Republicans doomed in 2016 and beyond, says conservative strategist

[compuwiz1]

When Obama was elected Obama voters here were saying Dems would be in power 40 years - then Obama and Dems brought GOP back from the brink in massive way in 2010. After alienating the same 2010 voters and self destructing with an emasculated Romney campaign Obama and Dems have brought GOP back even more - all while GOP base is quite unhappy with them.

Obama is not a real Dem firster - he's a radical who sees everyone and everything as expendable. Dem party is the one scheduled for the ash heap. Obama is only getting started being a psycho. He' setting the ME on fire and sowing anarchy at home. Dems aren't even American anymore. If they suddenly got everything they wanted America would cease to exist in a few hours

I think the Democrats should be very aware and uneasy, when it comes to 2016. There is an up and coming breed of new conservatives / republicans. They're no longer old white guys, but are young, honorable people of all colors and nationality. They are probably our last hope for America as we know it. The mid-terms were very telling. People have tired of the Obama administration's crap.

 

[Meghan54]

I think the Democrats should be very aware and uneasy, when it comes to 2016. There is an up and coming breed of new conservatives / republicans. They're no longer old white guys, but are young, honorable people of all colors and nationality. They are probably our last hope for America as we know it. The mid-terms were very telling. People have tired of the Obama administration's crap.

Maybe the "new" Republicans will turn out to be different than the current gen. that cries about small government but instead cuts taxes, increases gov't spending and expands the size of gov't every time in power.

I don't think there's been a Republican in office that has done any differently since Nixon was in office.

 

[trenchfoot]

Uphill battle for the Repubs for sure. They will own the House and Senate for the next two years and with it comes the demand for results the Repubs have been hounding the Dems with since Obama took office. With no super-majority and with Obama now in the bullpen warming up his finicky veto pitch I really don't see how the Repubs are going to come up with the "results" they need to win elections in 2016, other than the "elections" they "win" in gerrymandered districts and other districts where they have managed to suppress and disenfranchise with "good" effect.

It seems to me the Repubs will stick with the same game plan they've had since Reagan: lower taxes (for the rich), deregulate (for the rich), re-write tax code (that favors the rich), *shrink* gov't (code for expanding gov't in ways that help only the rich) and deconstruct unions (of which will hurt the middle class and the poor), repeal federal assistance programs (of which will hurt the middle class and the poor), pass more restrictive Voter ID laws (of which will hurt the middle class and the poor) and refuse to pass legislation that is superior to the executive actions that Obama has taken to put into effect some aspects of the Immigration Reform legislation the bi-partisan Senate passed to the House.

If the Repub Congress follows up as described, it will simply make things even worse for them at the national level. But as far as I know, that's all that they've EVER been pushing for whenever they felt they had the "mandate" to get it done.

 

[Moonbeam]

I would hope that one man, cannot, change the Political world, or our nation.

It's ideas that form a nation, and laws that make a nation.

I think our 1776 ideas, are too old today.

From my perspective, they have not protected the individual, 225 years later.

Our Nation is Founded on an ideal (the individual,) not a Government.

-John

So what you are saying is that the idea of the individual and not Government is what is too old today.... Either that or you are unhappy that the government founded on the individual doesn't work despite the intentions. Anyway, how do you get I the person out of we the people? The government was founded on the principle of equality and the best kind of equality is the one where the difference between being extremely lucky in life and having very bad fortune is minimally different. In that way, everybody has the maximum security and the minimum risk of failure. They do this kind of analysis in Scandinavian countries and people are happy there. They like their taxes and socialism.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Nobody cares about bengazi anymore but u agree the future is not bright for republicans long term. Their supporting demographic is being squeezed out and that won't change.

the future is not bright for most so long as we're coerced with only two choices by the oligarchy

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I could have sworn something similar to this was said 2 years ago and the GOP was doomed in 2014. If I'm not mistaken Chris Ladd was one of those stating such.

Guess we'll have to see who is running in 2016 and who shows up to vote.

 

[fskimospy]

I could have sworn something similar to this was said 2 years ago and the GOP was doomed in 2014. If I'm not mistaken Chris Ladd was one of those stating such.

Guess we'll have to see who is running in 2016 and who shows up to vote.

