Rev. Al writes NFL to block Limbaugh team purchase

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: bfdd
Phokus, you realize no one here is debating the fact that people can speak out against him. They are debating the fact with you that the NFL can't take any sort of "moral high ground" against him because of their past actions, ie letting murders and rapists play in their league. If the other owners don't want him owning a team, then so be it. But to say it's because he's "controversial" is retarded.

it's not even about a 'moral high ground', it's about hurting the bottom line because, *GASP* some fans and a lot of players mind find him to be a bigoted piece of shit.

lol

this is NOT going to hurt the bottom line. IF having murders, rapist, dog fighting (and killing) didn't hurt them then this won't.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: marincounty

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Limbaugh sucks and it's none of Sharptons or anyone elses business if he buys a sports team.

Sure it is. Rev. Al is calling Rush Limbaugh a bigot who doesn't deserve to be an owner.
For once I agree with Rev. Al.

Actions have consequences. If the NFL selects Rush as an owner, don't be suprised by a huge boycott of the NFL. The NFL doesn't like controversy, so I expect that they will reject Rush as an owner-too much baggage.

Marge Schott.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

You're still arguing something you don't really care about, for nothing other than your personal hatred of "righties".

This really is a funny position for you :laugh:

Here we have sports teams who "the left" would probably say make too much money anyways with their multi-million dollar contracts for doing nothing than providing entertainment to idiots.

And here we have Limbaugh who, according to your own fears, will do two things if he gains ownership:

(1) reduce revenues across the league
(2) weaken the Rams, thereby strengthening all the other teams in comparison

So you get your way, less money thrown away at millionaire entertainers, and a stronger local team that you follow.


Oh no, but you hate Limbaugh and must oppose him at every step!!!! :laugh:

Actually, idiot, Limbaugh WOULD probably weaken the Rams and that would be a BAD thing for every other owner in the league considering NFL revenue sharing. Not only would the Rams alienate some fan members by Limbaugh's mere ownership, but because some players would refuse to sign with the Rams, they would be at a competitive disadvantage and their fan base would shrink even more because they'd be pissed the Rams suck ass.

That AND THE FACT that the NFL wants to expand their marketplace to OUTSIDE of the US, you really think it's a good idea to have an idiot Limbaugh as one of the owners?

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: bfdd
Phokus, you realize no one here is debating the fact that people can speak out against him. They are debating the fact with you that the NFL can't take any sort of "moral high ground" against him because of their past actions, ie letting murders and rapists play in their league. If the other owners don't want him owning a team, then so be it. But to say it's because he's "controversial" is retarded.

it's not even about a 'moral high ground', it's about hurting the bottom line because, *GASP* some fans and a lot of players mind find him to be a bigoted piece of shit.

lol

this is NOT going to hurt the bottom line. IF having murders, rapist, dog fighting (and killing) didn't hurt them then this won't.

Having a racist piece of shit own a team WILL hurt their bottom line, especially when trying to expand outside of the US.

At the very least, you can suspend/kick out players. What are you going to do with Limbaugh when he has another race baiting segment?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: bfdd
Phokus, you realize no one here is debating the fact that people can speak out against him. They are debating the fact with you that the NFL can't take any sort of "moral high ground" against him because of their past actions, ie letting murders and rapists play in their league. If the other owners don't want him owning a team, then so be it. But to say it's because he's "controversial" is retarded.

it's not even about a 'moral high ground', it's about hurting the bottom line because, *GASP* some fans and a lot of players mind find him to be a bigoted piece of shit.

lol

this is NOT going to hurt the bottom line. IF having murders, rapist, dog fighting (and killing) didn't hurt them then this won't.

Having a racist piece of shit own a team WILL hurt their bottom line, especially when trying to expand outside of the US.

At the very least, you can suspend/kick out players. What are you going to do with Limbaugh when he has another race baiting segment?

shrug i doubt the nfl will ose money off limbuagh owning a fraction of the rams.

the NFL is not going to expand out of the US as it is they are doing everything they can to keep the teams they have (but yes they want to but not going to happen for a while).

