Republicans doomed in 2016 and beyond, says conservative strategist

[Matt1970]

Going down this path you can say ACA also didn't effect the economy. If anything it shows that ACA = better economy.

Except any effects of the mandate would be in 2014's numbers.

 

[fskimospy]

Going down this path you can say ACA also didn't effect the economy. If anything it shows that ACA = better economy.

You could also say Olympics in London improved the US economy, or a million other things.

This is why his post was so silly. Actual economic analysis showed the sequester hurt the economy.

 

[Matt1970]

You could also say Olympics in London improved the US economy, or a million other things.

This is why his post was so silly. Actual economic analysis showed the sequester hurt the economy.

Oh ya, silly me, I mean GDP growth was only 50% higher in the sequestration year than it was the year before. That sure is some signs of catastrophic results.

 

[fskimospy]

Oh ya, silly me, I mean GDP growth was only 50% higher in the sequestration year than it was the year before. That sure is some signs of catastrophic results.

Do you care at all what actual economists determined?

 

[Moonbeam]

Oh ya, silly me, I mean GDP growth was only 50% higher in the sequestration year than it was the year before. That sure is some signs of catastrophic results.

tHAT WAS CAUSED BY BUTTERFLIES IN Africa.

 

[Matt1970]

Do you care at all what actual economists determined?

Do you care at all about a 50% increase in GDP growth from the year before?

 

[sunzt]

Do you care at all about a 50% increase in GDP growth from the year before?

Better yet, can you point to any evidence that attributes that increase to the sequestration?

 

[Matt1970]

Better yet, can you point to any evidence that attributes that increase to the sequestration?

Nice try, this is about the sequestration being catastrophic to the economy.

 

[Moonbeam]

Do you care at all what actual economists determined?

What is wrong with the synod of right-winged economic religion having Popes, Cardinals and Bishops pronouncing economic truth by divination? All you need to do is take notes and refer to them in any economic argument.

 

[sunzt]

Except any effects of the mandate would be in 2014's numbers.

oh yeah, cause ACA did nothing in 2012 or 2013 or the numbers we currently are seeing in 2014.

 

[sunzt]

Nice try, this is about the sequestration being catastrophic to the economy.

is that why brought up the topic of GDP in the first place? You seemed so proud of those stats you pointed out...

How about i make it easier for you. Can you point to any evidence that shows the sequestration did not have a negative effect on the economy or were those GDP numbers your "evidence"?

 

[Matt1970]

is that why brought up the topic of GDP in the first place? You seemed so proud of those stats you pointed out...

How about i make it easier for you. Can you point to any evidence that shows the sequestration did not have a negative effect on the economy or were those GDP numbers your "evidence"?

What other evidence do you need? We didn't go back into recession like a lot predicted. In fact we improved growth by over 50%.

 

[Zaap]

Nice try, this is about the sequestration...

LOL! I'm remembering back when libs were throwing a hissy like that bit of political theatre was the end of the world. Now, you can hardly find one that even remembers it.

It's amazing how politicians pull the strings of their willing puppets. They'll all dance and bend over and spread whenever the next big "sky is falling!" bit of theatre is staged too.

 

[compuwiz1]

LOL! I'm remembering back when libs were throwing a hissy like that bit of political theatre was the end of the world. Now, you can hardly find one that even remembers it.

It's amazing how politicians pull the strings of their willing puppets. They'll all dance and bend over and spread whenever the next big "sky is falling!" bit of theatre is staged too.

Pig fuckers!!!

 

[OverVolt]

Going down this path you can say ACA also didn't effect the economy. If anything it shows that ACA = better economy.

You guys are measuring GDP. Forcing people to buy shit they don't want is going to help increase GDP ya dummies. Disposable income is where its at.


"Retail sales slump in nearly every category"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/.../retail-sales-slump-in-nearly-every-category/

Cause that just screams awesome economy.

Oh look check the first comment. I don't even have to try.

 

[fskimospy]

Do you care at all about a 50% increase in GDP growth from the year before?

Do you care that according to the CBO that economic growth would have been about a point higher without sequestration?

You might think 1% if GDP doesn't matter, but we are talking about approximately $150 billion in economic output we flushed down the toilet every year due to them. It was also estimated at costing us somewhere around a million jobs economy wide.

The economy grew despite sequestration, but at a lower level and with fewer jobs. It's funny that the guys saying we should focus on the economy have a policy that damaged the economy as their crown jewel of the past few years.