I sincerely doubt anyone was saying that. The 2014 senate map was always viewed as highly favorable to the GOP.

Still, as Bowfinger said, doomed is definitely too strong a word, but they are in trouble. It kind of reminds me of how the House is set up now. Remember in 2012 when the Democrats got a million more votes for the House and still lost a majority of the seats? With the presidency it looks like on an even playing field where both candidates get an equal number of votes the democrats will easily win the presidency. You will need a republican to considerably outperform the democrat to have a good shot.

 

[fskimospy]

When Obama was elected Obama voters here were saying Dems would be in power 40 years - then Obama and Dems brought GOP back from the brink in massive way in 2010. After alienating the same 2010 voters and self destructing with an emasculated Romney campaign Obama and Dems have brought GOP back even more - all while GOP base is quite unhappy with them.

Obama is not a real Dem firster - he's a radical who sees everyone and everything as expendable. Dem party is the one scheduled for the ash heap. Obama is only getting started being a psycho. He' setting the ME on fire and sowing anarchy at home. Dems aren't even American anymore. If they suddenly got everything they wanted America would cease to exist in a few hours

I think someone here has only started being a psycho, but it's not Obama.

Seek professional medical help.

 

[Moonbeam]

I think someone here has only started being a psycho, but it's not Obama.

Seek professional medical help.

I feel sad to see a mind so warped. All that sputum and vituperation is just the reflection of his own self hate. In order for him to seek help he would first have to face the fact that he needs it. But those who have been damaged in life have been damaged by being made to believe that being damaged is a weakness. So seeking help for him, I think, would be like saying 'I'm worthless because I'm defective. The fear of being defective is the worst defect you can have. It's one of the best too, because it's based on nothing but the belief in things that are a lie. His only problem is that the fear of being defective makes one act defective. It doesn't make one actually defective.

 

[sportage]

Nixon killed the republicans.
So much that they needed to hire an actor, and a bad actor at that, for their leader.
And it's all been acting ever since.
Remember Ebola?
And the Oscar goes to......

 

[Greenman]

"You're going to lose so don't bother trying." A message the liberals have been using for years.

 

[Jhhnn]

"You're going to lose so don't bother trying." A message the liberals have been using for years.

Gawd. "They're just as Bad!" promotes apathy & it's been the message of the Right for some while. Strict voter ID accomplishes the same goal, as well. Too much trouble to jump through all those hoops to vote, so just forget it, right?

The zealots in their base will never forget it, but they want everybody else to do so.

As we've seen many times, high turnout favors Dems, so Repubs attempt to thwart that whenever possible.

I hope I live to see the day that turnout in Texas is 80%- Repubs would be crushed, & they know it.

 

[Greenman]

Gawd. "They're just as Bad!" promotes apathy & it's been the message of the Right for some while. Strict voter ID accomplishes the same goal, as well. Too much trouble to jump through all those hoops to vote, so just forget it, right?

The zealots in their base will never forget it, but they want everybody else to do so.

As we've seen many times, high turnout favors Dems, so Repubs attempt to thwart that whenever possible.

I hope I live to see the day that turnout in Texas is 80%- Repubs would be crushed, & they know it.

I hear you. Having to reach in your pocket for the ID that every US citizen has is an enormous hassle. We should be able to vote right from or smart phones.

 

[brycejones]

I hear you. Having to reach in your pocket for the ID that every US citizen has is an enormous hassle. We should be able to vote right from or smart phones.

Holy crap I had no idea we had a national ID given to every citizen....

 

[compuwiz1]

Holy crap I had no idea we had a national ID given to every citizen....

You guys are ridiculous. Every adult has had to produce an ID for something in their life, whether it's for banking, getting on an airplane, filling a prescription....or applying for welfare/food stamps. Arguing against ID for voting and blaming it on Republicans trying to suppress voters is just fucking lame. Yet....it's just another dumb liberal tactic, which just doesn't pass the test. Whether one is a republican or a democrat, every fucking person who votes should show their eligibility to vote and.....I'll even take it further. How about be a citizen? No illegals and no dead people voting, period. Hate me for it, but I demand that we stop trying to appease those who want to cheat in the electoral process. To those I say, please fuck off.....permanently!