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: waggy

shrug i doubt the nfl will ose money off limbuagh owning a fraction of the rams.

the NFL is not going to expand out of the US as it is they are doing everything they can to keep the teams they have (but yes they want to but not going to happen for a while).

Not necessarily expand teams outside of the US (although there's talk about that), but they definitely want to expand interest in the current teams outside the US. Why do you think there's been all those commercials with players like Tony Gonzalez in Spanish and games in London.

edit: forgot there was a game in Mexico too

Also:

"The NFL is widely popular south of the border, with nearly one in five Mexicans claiming an interest in the league, according to USATODAY."

I'm sure limbaugh would be popular with hispanics

 

[Phokus]

Also: Ask Pacman Adam Jones how much the NFL will tolerate (and he wasn't even convicted of a crime... yet).

 

[BurnItDwn]

I think Limbaugh is a fvcking asshole and a scumbag. I also think he is not very intelligent. Now that you have some background on my opinion of the guy, here's my opinion on this issue. I don't really give a shit if he buys an NFL team or not. Also, I don't think I'd care if the league blocked him or not.

That said, if he does wind up buying them, then I'll surely root against the Rams every game....

That said, I think this whole thing is just a stunt to get attention and cause controversy. That's pretty much is what Rush is good at.

 

[herkulease]

the players are just saying that now. If Rush had tons of input on how much money is spent. They'd all happily play for the Rams if they threw them more guaranteed money than the next team. Very rarely will you find a player who will give hometown discounts or any of that sorts. they'll all claim its not about the money but its really all is. They'll go the worst team in the league as long as they got paid.

Oh and I can't wait till someone makes this connection.

Goodell is married to Jane Skinner. Jane Skinner works for Fox News. Fox News arm of GOP. Rush defacto face of GOP. Its all part of the plan to take over and destroy America.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: Phokus
Actually, idiot, Limbaugh WOULD probably weaken the Rams and that would be a BAD thing for every other owner in the league considering NFL revenue sharing. Not only would the Rams alienate some fan members by Limbaugh's mere ownership, but because some players would refuse to sign with the Rams, they would be at a competitive disadvantage and their fan base would shrink even more because they'd be pissed the Rams suck ass.

That AND THE FACT that the NFL wants to expand their marketplace to OUTSIDE of the US, you really think it's a good idea to have an idiot Limbaugh as one of the owners?

Actually I'll use the Schott example you brought up in your original post.

Sports fans care about one thing and one thing only, winning. Under Marge Schott, The Reds won the World Series in 1990 and revenues were high, domestically and internationally. After Marge Schott left ownership, the team has been dismal and revenues are far far less, they cannot fill the stands to save their sorry asses.

Barely an international sports fan will care if one part-owner out of 32 teams, in Midwest St. Louis, is a conservative talk-show host. :laugh:

You just hate Limbaugh because you just hate Limbaugh, and you're trying to project your opinion onto others. The Rams organization will look into all the candidates and choose a potential buyer based on (1) money, and (2) a plan to build a winning team. Then after than, the rest of the 31 owners will have to approve the sale based on their views if Limbaugh would help or hurt the league. It's their decision, and they will look at this rationally, not just based on the rantings of a few who just hate all things "right".

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: herkulease
the players are just saying that now. If Rush had tons of input on how much money is spent. They'd all happily play for the Rams if they threw them more guaranteed money than the next team. Very rarely will you find a player who will give hometown discounts or any of that sorts. they'll all claim its not about the money but its really all is. They'll go the worst team in the league as long as they got paid.

Oh and I can't wait till someone makes this connection.

Goodell is married to Jane Skinner. Jane Skinner works for Fox News. Fox News arm of GOP. Rush defacto face of GOP. Its all part of the plan to take over and destroy America.

