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Moonbeam

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Let me get this straight, it's bad to pick on zanejohnson or anarchist420 but it okay to speak badly about all conservatives.

Let's assume you are asking this as a question rather than giving your opinion as fact. This is the situation:

Imagine that we hated ourselves and did not know it. That would imply that our hate exists in our feelings, ones we are not conscious of, ones that we suppress and deny. And we have also been programmed to hate what is evil and bad. So what we feel is that we are evil.

Now I come along and I tell you what you feel. Do you hear that I am telling you that you feel you are evil? No, what you hear is that I am calling you evil. Someone has come along and pointed to the feelings you suppress. Somebody is trying to make you feel evil. This is the root of projection, the deflection of your self-hate onto me. I am the one who says you are evil, you deny what you unconsciously feel. You deflect the message you are telling yourself unconsciously on to me. I become the one who is calling you evil.

But the fact is that what I am really pointing our is your condition. And I point it out so that by being conscious of how you are is a way to escape it. Denial fails because you carry with you wherever you go your own self hate.

So:

You have a brain defect. Your brain defect is your refusal to accept that you are defective. Your refusal to accept that you are defective is your defect. You have no real defect. You only believe that you do and that belief makes you defective.

People imagine that truth is out there, in philosophies written in the sky, but the real truth for all of us is what we really feel. What we really feel is that we are worthless and it is a lie. You can't know it's a lie if you don't even know that you feel it. I am willing to do what amounts for you as telling you your an asshole, because it can save you from endlessly feeling that way. I know you can be free. You have only been programmed to believe in lies.

I wish the truth weren't painful but the lies were implanted by torture and it cause pain to awaken. To feel what you feel is to remember and relive the pain. I am so sorry.
 

Moonbeam

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God grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

God always grants that when "YOU" get out of the way. The you is ego and ego is what survived. It will not end itself because it is the will to survive. The ego can be decreased by humility and if sufficient humility is present, it can give Grace an opening. This can be said in different ways but you mentioned God.
 

Londo_Jowo

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You know moonbeam, I realized over the past year or so you have much in common with racial bigots, you too are a bigot, one that's bigoted against those who have a different political affiliation/ideology than you. Also you have not faced your self hate, your have just externalized it against those same people you are bigoted against.
 

Matt1970

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Poor Moonbeam. Show us on the doll where the bad Conservative touched you.

Where+did+he+touch+you+show+us+on+_354746d605a9765a1a7cf91692857597.jpg
 

Moonbeam

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You know moonbeam, I realized over the past year or so you have much in common with racial bigots, you too are a bigot, one that's bigoted against those who have a different political affiliation/ideology than you. Also you have not faced your self hate, your have just externalized it against those same people you are bigoted against.

I just told you that any truth I tell you about yourself will cause you to see yourself in me and here you are telling me that I am like you. And you are in such a delusional state that you do it with a straight face. This is what you have no choice but to be.

There once was a mighty wrestler who died in a wrestling match not knowing that could happen to him. Words from a Sufi teaching published for some reason.
 

sunzt

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What other evidence do you need? We didn't go back into recession like a lot predicted. In fact we improved growth by over 50%.

ROFL!! ARE YOU kidding me??


Better yet, can you point to any evidence that attributes that increase to the sequestration?

Nice try, this is about the sequestration being catastrophic to the economy.

I know you're dense, but come on even you can't be that obtuse to know you're just going in circles and avoiding the question.

The GDP increase is an outcome. Since you used that outcome as evidence of sequestration having no negative impact on the economy, it is UP TO YOU to provide evidence that the sequestration had no negative effect on the GDP (your hypothesis).
 
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Moonbeam

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I don't see you anywhere in me, you're a hateful/hurtful bigot....period.

Your so called science fits right in with what's being discussed in this thread.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2410763

Yes Sir. You are full of hate and hurt and it's made you a bigot, but none of it is real. You are that way only because you believe you are worthless. And I hate your worthless ass so much I'm telling you there's nothing wrong with you.
 

Moonbeam

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ROFL!! ARE YOU kidding me??




I know you're dense, but come on even you can't be that obtuse to know you're just going in circles and avoiding the question.

The GDP increase is an outcome. Since you used that outcome as evidence of sequestration having no negative impact on the economy, it is UP TO YOU to provide evidence that the sequestration had not negative effect on the GDP (your hypothesis).