 

[fskimospy]

You guys are measuring GDP. Forcing people to buy shit they don't want is going to help increase GDP ya dummies. Disposable income is where its at.


"Retail sales slump in nearly every category"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/.../retail-sales-slump-in-nearly-every-category/

Cause that just screams awesome economy.

Oh look check the first comment. I don't even have to try.

Why did you look two months ago instead of last month?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/11/14/october-retail-sales/18996467/

Retail sales increased 0.3% last month, roughly in line with the 0.2% jump expected by economists surveyed by Action Economics. Excluding volatile auto purchases, sales rose 0.3%.

The rise "was even stronger than it looks because the headline figure was depressed by a price-related drop in gasoline station sales,'' says economist Paul Diggle of Capital Economics.

I guess by your logic that does scream awesome economy?

 

[Matt1970]

Do you care that according to the CBO that economic growth would have been about a point higher without sequestration?

You might think 1% if GDP doesn't matter, but we are talking about approximately $150 billion in economic output we flushed down the toilet every year due to them. It was also estimated at costing us somewhere around a million jobs economy wide.

The economy grew despite sequestration, but at a lower level and with fewer jobs. It's funny that the guys saying we should focus on the economy have a policy that damaged the economy as their crown jewel of the past few years.

Oh well, as long as it's a CBO projection, those are never wrong. /s

Look pal, in 2013 the GDP grew at the fastest pace since maybe 2006. When you start using projections over the actual results, maybe it's time to re-think your theory.

 

[fskimospy]

Oh well, as long as it's a CBO projection, those are never wrong. /s

Look pal, in 2013 the GDP grew at the fastest pace since maybe 2006. When you start using projections over the actual results, maybe it's time to re-think your theory.

No, they are just doing actual economic analysis as opposed to what you're doing.

By your logic if I can just say the economy grew in 2013 because I moved to a new apartment that year.

Actual economists doing real research say it hurt the economy. Why is that so hard to accept?

 

[norseamd]

This is probably why Obama has come out with his amnesty program.

 

[Matt1970]

No, they are just doing actual economic analysis as opposed to what you're doing.

By your logic if I can just say the economy grew in 2013 because I moved to a new apartment that year.

Actual economists doing real research say it hurt the economy. Why is that so hard to accept?

I am not the one having a problem accepting things. The doom and gloom wasn't there, the catastrophe wasn't there, the double dip recession wasn't there. 2013 did a lot better than anyone predicted. Sorry you cannot accept that.

 

[Moonbeam]

Actual economists doing real research say it hurt the economy. Why is that so hard to accept?

Actual scientists doing real neuroscience have explained this. Why is it that you can't accept the fact that the door of understanding open to you is closed to him. You speak rationally in words full of logical sense and all he hears is RED ALERT!!!! All hands to battle stations, ego threat detected, ego threat detected.

My opinion is that for reason to survive the extinction threat posed by the CBD, attention must shift to psychology rather than logic. An alternative to reason can perhaps be found to penetrate the altered reality bubble CBDives live in.

I believe also that liberals suffer from a needless sense of hopelessness because they know deep down the terror of living in a world where reason has no meaning. I think it's part of liberal apathy and why so many don't vote.

I believe also, that if one does not face the fact that ones own door to understanding is impossible for CBDs one may wind up banging on it endlessly.

We need, I think, to turn our attention from emphasis on truth, to emphasis on our inability to perceive it. People do not want truth, do not know it, and do not know they do not want to know it. This is a matter of unconscious motivations and that is a subject for psychology. Motivations are unconscious programs we have been indoctrinated with. What humanity needs, I think, is deprogramming.

No criticism of you or anybody else intended.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Let me get this straight, it's bad to pick on zanejohnson or anarchist420 but it okay to speak badly about all conservatives.

 

[Moonbeam]

I am not the one having a problem accepting things. The doom and gloom wasn't there, the catastrophe wasn't there, the double dip recession wasn't there. 2013 did a lot better than anyone predicted. Sorry you cannot accept that.

Of course you speak of catastrophe and depression because your brain has been programmed to assess and respond to threat. Your intelligence has gone to building al altered reality in which none of those threats exist. You have created a reality that gives you the warm and fuzzies. You're big and strong, no chicken little. You have a wonderful and healthy ego. It will bounce when you take us off a cliff, a cliff, of course, that exists only in the minds of those who can reason.

Our Father who art in heaven, give us this day our butterflies and save us from angry African bees.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.