Patriots players give hometown discounts (tom brady, the entire offensive line, troy brown, the linebackers, etc. etc.). Steelers players do to, off the top of my head.

I'm sure limbaugh would be able to have black players on his team, however, i'm also sure he'd have to pay a bigger premium over some of them.

 

[CLite]

If I was another owner I would push this hard and laugh my ass off at the sudden influx of FA's as players flee from the Rams. The fact is that Rush pushes a very bigoted view of black athletes , and I can understand if players don't want to be associated with such a bigoted owner. This would be comedic gold, as if the Rams weren't already a sad enough team.

edit : eh I fail at remembering the right bigoted host (ignore my previous comment)

 

[waggy]

whats funny is if this was anyone else but rush NOBODY WOULD GIVE A FUCK. it sure wouldnt be a post on P&N heh

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Phokus
Actually, idiot, Limbaugh WOULD probably weaken the Rams and that would be a BAD thing for every other owner in the league considering NFL revenue sharing. Not only would the Rams alienate some fan members by Limbaugh's mere ownership, but because some players would refuse to sign with the Rams, they would be at a competitive disadvantage and their fan base would shrink even more because they'd be pissed the Rams suck ass.

That AND THE FACT that the NFL wants to expand their marketplace to OUTSIDE of the US, you really think it's a good idea to have an idiot Limbaugh as one of the owners?

Actually I'll use the Schott example you brought up in your original post.

Sports fans care about one thing and one thing only, winning. Under Marge Schott, The Reds won the World Series in 1990 and revenues were high, domestically and internationally. After Marge Schott left ownership, the team has been dismal and revenues are far far less, they cannot fill the stands to save their sorry asses.

Barely an international sports fan will care if one part-owner out of 32 teams, in Midwest St. Louis, is a conservative talk-show host. :laugh:

You just hate Limbaugh because you just hate Limbaugh, and you're trying to project your opinion onto others. The Rams organization will look into all the candidates and choose a potential buyer based on (1) money, and (2) a plan to build a winning team. Then after than, the rest of the 31 owners will have to approve the sale based on their views if Limbaugh would help or hurt the league. It's their decision, and they will look at this rationally, not just based on the rantings of a few who just hate all things "right".

1) Baseball doesn't have revenue sharing like the NFL does

2) Schott was suspended several times.

3) Her partners planned ousting her and she became a minority owner

4) If you honestly believe some fans weren't alienated by her, you're an idiot. How do you know the reds wouldn't have brought in MORE revenue if not for her?

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Here is the bottom line, sports fans care about one thing, and one thing only:

Winning games

Very little else matters. Character only comes in to the discussion if the team loses games.

Not if the players aren't willing to play for a turd like Limbaugh.

Have you seen the Rams recently? I am not sure I would call what they do "play."

If the players bolt, it will be a public relations event someonwhere between a circus and a nightmare for the NFL. I hope they do it if Limbaugh is allowed to buy the team.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: CLite
If I was another owner I would push this hard and laugh my ass off at the sudden influx of FA's as players flee from the Rams. The fact is that Rush pushes a very bigoted view of black athletes , and I can understand if players don't want to be associated with such a bigoted owner. This would be comedic gold, as if the Rams weren't already a sad enough team.

edit : eh I fail at remembering the right bigoted host (ignore my previous comment)

No, this would actually hurt owners, because 80% of revenue is shared. Why would you want fans abandoning a team (even if they were division rivals)? If i were an owner, that's money out of my pocket.

Actually, ESPECIALLY if the other team is a divisional rival, you don't want the other team's fanbase to go down, because you share the gate money at least twice a season. Plus rivalries generate fan interest more

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: Phokus
I'm sure limbaugh would be able to have black players on his team, however, i'm also sure he'd have to pay a bigger premium over some of them.

:laugh:

I love this thread. Blacks apparently don't care much about racism & bigotry as long as money is involved

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: marincountyThe owners have to vote to approve the new ownership. If the new owners are going to create a distraction-and cost them money, it won't happen.

