Republicans in Arizona attempting mass voter fraud with the 2020 ballots.

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MrSquished

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While I love NYC too the politics here are super corrupt. It’s not as bad as Wisconsin Republicans destroying democracy but we are hardly a beacon of good governance.

Plenty of corruption and stupid policy around here for sure. But infinitely better than fascist unevolved GQP stuff though. And being surrounded by more people aware of these things, also infinitely better. I will enjoy the last years of democracy far better around here than in some backwards ass GQP state for sure.
 

VRAMdemon

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QAnon has decided that the Deep State is faking UFO sightings to distract the public from the AZ audit and as a prelude to a faked alien invasion and culling of the human race with Nazi energy weapons.


No comment yet from Ted “How do you do fellow humans, I also enjoy inserting animal flesh into my oral cavity and processing it into nutrients and waste matter” Cruz.?

Hey ... I could almost believe that all the QAnon bullshit about the stolen election is perpetrated by space aliens to distract us from their upcoming invasion.
 
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QAnon has decided that the Deep State is faking UFO sightings to distract the public from the AZ audit and as a prelude to a faked alien invasion and culling of the human race with Nazi energy weapons.


No comment yet from Ted “How do you do fellow humans, I also enjoy inserting animal flesh into my oral cavity and processing it into nutrients and waste matter” Cruz.?

Hey ... I could almost believe that all the QAnon bullshit about the stolen election is perpetrated by space aliens to distract us from their upcoming invasion.

Wow, finally something that has gotten conspiracy nuts to disbelieve UFO/alien conspiracy shit?

All the QAnoner people I know are bigtime alien conspiracy people so really curious how that's going down in their minds (but not curious enough to actually delve into the fissured anus that is online conspiracy crap. I'm sure someone will be along to make a third conspiracy that makes both work for them.
 
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hal2kilo

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QAnon has decided that the Deep State is faking UFO sightings to distract the public from the AZ audit and as a prelude to a faked alien invasion and culling of the human race with Nazi energy weapons.


No comment yet from Ted “How do you do fellow humans, I also enjoy inserting animal flesh into my oral cavity and processing it into nutrients and waste matter” Cruz.?

Hey ... I could almost believe that all the QAnon bullshit about the stolen election is perpetrated by space aliens to distract us from their upcoming invasion.
Where can I find a place to purchase the drugs they are on.
 
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cytg111

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Seems like a weakness, it means you could flood the Q zone with alien crap and dim out the signal to noise ratio
 

MtnMan

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QAnon has decided that the Deep State is faking UFO sightings to distract the public from the AZ audit and as a prelude to a faked alien invasion and culling of the human race with Nazi energy weapons.


No comment yet from Ted “How do you do fellow humans, I also enjoy inserting animal flesh into my oral cavity and processing it into nutrients and waste matter” Cruz.?

Hey ... I could almost believe that all the QAnon bullshit about the stolen election is perpetrated by space aliens to distract us from their upcoming invasion.
Wait... Nazi energy weapons? I thought it was Jewish space lasers... I'm confused.
 

sactoking

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I mean, the inverse is no more than 43% so the spread is at least 14% which isn't insignificant.
 

nickqt

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I mean, the inverse is no more than 43% so the spread is at least 14% which isn't insignificant.
43% of Americans are in favor of overturning elections when their fascist Leader doesn't win.

The 14% difference isn't spread out evenly over the 50 states, so it doesn't mean all that much when it comes time for the fascists to overturn the next election that they lose.
 

woolfe9998

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43% of Americans are in favor of overturning elections when their fascist Leader doesn't win.

The 14% difference isn't spread out evenly over the 50 states, so it doesn't mean all that much when it comes time for the fascists to overturn the next election that they lose.

No, it's 57%/33%/10% "no opinion." It's a 24 point difference.

You guys should take the time to read the actual polls.
 

nickqt

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No, it's 57%/33%/10% "no opinion." It's a 24 point difference.

You guys should take the time to read the actual polls.
Here, let me say it again, but with more words.

43% of Americans are in favor of overturning elections when their fascist Leader doesn't win, because for 10% who have "no opinion" on the matter, they aren't going to stand up against it when it happens.

Carry on.
 

woolfe9998

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Here, let me say it again, but with more words.

43% of Americans are in favor of overturning elections when their fascist Leader doesn't win, because for 10% who have "no opinion" on the matter, they aren't going to stand up against it when it happens.

Carry on.

Yeah, you know who answers "no opinion" to a question about whether the last election was rigged? People with no political opinions who do not vote in elections.

Among those who actually pay attention and vote, there is a 24% gap. I understand your reasoning here, but neither side can credibly add the apolitical to either their side or the other.
 

nickqt

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Yeah, you know who answers "no opinion" to a question about whether the last election was rigged? People with no political opinions who do not vote in elections.

