she ran around everywhere without a problem. All the machine did was applying sterilizer, cut, then staple. The damn thing didn't even administer morphine. She had to do it herself. In the age of warp drives and android machines, you'd expect a more advanced machine.

-Today in 2012, it's disgusting how connected we are already. Again, in the age of warp drives and android machines, they still rely on convention communication devices & shitty webcam feeds with 240i resolution? I'd expect neural networking and optic nerve streaming.

I didn't notice that about the helmets, sounds like a simple goof.

There was a brief talk about that machine early in the movie, about how old it was and Vickers was like "don't touch it, it's an antique". It wasn't supposed to be an example of the latest and greatest technology of the age.

This is a different planet. It doesn't have cell phone repeater towers setup. We are connected because of the infrastructure here, try going out into the desert and see how your cell phone works. It makes enough sense to me that they would limit the bandwidth usage of video and such to make sure there remained enough for communications.

 

[cubby1223]

It's funny when you put it that way, but I thought it all made perfect sense. Look at it from the POV of the characters involved.

Spoiler

Vickers doesn't give a shit about anything. She is there because of her father, but her attitude from the start has made it clear that she expects nothing to happen, and even if something does happen she doesn't care.

The Captain, I got the impression of anyway, was kinda feeling the whole "not my job" vibe with the idiots who got lost in the cave. He told them to return, they didn't, he didn't really care anymore if they froze to death because he did what he could. Have sex, or sit around worrying about some idiots? Easy choice.

Which made for a terrible movie that I will never think about again after today.

Very little about the movie made sense. Looking at it from the POV of the characters, none of the characters held any resemblance to what I would call reality.

After investigating a decapitated body, then finding a large pile of more dead bodies freaking them out, the crewmen when confronted with an unknown lifeform resembling a cobra snake, believe it to be a good idea to stick a finger in its mouth.


The movie tried to be a slapstick comedy and failed. Good sci-fi is based around reality. Good comedy is based around reality. Prometheus, I really honestly don't know what type of person would find this movie entertaining. The movie is one giant insult.

 

[sportage]

Charlize Theron is my new favorite actress. She's been around for a while and still looks as good as she did in Devils Advocate.
As far as Prometheus, fairly good film except the last 60 seconds was a letdown.
The last 3 minutes gave me hope for sequels heading into a new direction.
Then that very last 60 seconds and...really?...again? YAWN.
I think they have kicked that dead horse down the road about as far as it will go.

 

[Chiropteran]

Which made for a shitty movie that I will never think about again after today.

Very little about the movie made sense. Looking at it from the POV of the characters, none of the characters held any resemblance to what I would call reality.

I disagree. I find the films where everyone works together like a team with no sense of selfishness at all to be the farthest from reality, the good realistic movies are the ones where characters have independent motivations and incentives and they aren't necessarily all working together for the same thing. Conflict makes the story interesting.

But to each their own.

 

[SP33Demon]

I'll say it again, if you spend a ton of time trying to become emotionally vested with the characters, you will probably dislike this movie. Normally, I prefer an emotional attachment to characters, but I didn't really care with this movie. The movie was more like an amusement park ride. The cast was not much more than other attendees around you that provided some emotional ambiance.

Also, I never understood the fascination with Ripley. I've seen Alien and Aliens, and Weaver's character doesn't seem to be much better than Rapace's character. It's been awhile since I've seen Alien, but if I recall, they did spend a little more time having other characters interact with Ripley. However, I wouldn't consider this substantial enough to consider the characters that different.

Although, if you look at my previous posts, you'll see that I've made similar remarks as found in the review. I recall mentioning that Prometheus had some elements from the horror genre with how characters were more or less fodder for suspense/scares. Is this necessarily a bad thing? I think that depends on what you were expecting from the movie.

Is Prometheus a great movie? No. I'd consider it a good movie that I did enjoy watching. Although, it certainly felt like more of a borderline popcorn flick, which tends to be a negative attribute that people apply to movies.

The fact that this thread has almost 300 replies negates "popcorn flick" status. The only ones complaining are the ones who do not like to think properly. For example, optic nerve communication in 2093? WTF are you smoking? I think Transformers boom assplosion spoonfed plots have rotted out half of this forum's mindset.

 

[PottedMeat]

something i totally forgot about - why did they inject current into the space jockey head?



i'm very interested in what 30+ minutes does in explaining the crazy stuff the crew does.

 

[Saint Nick]

Watched the movie -- was hoping for more. Not really sure what to say. The movie leaves me confused and yearning for more details about the story line.

 

[Insomniator]

The fact that this thread has almost 300 replies negates "popcorn flick" status. The only ones complaining are the ones who do not like to think properly. For example, optic nerve communication in 2093? WTF are you smoking? I think Transformers boom assplosion spoonfed plots have rotted out half of this forum's mindset.

Are you serious? What should we have been thinking about while every decision made by each crew member was idiotic? EVEN if one understood the story fully without seeing any Scott interviews, the actual script and character development are a joke. People that don't think the movie was great have pointed out a thousand reasons for this opinion, while people saying this was a good/great/amazing/epic have nothing more to say other than the haters are 'dumb'.

Also I'm not sure how to depict technology in movies as it advances in real life, but really seeing low res blurry video feeds was laughable to me. Its 100 years from now, I didn't need to see optic nerve communication, but how about iphone level quality? If he is intent on creating such a believable world you need to have some level of uniformity. Having fucking holograms in the same movie as video cameras from my LG VX6000 is a joke to a lot of people. What if they were using cans with strings attached to communicate?

EDIT: this thread has 300 replies because the movie has been hyped for 2 years as a genre defining flick but it turns out it was only slightly better than Mission to Mars.