Someone who doesn't have their shit together enough to obtain an ID, can't figure out how, someone that disorganized in life, IS a low information voter. Democrats love them, for without them we would never have had an Obama as president. So instead of paying attention to the Chicago community organizer's content of character, lack of records because he had them sealed, people were hell bent on electing the first black president. That was their focus. I have no problem with having a black president, but vet the man. That didn't happen and shame on us for that!

 

[Victorian Gray]

You guys are ridiculous. Every adult has had to produce an ID for something in their life, whether it's for banking, getting on an airplane, filling a prescription....or applying for welfare/food stamps. Arguing against ID for voting and blaming it on Republicans trying to suppress voters is just fucking lame. Yet....it's just another dumb liberal tactic, which just doesn't pass the test. Whether one is a republican or a democrat, every fucking person who votes should show their eligibility to vote and.....I'll even take it further. How about be a citizen? No illegals and no dead people voting, period. Hate me for it, but I demand that we stop trying to appease those who want to cheat in the electoral process. To those I say, please fuck off.....permanently!

I don't understand why this issue is such a big deal in the US.

Voting should be easy.

In Canada you can vote with 2 of these (one has to have your present address on it) if you don't have a govt. issued photo id like a drivers license or passport. I've highlighted some of the more interesting ones:
Identity Cards

• Health Card
• Certificate of Canadian Citizenship (Citizenship Card)
• Birth Certificate
• Certificate of Indian Status (Status Card)
• Social Insurance Number Card
• Old Age Security Card
• Student ID Card
• Provincial/Territorial Identification Card
• Liquor Identification Card
• Hospital/Medical Clinic Card
• Credit/Debit Card
• Employee Card
• Public Transportation Card
• Library Card
• Canadian Forces Identity Card
• Veterans Affairs Canada Health Card
• Canadian Blood Services/Héma-Québec Card
• CNIB ID Card
• Firearm Possession and Acquisition Licence or Possession Only Licence
• Fishing, Trapping or Hunting Licence
• Outdoors or Wildlife Card/Licence
• Hospital bracelet worn by residents of long-term care facilities
• Parolee Identification Card

Original documents
(with name and address)

• Utility Bill (telephone, TV, public utilities commission, hydro, gas or water)
• Bank/Credit Card Statement
• Vehicle Ownership/Insurance
• Correspondence issued by a school, college or university
• Statement of Government Benefits (employment insurance, old age security, social assistance, disability support or child tax benefit)
• Attestation of Residence issued by the responsible authority of a First Nations band or reserve
• Government Cheque or Cheque Stub
• Pension Plan Statement of Benefits, Contributions or Participation
• Residential Lease/Mortgage Statement
• Income/Property Tax Assessment Notice
• Insurance Policy
• Letter from a public curator, public guardian or public trustee
• One of the following, issued by the responsible authority of a shelter, soup kitchen, student/senior residence, or long-term care facility: Attestation of Residence, Letter of Stay, Admission Form or Statement of Benefits

http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=ids&document=index&lang=e

 

[compuwiz1]

It's an issue because a certain party wants to make it one. Simple things you posted will work. Why is that so hard? When everyone plays by the same rules it is fair and guarantees integrity.

 

[OverVolt]

Its just a blog, I'm not buying it. Its wishful thinking on part of the democrats.

I have friends and family in Virginia and they all regret voting democrat. I don't know why democrats assume states can only defect to blue and not red. It could easily go the other way and most people I know in person are sick of the democrats shit, even hardcore democrats.

If anything the democrats new voting base is loosers who post on the internet alot, which is basically nobody who actually goes out to vote.

 

[OverVolt]

Gawd. "They're just as Bad!" promotes apathy & it's been the message of the Right for some while. Strict voter ID accomplishes the same goal, as well. Too much trouble to jump through all those hoops to vote, so just forget it, right?

The zealots in their base will never forget it, but they want everybody else to do so.

As we've seen many times, high turnout favors Dems, so Repubs attempt to thwart that whenever possible.

I hope I live to see the day that turnout in Texas is 80%- Repubs would be crushed, & they know it.

