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Ridley Scott's "Prometheus"

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SKORPI0 said:
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Well you know who were the last ones to survive in these movies.
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They look like a bunch of pansie weenies in that pic. No wonder they got their asses kicked in Aliens (..well except for the ending of course). 😀
 
lol I don't know how this thread turned to THIS after 400 posts, but I watched the movie last night and loved it. very intense. Saw it in 3D IMAX, worth it (for me). 3D IMAX + HUD Cam = awesome.

Haven't seen all of Aliens, so now I need to go do that.
 
Ns1 said:
lol I don't know how this thread turned to THIS after 400 posts, but I watched the movie last night and loved it. very intense. Saw it in 3D IMAX, worth it (for me). 3D IMAX + HUD Cam = awesome.

Haven't seen all of Aliens, so now I need to go do that.
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You could only love this movie if you never saw alien/aliens and never saw the previews/history of prometheus calling it a genre defining masterpiece.
 
dr150 said:
They look like a bunch of pansie weenies in that pic. No wonder they got their asses kicked in Aliens (..well except for the ending of course). 😀
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What do you expect? They're headed up by a guy who dies in every movie he's in, they have the biggest douchenozzle weenie in the history of movies, their most badass member is the step-mom from Terminator 2, and they're bankrolled by Paul "what the fuck am I doing in an action movie" Reiser. If they didn't happen to bring the Gatekeeper with them, they would have been totally boned (and, let's face it, most of them were). Now, granted, if they'd brought Arnold, or even Jesse Ventura, along, the movie would've been over in the first 15 minutes and we wouldn't have gotten such gems as "They mostly come out at night.... mostly," so I think we won on that score. But seriously, has there ever been a less imposing commando unit ever assembled on film? Ripley's a total badass, but it looks less impressive when your basis for comparison is Michael Biehn and Bill Paxton.
 
Insomniator said:
You could only love this movie if you never saw alien/aliens and never saw the previews/history of prometheus calling it a genre defining masterpiece.
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true for me on all counts.

I had no idea about this movie until I saw the trailer before Avengers.
 
Insomniator said:
You could only love this movie if you never saw alien/aliens and never saw the previews/history of prometheus calling it a genre defining masterpiece.
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I think the issue with this movie was most people went into it thinking they were getting an Alien movie. I found myself looking in the background for Alien references and was a little disappointed by the lack of them, even though I knew it wasn’t supposed to be that attached to the series. As the genre defining masterpiece, I can kind of see it.. if you define the genre as 70s SciFi horror. It has all the same traits those movies had, and did that well. The problem being is the audience has grown up and we expect a lot more from a movie. The same choices that worked in the 70s don’t work at all here in the now. If this had been released in the 70s and even into the 80s it would have been beyond amazing. It’s kind of the same as if you believe that if Star Wars were released today it wouldn’t have been that well received.
 
Ichinisan said:
...and what about Moon? There were no un-answered questions in Moon as far as I'm concerned.
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Total Recall, mainly referring to the sequence with the "recall corp guy" who is trying to get Arnold to swallow the pill because the entire movie thus far is all a dream in his mind. At the end of the movie it's still not clear if it was all just a dream or if he is actually in the real world. I believe in the book it's made clear, but the movie leaves it unanswered.


Moon, I felt this was VERY similar to Prometheus' ending. Both movies have the main character flying away to visit his/her makers to get some answers to some obvious questions. Both movies have questionable small details with possible answers that are not handed to you by the movie. For example the assumption most viewers have about Moon is that clones are used to save money, but it's never really spelled out and some people might not agree. Why not use robots, why not just use a regular employee? Similarly, in Prometheus there is the question of why did the engineer try to kill all the humans. I think the simple answer is that when he went into hibernation the plan was to go to earth and wipe out the humans, and here they are now in his ship? Clearly they are the enemy and whatever happened to interrupt his mission he had to do what he could to complete it.



On the other hand, after seeing Prometheus my girlfriend really wanted to see Alien. We finally rented it on amazon video and watched it last night. I won't say I didn't like it, I did, but it was hard to watch in parts. The movie starts very slow and the audio production standards aren't anywhere close to modern movies, it was hard to understand some of the dialogue in noisy scenes. My girlfriend literally fell asleep during the early part of the movie before the Alien hatched, because it was all so slow. After the Alien hatched and is seen the second time, it was like deja vu from Prometheus- how did it grow so big? What was it eating?

All in all, it felt like the inferior movie, when compared with Prometheus. I think a lot of the posters here who hate Prometheus are just seeing Alien with rose colored glasses and can't see it for what it was. All movies have minor flaws, and sometimes not everything is spelled out, Prometheus is no different from Alien in this respect.


Insomniator said:
You could only love this movie if you never saw alien/aliens and never saw the previews/history of prometheus calling it a genre defining masterpiece.
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I feel like the reverse is true. It was very hard to watch Alien after seeing Prometheus.

edit: However, I do agree as far as previews. I avoid previews for any movie I plan to see, nothing good EVER comes from seeing previews, unless they convince you to see a movie you otherwise wouldn't even consider. Any preview calling any movie a masterpiece should be immediately disregarded. Does anyone take those statements seriously? I go into a movie expecting nothing more than some mild entertainment for 2 hours. If it ends up being better, it's a pleasant surprise.
 
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Chiropteran said:
My girlfriend literally fell asleep during the early part of the movie before the Alien hatched, because it was all so slow. After the Alien hatched and is seen the second time, it was like deja vu from Prometheus- how did it grow so big? What was it eating?
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The fecal matter from the cat, of course.

EVERYONE knows this!

😛
 
dr150 said:
The fecal matter from the cat, of course.

EVERYONE knows this!

😛
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Seriously though, don't you people watch movies about aliens? Aliens never have to eat to grow. (Species anyone?) They never actually show the xenomorphs eating, sure they kill with their mouth, but they never show them eating. They "kind of" show it in Alien 3, but I never got the impression that's what it was really doing.
 
The book "Alien" explained it pretty well - it was the first time the creature was exposed to such an oxygen-rich environment and that's what made it grow so rapidly.

I don't remember the exact details, but it was pretty clear.
 
KeithTalent said:
Hmm, yes, I had forgotten that one. I think he was ok in that.



How? People actually think he is good? I thought he was just tolerated because he's been in a lot of big movies. :hmm:

KT
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Take it you either didn't watch or didn't like Big Love, but he's been in a ton of movies and I'm a long time fan. To each their own.
 
KeithTalent said:
Paxton is shit. Can't think of a single thing I liked him in. "We're storm chasers, it's what we do!". D:

KT
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He's really good at playing unlikeable characters in awesome movies. Terminator, Aliens, True Lies, Tombstone, Apollo 13... Apparently he was in Stripes, Commando and Titanic as well, and even though I don't remember his roles, I'm assuming they were fairly whiney/douchey/douchewhiney. So, yeah, he plays a total dick in everything, but he does it so well. There's a talent there. Or maybe he's just a douche and he doesn't even realize he's being filmed, who knows?

Game over, man. Game over.
 
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