He will have no trouble answering your question because he has a brain defect that makes him gifted at pulling rationalizations by the butt load right out of his ass. You put in a penny and turn the crank and out comes a copper in a fancy new shape.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Yes Sir. You are full of hate and hurt and it's made you a bigot, but none of it is real. You are that way only because you believe you are worthless. And I hate your worthless ass so much I'm telling you there's nothing wrong with you.

Nope, I have no hate for anyone...period. You on the other hand display your hate for others every day in here.
 

Matt1970

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ROFL!! ARE YOU kidding me??




I know you're dense, but come on even you can't be that obtuse to know you're just going in circles and avoiding the question.

The GDP increase is an outcome. Since you used that outcome as evidence of sequestration having no negative impact on the economy, it is UP TO YOU to provide evidence that the sequestration had no negative effect on the GDP (your hypothesis).

Nope, like I said, all I needed to do was prove the sequestration wasn't the catastrophe, double dip recession people claimed it was going to be. I did that. Insulting me because you don't like the outcome won't change anything.
 

Moonbeam

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Nope, I have no hate for anyone...period. You on the other hand display your hate for others every day in here.

That hurts my feelings. Are you absolutely certain you don't think I hate you because of projection? No chance of it at all. Don't you ever think to yourself, just my luck, or why does this always happen to me. Don't you ever notice how you always pick the wrong line in the grocery store, the one with the coupon lady?

Well if you're sure, ok, but I hope you're really right. Hating yourself and not knowing it can really mess up your life. It keeps you from seeing things that would otherwise be so obvious.
 

fskimospy

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I am not the one having a problem accepting things. The doom and gloom wasn't there, the catastrophe wasn't there, the double dip recession wasn't there. 2013 did a lot better than anyone predicted. Sorry you cannot accept that.

You seriously can't be this dumb. That's not how economics works.

If you are okay with pretending that economics doesn't exist because it helps you avoid uncomfortable thoughts that's ok. The idea that you would claim the sequester didn't negatively affect the economy because it grew is ridiculous and you know it.

What's funny is that you blithely dismiss the work of actual economists because you looked at yearly GDP numbers. The CBO examines all aspects of the economy including the impact of fiscal policy, that way you can isolate the effects of individual policies from the overall picture. I'm sure you understand this, you're just trying to avoid accepting authoritative analysis that is ideologically uncomfortable to you.

The bubble must be preserved at all costs I guess.
 

Matt1970

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You seriously can't be this dumb. That's not how economics works.

If you are okay with pretending that economics doesn't exist because it helps you avoid uncomfortable thoughts that's ok. The idea that you would claim the sequester didn't negatively affect the economy because it grew is ridiculous and you know it.

What's funny is that you blithely dismiss the work of actual economists because you looked at yearly GDP numbers. The CBO examines all aspects of the economy including the impact of fiscal policy, that way you can isolate the effects of individual policies from the overall picture. I'm sure you understand this, you're just trying to avoid accepting authoritative analysis that is ideologically uncomfortable to you.

The bubble must be preserved at all costs I guess.
Look, 2013 was the best year we has since 2006 or maybe even longer. We didn't have a double dip recession and the economy wasn't left in shambles like many on the left predicted. If you want to claim some sort of victory for lefties in the sequestration causing a small negative effect on the economy, have at it. But there is a huge difference between that and the scare tactics they were using at the time. The sequestration seemed like the end of the world to them. What actually happened proved them wrong. I know better than to keep doing this with you.
 

fskimospy

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Look, 2013 was the best year we has since 2006 or maybe even longer. We didn't have a double dip recession and the economy wasn't left in shambles like many on the left predicted. If you want to claim some sort of victory for lefties in the sequestration causing a small negative effect on the economy, have at it. But there is a huge difference between that and the scare tactics they were using at the time. The sequestration seemed like the end of the world to them. What actually happened proved them wrong. I know better than to keep doing this with you.

First, you're putting words in people's mouths. Second, 1% of GDP is a shitload of damage.

Second, if your argument is "it hurt the economy but not as badly as some people thought it might" well, okay.
 

Moonbeam

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First, you're putting words in people's mouths. Second, 1% of GDP is a shitload of damage.

Second, if your argument is "it hurt the economy but not as badly as some people thought it might" well, okay.

Let that be a lesson to those who run around saying the sky is falling at a CBD convention. If you poke a conservative in the amygdala you'll never hear the end of it. These are the folk who brought us the concept of Armageddon. If Devils weren't flying out of our butts everything was ok.
 
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