I don't agree. There are 80 million millenials and they are going to lean repub. My GF "panic voted" for Obama because she didn't want Mitt Romney to win. Obama continued to be himself and renege on all of his promises, much regret. I'm sure its the same for most new voter millenials. For the young especially nothing is improved, but lots of hype. Welcome to politics. Democrats used to have the young college students in their pocket but not anymore IMO.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014...wing-voters-skewing-Republican/7921414615723/

If anybody is complacent its democrats who think they'll have 270 electoral votes "without trying"

 

[Conscript]

2 more years for the rest of the ACA to kick in, and the republicans can put a chimp up for election and still win. The country is up in arms already and we've only experienced the tip so far...

 

[Victorian Gray]

It's an issue because a certain party wants to make it one. Simple things you posted will work. Why is that so hard? When everyone plays by the same rules it is fair and guarantees integrity.

Am I wrong in my understanding that it's the GOP that supports a rather strict criteria of specific government issued id needed to vote? That was the point of my posting the list of what you can use to vote in Canada, It's wide enough to include things like your utility bill, bus pass or library card. You don't actually need *any* government id (either federal or provincial) in order to vote. Somehow I doubt that the party you seem to lean toward would be happy with that list as acceptable id.

Mind you, I'm not convinced the other party would be either. <shrug>

As I said, I believe that voting should be easy. I consider myself lucky to live somewhere where, for the most part, it is. Even the homeless can vote pretty easily with that list of acceptable id. And yes, I believe that's a good thing.

 

[compuwiz1]

Am I wrong in my understanding that it's the GOP that supports a rather strict criteria of specific government issued id needed to vote? That was the point of my posting the list of what you can use to vote in Canada, It's wide enough to include things like your utility bill, bus pass or library card. You don't actually need *any* government id (either federal or provincial) in order to vote. Somehow I doubt that the party you seem to lean toward would be happy with that list as acceptable id.

Mind you, I'm not convinced the other party would be either. <shrug>

As I said, I believe that voting should be easy. I consider myself lucky to live somewhere where, for the most part, it is. Even the homeless can vote pretty easily with that list of acceptable id. And yes, I believe that's a good thing.

Again, I'm fine with your list. Some form of ID is acceptable. I think we're on the same page here. My point was that I don't get the revolt where people are required to identify themselves to vote. Those who don't want this, who get defensive, are usually those who have a reason for it.......they don't want any controls and integrity in the electoral system.
So, we must ask ourselves why?

 

[kage69]

I think the Democrats should be very aware and uneasy, when it comes to 2016. There is an up and coming breed of new conservatives / republicans. They're no longer old white guys, but are young, honorable people of all colors and nationality. They are probably our last hope for America as we know it. The mid-terms were very telling. People have tired of the Obama administration's crap.

Right. Which is why voter turn was the lowest since 1942? Vote out all incumbents! Yeah! And then what, 92% of them were re-elected?

Keep trying to paint lipstick on that pig and pretend things are just fine, I mean you guys have such a stellar history with being right I'm sure it'll all work out! Despite, you know, everything that points to the contrary.

 

[brycejones]

It's an issue because a certain party wants to make it one. Simple things you posted will work. Why is that so hard? When everyone plays by the same rules it is fair and guarantees integrity.

Ahh....but why hasn't the party pushing these laws made it so simple?

 

[fskimospy]

I don't agree. There are 80 million millenials and they are going to lean repub. My GF "panic voted" for Obama because she didn't want Mitt Romney to win. Obama continued to be himself and renege on all of his promises, much regret. I'm sure its the same for most new voter millenials. For the young especially nothing is improved, but lots of hype. Welcome to politics. Democrats used to have the young college students in their pocket but not anymore IMO.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014...wing-voters-skewing-Republican/7921414615723/

If anybody is complacent its democrats who think they'll have 270 electoral votes "without trying"

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it's better to look at how millennials ACTUALLY voted.

http://www.cnn.com/election/2014/results/exit-polls

Instead of leaning GOP they went for democrats by 11 points. This is also during a midterm election year so we should expect the disparity to be larger towards the democrats in 2016.

This isn't that surprising. Harvard had an outlier poll that turned out to be wrong, as outlier polls usually are. Millenials continue to skew heavily towards the democrats.