It would be hard to find a guy less-suited to be an NFL owner than Rush. Bigoted, loud-mouthed and prone to saying offensive things.

I don't see why they would want to risk people boycotting the NFL or otherwise having less enthusiasm for it.

The other issue is that Limbaugh strikes me as a guy who would be a meddler. That is to say, he wouldn't let the team's management and coach manage the team, rather he'd butt in and try to micromanage player personnel issues and the draft and whatnot when, like most fans, his knowledge of football probably isn't sophisticated enough for him to make those kinds of decisions. His ownership would probably condemn the Rams to becoming the next Detroit Lions.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Phokus
I'm sure limbaugh would be able to have black players on his team, however, i'm also sure he'd have to pay a bigger premium over some of them.

:laugh:

I love this thread. Blacks apparently don't care much about racism & bigotry as long as money is involved

Did i say ALL black players? The more offensive point is from you: that you would think all black players would move in lockstep.

Obviously some would refuse to play for limbaugh altogether (as evidenced in a couple of links)

 

[Lemon law]

We all know that Rush fancies himself as a football genius. The only thing possibly humorous about Rush owning the rams would be to see the Ram's rocket to last place in the NFL and stay there. And I really believe many players would refuse to play for him while
players on other teams will become extra special motivated to beat the Rams.

But on second thought, the NFL should just tell Rush NO and be done with it.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
We all know that Rush fancies himself as a football genius. The only thing possibly humorous about Rush owning the rams would be to see the Ram's rocket to last place in the NFL and stay there.

The way things are going for the Rams, they won't need Limbaugh's help to do that. In three weeks they'll get to play the Detroit Lions. I'm predicting a Lions victory. It can't get much worse than being beaten by the Lions. (Hello Redskins, LOL!)

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: Phokus
4) If you honestly believe some fans weren't alienated by her, you're an idiot. How do you know the reds wouldn't have brought in MORE revenue if not for her?

:laugh:

How do you know a different owner would have put in place the necessary pieces to win the 1990 World Series? As well as the other many winning years under her reign?

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Phokus
4) If you honestly believe some fans weren't alienated by her, you're an idiot. How do you know the reds wouldn't have brought in MORE revenue if not for her?

:laugh:

How do you know a different owner would have put in place the necessary pieces to win the 1990 World Series? As well as the other many winning years under her reign?

If that owner wasn't a racist piece of shit and made the exact same moves as marge schott, they'd have a larger fan base, you're an idiot if you can't see that.

The fact that the league suspended her several times and her partners wanted to oust her obviously says something about her affect on their business.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Phokus
4) If you honestly believe some fans weren't alienated by her, you're an idiot. How do you know the reds wouldn't have brought in MORE revenue if not for her?

:laugh:

How do you know a different owner would have put in place the necessary pieces to win the 1990 World Series? As well as the other many winning years under her reign?

If that owner wasn't a racist piece of shit and made the exact same moves as marge schott, they'd have a larger fan base, you're an idiot if you can't see that.

The fact that the league suspended her several times and her partners wanted to oust her obviously says something about her affect on their business.

And you're so dense that you still can't grasp the concept that different owners make different team moves. For better or worse, there is no way to know. But Schott did achieve the top prize, the World Series trophy, and brought in high revenues to the team. They ousted Schott, while the new owners have screwed up the on-field team and revenues dropped.

A team cannot have a publicly known Nazi sympathizer as their owner, but then again Limbaugh is no where near on that same level. Every potential owner has character flaws, and everyone has a different opinion on where the cutoff is of what is acceptable. And the Rams organization and the rest of the league owners, will make the decision on who has the best ratio of plans and character to improve the league.

And they absolutely will not need Phokus' input to make a proper decision

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: Ausm
Limbaugh is a racist but if he pays well (which I doubt) most players won't care.

I can asure you that is not the case.