Among those who actually pay attention and vote, there is a 24% gap.
So, in other words...

43% of Americans are in favor of overturning elections when their fascist Leader doesn't win.

But for people who pay attention and vote, only 33% of them are in favor of overturning elections when their fascist Leader doesn't win.

Got it. Carry on.
 

woolfe9998

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So, in other words...

43% of Americans are in favor of overturning elections when their fascist Leader doesn't win.

But for people who pay attention and vote, only 33% of them are in favor of overturning elections when their fascist Leader doesn't win.

Got it. Carry on.

No, your second sentence makes no sense at all. Not 43% support, 33% support. 10% have NO OPINION.

Seems like it really bothers you that we have a bunch of people who couldn't care less about politics, but that's how it is. They do not belong to either side because they literally have no opinion at all. Every country has plenty of them.
 

nickqt

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No, your second sentence makes no sense at all. Not 43% support, 33% support. 10% have NO OPINION.

Seems like it really bothers you that we have a bunch of people who couldn't care less about politics, but that's how it is. They do not belong to either side.
If 10% of people have "no opinion" about the end of democracy and fascist dictatorship, then they tacitly fucking support it, because having no opinion about something like that makes them just as culpable as the fascists doing the overthrowing of government.

John Stuart Mill put it this way:

“Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.”

It's a longer version of the "the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" quote from whom or whatever it gets attributed to.

So, you can parse and parcel out the 10% of Americans who will be good little fascists when the fascists take over government and stomp on democracy, but I sure as shit will not.

33% of Americans are salivating at the chance at overturning democracy so their Republican fascist Leader can round up internal enemies.
10% of Americans just don't give enough of a shit to care one way or the other that democracy is being targeted by fascist Republicans so that they can round up internal enemies.

So we'll just have to agree to disagree, because you think 10% of the population who doesn't give a shit won't just go along with it when it happens, whereas I'm going to go right on ahead and count them in on it, because they won't stand up against it when it matters, and will likely be in on it when it does.

I'll stand by my opinion that 43% of Americans are in favor of overturning elections when their fascist Leader doesn't win. 10% of them will just be more concerned about whether they're going to get credit for being on the "winning" side then they will be about the people who end up on the losing side. What moral champions.
 
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woolfe9998

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If 10% of people have "no opinion" about the end of democracy and fascist dictatorship, then they tacitly fucking support it, because having no opinion about something like that makes them just as culpable as the fascists doing the overthrowing of government.

John Stuart Mill put it this way:

“Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.”

It's a longer version of the "the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" quote from whom or whatever it gets attributed to.

So, you can parse and parcel out the 10% of Americans who will be good little fascists when the fascists take over government and stomp on democracy, but I sure as shit will not.

33% of Americans are salivating at the chance at overturning democracy so their Republican fascist Leader can round up internal enemies.
10% of Americans just don't give enough of a shit to care one way or the other that democracy is being targeted by fascist Republicans so that they can round up internal enemies.

So we'll just have to agree to disagree, because you think 10% of the population who doesn't give a shit won't just go along with it when it happens, whereas I'm going to go right on ahead and count them in on it, because they won't stand up against it when it matters, and will likely be in on it when it does.

I'll stand by my opinion that 43% of Americans are in favor of overturning elections when their fascist Leader doesn't win. 10% of them will just be more concerned about whether they're going to get credit for being on the "winning" side then they will be about the people who end up on the losing side. What moral champions.

Yes, it's terrible to be complacent when democracy is threatened. But 10% fewer who "support" means almost 25% fewer active supporters of it (43% v. 33%), be the support in word or in deed. Which is why I reject the notion of lumping them together. Because I'd rather have someone be complacent than to blather out conspiracy theories over social media or else do worse, like on 1/6.

Ideally in a democracy everyone gives a damn. But reality says otherwise.
 

rommelrommel

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They probably don’t even know enough to know that there is something to be concerned about.

That‘s a failing, and one that bad people can take advantage of, and when the bad people are getting close to having the numbers to do bad things it’s much more dangerous, but what good is it to blame people who just don’t know?
 

UNCjigga

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Meanwhile, in Michigan…


In a highly anticipated report released Wednesday, the Republican-led Michigan Senate Oversight Committee rebutted former President Donald Trump's voter fraud claims, debunking allegations of malfeasance in the state's election last fall and affirming that Joe Biden was victorious.

The report is the product of an eight-month inquiry and concludes there was no basis or evidence to support the Trump campaign's repeated claims that the election results failed to reflect the will of the voters.

Check this word salad: “As is often the case, the truth is not as attractive or as immediately desirable as the lies and the lies contain elements of truth," state Sen. Ed McBroom, the Republican chairman of the committee that investigated the election, said in a statement that accompanied the report.